Renegade Public Forums
C&C: Renegade --> Dying since 2003™, resurrected in 2024!
Home » Renegade Discussions » Mod Forum » Renegade Alert SAM Site
Renegade Alert SAM Site [message #99074] Fri, 02 July 2004 21:53 Go to next message
Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
Messages: 8213
Registered: February 2003
Karma: 0
General (5 Stars)
The Soviet SAM Site is a long range anti-aircraft base defense for the Soviet military. It is normally found placed in a typical Soviet triangular pattern for maximum sky coverage from Allied Longbow threats.

These are vital to defending your base. Only a few Longbows, once the SAM Sites are down, can take out the Tesla Coil(s) in your base.

The model and set of two textures were done by myself.

http://dynamic6.gamespy.com/~renalert/forum/uploads/post-5-1088826688.jpg

http://dynamic6.gamespy.com/~renalert/forum/uploads/post-5-1088826722.jpg

http://dynamic6.gamespy.com/~renalert/forum/uploads/post-5-1088826778.jpg

http://dynamic6.gamespy.com/~renalert/forum/uploads/post-5-1088828419.jpg
Renegade Alert SAM Site [message #99077] Fri, 02 July 2004 21:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Fabian is currently offline  Fabian
Messages: 821
Registered: April 2003
Location: Boston, MA
Karma: 0
Colonel
nice. looks like the back could use some work, but i dont know because there are no good pics of the back.
Renegade Alert SAM Site [message #99144] Sat, 03 July 2004 03:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Majiin Vegeta is currently offline  Majiin Vegeta
Messages: 2186
Registered: February 2003
Location: London
Karma: 0
General (2 Stars)
it looks alright the back looks kinda cheesy coult you not model the launch chubes?? Razz
Renegade Alert SAM Site [message #99164] Sat, 03 July 2004 06:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
Messages: 8213
Registered: February 2003
Karma: 0
General (5 Stars)
Why? Modeling any of the tubes would add about 200 polygons when it's totally unnecessary.
Renegade Alert SAM Site [message #99216] Sat, 03 July 2004 11:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SuperFlyingEngi is currently offline  SuperFlyingEngi
Messages: 1756
Registered: November 2003
Karma: 0
General (1 Star)
The model and texture look awesome, but I have one question:

Will there be any sort of firing animation involving the missile guards opening and/or closing as the SAM site cycles through it's missiles?


"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)

The Liberal Media At Work
An objective look at media partisanship
Renegade Alert SAM Site [message #99222] Sat, 03 July 2004 12:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
maytridy is currently offline  maytridy
Messages: 1371
Registered: February 2003
Location: New York, USA
Karma: 0
General (1 Star)
I've got a question to add to that:

Will the sam site go underground when not in use, and pop up when enemies approach, like it did in Red Alert?


Renegade Alert SAM Site [message #99224] Sat, 03 July 2004 12:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
U927 is currently offline  U927
Messages: 709
Registered: February 2003
Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Karma: 0
Colonel
That was only in Tiberian Dawn. SAM Sites in Red Alert stayed above ground the whole time. The only time they showed them pop out of the ground was when they were being constructed.

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act but a habit. - Aristotle

8-Bit Theatre. The power of evil compels you!
Renegade Alert SAM Site [message #99227] Sat, 03 July 2004 12:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
OrcaPilot26 is currently offline  OrcaPilot26
Messages: 394
Registered: February 2003
Karma: 0
Commander
Yeah, It looks like Aircraftkiller's model is based off the icon, which is the same icon used in TD, instead of the in-game graphics.

http://www.n00bstories.com/image.fetch.php?id=1146122225


http://nova.deadlyfear.com/uploads/files//sig_orca.jpg
"ALL HAIL THE CHRONOSPHERE AND ITS CHRONOSHIFTY GOODNESS" -Aircraftkiller
Renegade Alert SAM Site [message #99234] Sat, 03 July 2004 12:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
Messages: 8213
Registered: February 2003
Karma: 0
General (5 Stars)
The in-game one was stupid looking, I prefer a small deviation to the purchase icon appearance.
Renegade Alert SAM Site [message #99239] Sat, 03 July 2004 13:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
htmlgod is currently offline  htmlgod
Messages: 360
Registered: July 2003
Karma: 0
Commander
The meshes of the covers for the launch tubes are overlapping with the mesh for the main frame of the thing. And I still think like in the places where the metal is scratched away, bricks are underneath, instead of more metal.

Check out http://newhope.conquergaming.com to see the progress of the STARWARS mod for Renegade.

http://newhope.conquergaming.com/OtherStuff/NIKE.jpg
Renegade Alert SAM Site [message #99242] Sat, 03 July 2004 13:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
Messages: 8213
Registered: February 2003
Karma: 0
General (5 Stars)
That's because rust is usually reddish due to iron oxidation.

"Any of various powdery or scaly reddish-brown or reddish-yellow hydrated ferric oxides formed on iron and iron-containing materials by low-temperature oxidation in the presence of water."
Renegade Alert SAM Site [message #99282] Sat, 03 July 2004 19:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
htmlgod is currently offline  htmlgod
Messages: 360
Registered: July 2003
Karma: 0
Commander
http://newhope.conquergaming.com/OtherStuff/BR1CKS.jpg

I'm not talking about the red coloration. I'm saying it literally looks like rows and columns of red brick wall, underneath the metal covering. To help you see what I'm talking about, I went over some of the detail in black, only covering up stuff that was already there.


