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Mon, 20 December 2004 15:52

buxton4
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The Ramjet is good at EVERYTHING! Same with the stupid 500 credit sniper too.

So is Mobius.

Frankly, what you and everyone else seem to be whining about with these sniper's is that they can in fact... shoot long distances. We're all agreed that the points given per sniper bullet are way to high. So that should be changed for the sake of balance. However, when it comes to the damage the Ramjet and the basic sniper rifle do against vehicles, all of you use your brains and stop thinking on an all-or-none basis.

What most of you seem to be forgetting is that Renegade is based off of (not a replica, as far as I know) of an RTS (real time strategy game) called Command and Conquer Tiberian Dawn. ADM is absolutely right. Stop whining about why there is a big bad sniper owning you and select a unit or a vehicle that can deal with it. If you don't have a barracks, Hand of Nod, war factory, or airstrip because your team sucks the wang chung, your arguements are all but invalid. Believe it or not, the sniper's damage and capabilities are easily matched by many units. What people seem to forget is that regardless of how powerful the sniper is, he still has to HIT you in order to do damage. In which time, you can quite easily unload as many rounds necessary from one of the semi/automatic weapons necessary to take him out.

But even more importantly, if there are an abunance of snipers on the field, and you still have all your buildings, get a damn tank and ignore them. It is the faulty strategy on the sniper's team that will result in the ownage of their base by YOUR tanks. If you don't have the necessary buildings, you've already fucked up and those snipers have every right to kick your ass.

What I find entertaining is how much you nay-sayers are trying to balance the game to be exactly like the original Command and Conquer. All the while forgetting that just about everything you're striving for would result in a game far more unbalanced then you claim it to already be. Last time I checked, TD starred Orcas which didn't have machine guns. That's fine. But then again, the only infantry that could hit it were rocket soldiers, certainly not any vehicles that I can recall off hand. So what does that mean? When you lose the Hand of Nod, you lose your ability to destory Orcas? Or what about APCs? Couldn't a set of 5 or so GDI or Nod soldiers wipe out an APC in under 30 seconds? Doesn't that kind of firepower render base defences all but obsolete? The list goes on and on.

Stop whining about the damage dealt by the Ramjets because they don't correspond with the original Command and Conquer (because, after all, there were no Ramjets in TD, or Repair guns, or specialized characters outside the commando, or PICs, or Railguns, or Stealth Blackhands, etc) and deal with the problem strategically. The game has lasted for an approximate time of 3 years on these settings, and it has been fine.

Great sense Java, you shot down both arguements and put forward your own argument, with just one post.

OT: any idea when fudonline will be back up I need to re download arnie's stirngs after installing CP1

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		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Aircraftkiller on Sun, 12 December 2004 01:40
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Aurora on Sun, 12 December 2004 01:43
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Blazer on Sun, 12 December 2004 01:45
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Sir Kane on Sun, 12 December 2004 01:49
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: m1a1_abrams on Sun, 12 December 2004 01:59
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: JPNOD on Sun, 12 December 2004 02:57
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Blazer on Sun, 12 December 2004 04:10
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Spoony_old on Sun, 12 December 2004 06:31
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: emperorz0 on Sun, 12 December 2004 07:07
		Re: Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: sniper12345 on Sun, 12 December 2004 07:28
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Spoony_old on Sun, 12 December 2004 08:03
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Jecht on Sun, 12 December 2004 08:55
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Renx on Sun, 12 December 2004 09:21
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: warranto on Sun, 12 December 2004 09:46
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Creed3020 on Sun, 12 December 2004 10:47
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Majiin Vegeta on Sun, 12 December 2004 10:52
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: WNxCABAL on Sun, 12 December 2004 10:54
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: IceSword7 on Sun, 12 December 2004 10:57
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Falconxl on Sun, 12 December 2004 11:31
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Chronojam on Sun, 12 December 2004 13:42
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: YSLMuffins on Sun, 12 December 2004 14:40
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Spoony_old on Sun, 12 December 2004 15:19
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Spoony_old on Sun, 12 December 2004 15:20
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Pendullum on Sun, 12 December 2004 16:16
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: flyingfox on Sun, 12 December 2004 19:05
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: msgtpain on Sun, 12 December 2004 20:32
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Aircraftkiller on Sun, 12 December 2004 21:28
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Javaxcx on Sun, 12 December 2004 21:33
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Titan1x77 on Sun, 12 December 2004 21:39
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Aircraftkiller on Sun, 12 December 2004 21:50
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Titan1x77 on Mon, 13 December 2004 01:36
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Sanada78 on Mon, 13 December 2004 05:41
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Chronojam on Mon, 13 December 2004 06:31
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Spoony_old on Mon, 13 December 2004 11:18
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: flyingfox on Mon, 13 December 2004 11:19
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Jecht on Mon, 13 December 2004 11:40
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Aircraftkiller on Mon, 13 December 2004 11:49
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Spoony_old on Mon, 13 December 2004 14:27
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: GetSm0keD on Mon, 13 December 2004 15:01
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Spoony_old on Mon, 13 December 2004 15:10
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Naamloos on Mon, 13 December 2004 15:16
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		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Naamloos on Mon, 13 December 2004 15:19
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: smwScott on Mon, 13 December 2004 16:18
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: flyingfox on Mon, 13 December 2004 16:40
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Aircraftkiller on Mon, 13 December 2004 16:47
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: smwScott on Mon, 13 December 2004 18:02
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Homey on Mon, 13 December 2004 18:19
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Spoony_old on Mon, 13 December 2004 18:57
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: smwScott on Mon, 13 December 2004 19:37
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Deathgod on Mon, 13 December 2004 20:39
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: addseale2 on Fri, 17 December 2004 03:47
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Renx on Fri, 17 December 2004 05:01
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: addseale2 on Fri, 17 December 2004 11:07
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Jecht on Sat, 18 December 2004 07:49
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Spoony_old on Sat, 18 December 2004 09:01
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Aircraftkiller on Sat, 18 December 2004 15:53
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: smwScott on Sat, 18 December 2004 16:44
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Spoony_old on Sat, 18 December 2004 17:11
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		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Jecht on Sat, 18 December 2004 18:46
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Spoony_old on Sun, 19 December 2004 06:04
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: ADM on Sun, 19 December 2004 06:35
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Spoony_old on Sun, 19 December 2004 07:32
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Jecht on Sun, 19 December 2004 08:22
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: ADM on Sun, 19 December 2004 08:42
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Spoony_old on Sun, 19 December 2004 10:29
		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: ADM on Sun, 19 December 2004 11:03
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		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: Falconxl on Sun, 19 December 2004 13:09
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		Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word By: buxton4 on Mon, 20 December 2004 12:16
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