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How Bush will steal the 2004 Election... [message #106134]

Wed, 04 August 2004 16:25

Javaxcx
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1. Where has the UN come out and Said the Iraq war was illegal.

To my knowledge, the UN has never come out front and said "The US-led war in Iraq is illegal". That does NOT make the act legal. No one sane person in this world would say that it is legal because no one has said anything about it. That's like saying "it's only illegal if you're caught".

I have, repreatedly mind you, proven that this war is illegal in terms of the Charter and resolutions. You, as usual, have skipped over all that information because you're too damn arrogant to see facts for what they are.

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2. A result of the war was an incentive for going to war.

Do you even know what "incentive" means?

in·cen·tive
n.
Something, such as the fear of punishment or the expectation of reward, that induces action or motivates effort.

That sentence is flawed. And you're still wrong.

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Disarming Iraq is also a result. Liberating the Iraqi people, disarming Saddam, and getting rid of Saddam are all reasons and results.

They are all results. Only the WMD is a reason. This was proven already. Stop arguing in a circle.

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3. The UN was not dealing with it.

Don't you understand? Just because you believe the UN is not dealing with it, (even though the UNMOVIC is dealing with the situation of disarmiment) that does NOT give the United States the right to invade and institute an illegal coup d'etat.

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The only responsible thing was to get rid of Saddam. Now Saddam is no longer and it will be better because of it.

No one has doubted this. Stop bringing it up. It's still not justification for breaking international law.

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4. You still cannot prove WMD do not exist, so stop making the claim.

You can't prove they DO exist. Stop pertaining to that claim.

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5. They did not come to a conclusion. They never said it was illegal, they never said it was legal. We went with what we wanted to do. They haven't said anything so it is still legal.

"Ok guys! We've just robbed a bank and they don't know we did it! It's still legal because they haven't said 'JAVIX U CANAE ROB BANQ ITZ ELEGAL.'"

lol, that logic is so messed up, I don't even need to comment on it.

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6. America can do what it wants when it involves the safety of its peoples. As I have said before We did not need a permission slip to defend ourselves.

As the law says, you cannot attack someone pre-emptively. You can't do it here in Canada, and you can't do it with the United Nations. It's a stupid law, I agree, but it is still the LAW.

If I assault someone who threatens my family when he has not touched me at all, "I" get charged. And I would fully support that charge. I know I did the right thing, and I would fully accept the responsability for breaking the law to do it. I would also do it again. It is STILL illegal, though.

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7. Vigilante justice is not illegal.

Folks, THIS is the voice of your future American voter. Look upon it, and be ashamed.

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If you defend yourself that is vigilante Justice.

If you pre-emptively defend yourself, that is vigilante justice, and it is illegal. The law says (at least in Canada) you may defend yourself if you are assualted first.

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If you stop a robbery that is vigilante justice.

If the robbers have not touched you, then you are in the wrong as much as they are according to the law.

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If you stop somebody like Saddam from doing the things he is doing you re not doing anything illegal.

You're not the police. It's still illegal. Whoops!

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8. Those pictures were of government buildings. I have seen plenty of pictures from Iraq. I have 3 Cd's with over 5000 pictures and 40 something videos taken by soldiers inside of Iraq.

I'm going to pertain to the photos that Michael Moore got for F911 (which, unless you can prove otherwise, are genuine) that show Iraqi civilians crushed, burned, and homeless.

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9. A consensus is just a general agreement. No where in that link you provided says the people of Germany democratically elected Hitler. He was put into the position by the administration of that time. As would an American Vice-President of something happens to the President.

So he was elected into office by the representitive administrative government at the time. But he was still elected. That sounds democratic to me.

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10. We have the right to bring freedom and democracy to the rest of the world.

Any American patriots, I suggest you take a look at what your youth believe they can do with the world. Please show me in your constitution where it says you can do that.

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We have the right to express our opinions.

You have the right only to do that in America. You don't have that right in places that don't allow that freedom.

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We have the right to take action.

Only if the Security Council says you can. Remember, you signed the contract.

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We have the right to defend people from those who oppress them.

No, you do not. Show me where it says you are allowed to in your constitution.

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11.Who is Kirby and what does he do?

Kirby is a veteran from the Gulf War.

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12. Bush is in no way a terrorist. Did you forget who the real terrorists are?

No one has forgotten who the real terrorists are. They are just being informed of another one. "The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons." THAT is terrorism. What Bush did was unlawful, therefore he is a TERRORIST. He is a terrorist fighting for what you believe to be good, just as the terrorists that Usama hired believed (likely) that what HE was doing was good.

I don't think you'd hear any of the Al-Qaeda calling their leader a terrorist, so I don't expect you to admit that your leader is one.

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We never at one point took over Iraq.

LOL. I mean. WOW. I'm speechless. In fact, I'm going to make that bigtext for everyone to see.

Here's a newsflash. THE COALITION OCCUPIED IRAQ. THEY ALSO SET UP A REPRESENTITIVE GOVERNMENT.

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14. It is a general rule of cease fires. If you sign a cease-fire and the other side breaks it the cease-fire can be called off. We however did not do that.

Except you didn't MAKE the cease fire. The UN did. They are the only ones who can call it off. Not Congress or your president.

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15. Canada doesn't get FOX news, so how would you know how bad it is? Or do you pay extra for it?

We've had FOXnews for a while. At least, in my region.

Now, I have a question for you:

Why are you still arguing when you said you weren't going to? TWICE?

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