Check out http://newhope.conquergaming.com to see the progress of the STARWARS mod for Renegade.

http://newhope.conquergaming.com/OtherStuff/NIKE.jpg
Renegade Alert SAM Site [message #99287] Sat, 03 July 2004 19:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SuperFlyingEngi is currently offline  SuperFlyingEngi
Messages: 1756
Registered: November 2003
Karma: 0
General (1 Star)
The black lines make it look maybe 45 bazillion times worse than the actual texture.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)

The Liberal Media At Work
An objective look at media partisanship
Renegade Alert SAM Site [message #99292] Sat, 03 July 2004 20:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
NeoX is currently offline  NeoX
Messages: 408
Registered: April 2003
Location: Canada, Ontario, Acton
Karma: 0
Commander
It just ack uses these grime brushes .... and you cant you them all for ever type of material nut um yea,
Renegade Alert SAM Site [message #99294] Sat, 03 July 2004 20:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
htmlgod is currently offline  htmlgod
Messages: 360
Registered: July 2003
Karma: 0
Commander
SuperFlyingEngi

The black lines make it look maybe 45 bazillion times worse than the actual texture.


I'm not trying to make it look good, I'm trying to point out how much its pattern is like that of a brick wall.


Check out http://newhope.conquergaming.com to see the progress of the STARWARS mod for Renegade.

http://newhope.conquergaming.com/OtherStuff/NIKE.jpg
Renegade Alert SAM Site [message #99300] Sat, 03 July 2004 21:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
Messages: 8213
Registered: February 2003
Karma: 0
General (5 Stars)
There is no pattern to it, you're seeing an optical illusion. Why must you make me feel like I need to take a fucking microscope view of each texture so you know exactly what it was composed of? I assure you that the entire thing has rust where the paint wore away, including the top. I don't add brick to a fucking steel SAM Site.
Renegade Alert SAM Site [message #99895] Tue, 06 July 2004 09:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
HELLBILLY DELUXE is currently offline  HELLBILLY DELUXE
Messages: 68
Registered: July 2004
Karma: 0
Recruit
It looks exactly like the Tiberian Dawn one from the cutscenes. If there would have been a Red Alert cutscene with it, if would've prolly looked like it as well. Nothing to criticize =( ;D

HI2U! I R ICECREAM MAN!!
<3 <3 <3
Renegade Alert SAM Site [message #99896] Tue, 06 July 2004 10:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deactivated is currently offline  Deactivated
Messages: 1503
Registered: February 2003
Karma: 0
General (1 Star)
http://www.cannis.net/forum/uploads/post-32-1083588612.jpg
Renegade Alert SAM Site [message #99899] Tue, 06 July 2004 10:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
HELLBILLY DELUXE is currently offline  HELLBILLY DELUXE
Messages: 68
Registered: July 2004
Karma: 0
Recruit
Hmm....maybe it would look even better, if the edges were rounded a bit Surprised
Thx, Sea^^


HI2U! I R ICECREAM MAN!!
<3 <3 <3
Renegade Alert SAM Site [message #99903] Tue, 06 July 2004 11:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
Messages: 8213
Registered: February 2003
Karma: 0
General (5 Stars)
Yeah, and it woud have unnecessary polygons.
Renegade Alert SAM Site [message #99905] Tue, 06 July 2004 11:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PermaGrin
Messages: 285
Registered: June 2004
Location: Winter Park, Fl
Karma: 0
Recruit

to the renalert team...i have dropped the constant bickering between mod teams. we are all in the same community and should help one another.

what is the current poly count?

by just "chamfer"ing the 4 edges of the current main box of the sam site would make it appear slight more round without adding a large number of polys (im guessing it would add around 12 polys). not much for the gain.

i know the sam sites in RA didnt pop up and down, but will they in the mod? i think it would add more flavor and depth.

[Updated on: Tue, 06 July 2004 11:58]

Report message to a moderator

Renegade Alert SAM Site [message #99907] Tue, 06 July 2004 11:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
HELLBILLY DELUXE is currently offline  HELLBILLY DELUXE
Messages: 68
Registered: July 2004
Karma: 0
Recruit
How high is the edge ? Cuz i if it is like ground surface I would leave it. If not I would give it more polys, but make it look better.

HI2U! I R ICECREAM MAN!!
<3 <3 <3
Renegade Alert SAM Site [message #99930] Tue, 06 July 2004 13:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SuperFlyingEngi is currently offline  SuperFlyingEngi
Messages: 1756
Registered: November 2003
Karma: 0
General (1 Star)
I believe right now it's flush with the ground - It would probably look fine with or without a raised, beveled edge.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)

The Liberal Media At Work
An objective look at media partisanship
Renegade Alert SAM Site [message #99936] Tue, 06 July 2004 13:50 Go to previous message
Doitle is currently offline  Doitle
Messages: 1723
Registered: February 2003
Location: Chicago, IL
Karma: 0
General (1 Star)
Moderator/Captain

If there was only one comment I could make. It would be maybe try adding a bit of... Weathering shared between the plate it sits on and each of its feet. They way they are right now I'm just not convinced it's been there very long. If the rest of it is scratched and dented up, this part looks like its brand new floating above the ground there. Maybe if you added some dirt that looks like it accumulated up against the feet and on the ground it might look just a tad better.

http://www.n00bstories.com/image.fetch.php?id=1028187839

Maybe something like that. Just a little bit more messyness down there as I'd imagine dirt and grime would accumulate against the edges of the feet and the ground there.


http://www.n00bstories.com/image.fetch.php?id=1285726594
Previous Topic: HELP!
Next Topic: map fixes problem, please someone help
Goto Forum:
  


Current Time: Wed Dec 04 15:14:18 MST 2024

Total time taken to generate the page: 0.01103 seconds