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RENGUARD fix it or drop it [message #116260]

Thu, 23 September 2004 14:12

Blazer
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Craploads of crashes nowadays are caused by "pop-under" firewall messages. Most firewalls out there are unable to minimize the game when they ask the "Should this program be allowed to access the Internet" question, so the message pops in the background, and often for some reason it's also not possible to alt-tab, Windows key, alt-enter etc. back to Windows. So unless you know the keyboard combinations to answer to the firewall question, you'll have to reset.

This is a very good point. Renegade doesn't like to alt-tab. In fact I can alt-tab it several times and definitely get a crash or exit to desktop out of it. RenGuard replaces game.exe, so if you have any firewall software that alerts you when an exe is replaced (zone alarm, tiny firewall, etc), it will definitely pop up/under to notify of game.exe being replaced, at which point Renegade is very prone to lock up or exit to desktop.

Theres not much we can do about this, since RenGuard must replace game.exe, and theres nothing we can do about Renegades instability when it loses focus. My only suggestions are:

1. If you get a solid lockup, it may be your firewall software stealing "focus" (popunder)...basically there is an alert box that popped up, but its "under" Renegade. Try hitting alt-tab, or your windows key, or if a keyboard with no windows key, ctrl-escape.

2. Try running renegade temporarily in windowed mode, so that your firewall alert message can popup and you can tell it to accept the change.

Hope this helps...

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		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: Onierian on Sun, 19 September 2004 06:26
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: cowmisfit on Sun, 19 September 2004 06:29
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: glyde51 on Sun, 19 September 2004 06:45
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: mac on Sun, 19 September 2004 06:56
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: glyde51 on Sun, 19 September 2004 07:03
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: Homey on Sun, 19 September 2004 07:18
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: MilkyLep on Sun, 19 September 2004 07:25
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: Nightma12 on Sun, 19 September 2004 08:40
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: suntar on Wed, 22 September 2004 15:16
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: mac on Wed, 22 September 2004 15:33
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: DaMax on Wed, 22 September 2004 15:36
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: suntar on Wed, 22 September 2004 16:16
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: Crimson on Wed, 22 September 2004 21:56
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: zunnie on Thu, 23 September 2004 05:00
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: suntar on Thu, 23 September 2004 06:22
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: Scythar on Thu, 23 September 2004 07:33
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: JPNOD on Thu, 23 September 2004 12:09
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: Blazer on Thu, 23 September 2004 14:12
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: suntar on Thu, 23 September 2004 15:00
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: Onierian on Sat, 25 September 2004 14:18
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: WNxCABAL on Sat, 25 September 2004 15:43
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: kurt421 on Sat, 25 September 2004 15:55
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: suntar on Sun, 26 September 2004 19:51
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: Onierian on Mon, 27 September 2004 06:44
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: Incognito on Mon, 27 September 2004 08:45
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: Crimson on Mon, 27 September 2004 10:55
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: Incognito on Mon, 27 September 2004 10:57
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: OnfireUK on Mon, 27 September 2004 11:07
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: Incognito on Mon, 27 September 2004 11:09
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: suntar on Mon, 27 September 2004 19:14
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: Onierian on Tue, 28 September 2004 08:25
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: GSAELiTe on Tue, 23 November 2004 16:01
		RENGUARD fix it or drop it By: Dave Mason on Tue, 23 November 2004 16:14

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