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Re: All anti cheat programs can be defeated [message #145592] Fri, 25 March 2005 03:46 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Its almost 4am and I'm tierd, so forgive my coyness.

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It is only a question of how much work is necessary.


Indeed...with enough work, you could make a nuclear weapon in your garage.

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For example if someone either disassembles or gets the source to the device drivers for both their graphics card and mouse.
It would be possible to link the mouse click to a color change on a certain pixel of the graphics card.

They already have those, they are called click-bots, or color-aimbots. They work so well that nobody actually uses them. Try one out yourself if you want to see how crappy they work and how little advantage they are.

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Hence you have a basic click bot.

Wow you conceived of that all by yourself, and even named it the same name it was called 3 years ago :rolleyes:

gibberish

If the individual never released the source, binary or information about the existence of this hack it is extremely unlikely that any game or anti cheat program could detect it.

You are forgetting the mentality of cheaters. Despite what many people think, their goal is not to win. If this was really their goal they would use subtle cheats, just enough to give them an edge. But no, they would rather run around killing everyone, and getting their rocks off everytime someone says "wtf" or yells at them. Their main goal is to piss people off, and they always openly use and brag about their cheats, including how they work.

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If you want to go even more extreme, do it with hardware instead. Have a camera pointed at your monitor and have a second PC hard wired to the mouse, there is no possibility of detecting it unless the person setting it up is incompetent enough to not build in a "miss factor".


What about the SneakerCheat? It's where you run to the other persons house, and kick them in the balls...they take their hands off of their mouse for at least 5 mins, giving you time to run back home and headshot them while they are standing still. OMG SNEAKERCHEAT BYPASSES RENGUARD OMG ONG OMG RG SUX EVERYONE AND THEIR DOGGS ARE CHEATING! RENEGADE IS DOOOOOOMMEEED.

gibberish

So put the issue to bed and say that there are currently no known hacks but it is possible someone has compromised RG.


There are actually known hacks for RG (BHS members know how it can be done), but so far nobody has been found using that method or any reports of it. Also, this particular method will be shut down with RG 1.04

gibberish

PS I know this is far fetched but my point is that some people do go to extreme lengths. And there is always the possibility someone has missed something simple.


Fortunately Renegade is a small enough community that we havn't really had to battle any "uber hackers" that are wizards at assembly language and whatnot. Even if they tried, BHS has several members with such skills, and we would easily counter any cheat that was concocted. So even IF an RG exploit is discovered, we will immediately stop it. Thats pretty much as safe as you can get.

[Updated on: Sun, 27 March 2005 14:43]

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