| Dirtiest American Campaign Ever [message #91865] |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Bush has been running a very negative campaign this election year - in fact, he's been running the most negative campaign in the history of the U.S. The Washington Post did an analysis of campaign ads, and came up with this article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3222-2004May30.html
Let's take a quick look at what they say:
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Three-quarters of the ads aired by Bush's campaign have been attacks on Kerry. Bush so far has aired 49,050 negative ads in the top 100 markets, or 75 percent of his advertising. Kerry has run 13,336 negative ads -- or 27 percent of his total. The figures were compiled by The Washington Post using data from the Campaign Media Analysis Group of the top 100 U.S. markets. Both campaigns said the figures are accurate.
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"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| Dirtiest American Campaign Ever [message #91971] |
Wed, 02 June 2004 18:52  |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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I dunno, that one guy was being a dumbass. He doesn't belong at the wall...what a load of crap. And Sampley has a record for hitting people. Also, that Newsmax story seems somewhat questionable - check this out:
http://justoneminute.typepad.com/
Scroll down, it's under the title "We Flip for Kerry"
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| Dirtiest American Campaign Ever [message #91976] |
Wed, 02 June 2004 19:03 |
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I don't get it.... they are saying he flipped the guy off too. And saying this his goals are moot because he supposedly hit a guy once is ad hominem.
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| Dirtiest American Campaign Ever [message #92112] |
Thu, 03 June 2004 07:14 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Alright, that website was kind of cryptic in what it was saying, so I went back to google and took a look around. What I found was that Ted Sampley supposedly tried to stage an event to make Kerry look bad by acting like a jackass in front of him [which he performed admirably] and then Kerry made an obscene gesture in front of him. And Newsmax just happened to be there...
Also, Ted Sampley doesn't seem like a credible guy to me... John McCain calls Sampley "one of the most despicable people I have ever had the misfortune to encounter."
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| Dirtiest American Campaign Ever [message #92217] |
Thu, 03 June 2004 13:10 |
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Crimson
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Whether he's credible or not, Kerry still performed the obscene gesture in front of kids.
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| Dirtiest American Campaign Ever [message #92597] |
Fri, 04 June 2004 18:29 |
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Well, no one other reporters that I can discern were there, so it must have not been a big event, however, Newsmax is not a big magazine/online publication.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| Dirtiest American Campaign Ever [message #92664] |
Fri, 04 June 2004 21:43 |
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Yeah... who would hang around John Kerry when he makes a public appearance. I'm telling you, there's no enthusiasm behind this guy.
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| Dirtiest American Campaign Ever [message #93374] |
Mon, 07 June 2004 12:06 |
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HAHAHAHAHAHA
Like the democrats in the states haven't been bashing bush for the past two years as they geared up for the election. The Democratic candidate debates were less of "Why you should vote for me" and more of "why Bush is an asshole"
If the DNC wants to claim bush is running the most negative campaign ever, it's only in response to the vicious, virulent, voiceferous hatred emanating from the left.
Down with the Liberal Thieves in Ottawa!
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| Dirtiest American Campaign Ever [message #93397] |
Mon, 07 June 2004 13:42 |
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Well, first, that's not really true, a large part of democratic campaigns is how they will fix the problems created by Bush like Iraq and the tax situation.
It's not a vicious hate pool emanating from the left, it's all because of this incompetent administration that has barely done anything right. Also, only about a quarter of Kerry's ads are negative, in response to about three quarters of Bush's negative ads.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| Dirtiest American Campaign Ever [message #93570] |
Tue, 08 June 2004 06:20 |
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Yeah... who would hang around John Kerry when he makes a public appearance. I'm telling you, there's no enthusiasm behind this guy.
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The Democrats should have stuck to Wes Clark. With Kerry there are NO worries about Bush re-election.
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| Dirtiest American Campaign Ever [message #93604] |
Tue, 08 June 2004 10:57 |
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Yeah... who would hang around John Kerry when he makes a public appearance. I'm telling you, there's no enthusiasm behind this guy.
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The Democrats should have stuck to Wes Clark. With Kerry there are NO worries about Bush re-election.
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Or Dean -- he never would have won the election but at least there was some enthusiasm behind the guy that seemed more "pro-Dean" than anti-Bush.
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| Dirtiest American Campaign Ever [message #93731] |
Tue, 08 June 2004 18:31 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Actually, right now the odds don't look so good for Bush. Statisticians look at records of everything trying to find any and every connection. And something that they have found is that every presidential candidate's approval rating 6 months before the election turns in to how much of the vote they draw. And it's been like this for a hundred years in American history. So come November, probability says Bush wiill draw 41% of the vote, and lose to Kerry. And then we fix Bush's mess.
I also believe Wesley Clark was cool, but Kerry has had a lot more experience in the field of politics. Someone like Dean just really wasn't ready for the spotlight yet...
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Kerry has so many problems, Bush needs multiple commercials.
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Ok...like what? If Bush did not want to run a negative campaign he would not run a negative campaign. Your response was highly idiotic. And multiple as in 49,000?
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| Dirtiest American Campaign Ever [message #93770] |
Tue, 08 June 2004 20:21 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Ehrm....except for all the processes a president needs to fulfill... It would take a lot of work to rig the U.S. government so it can complete it's duties without a president.
Also, Kerry is not a bad candidate. He's been a great Senator for a long time. He gets sweeped into the Senate by his state with 80% majority.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| Dirtiest American Campaign Ever [message #93784] |
Tue, 08 June 2004 21:22 |
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John F. Kerry missed 72% of 119 recorded votes held in 2003 on issues President Bush had taken a position on according to Congressional Quarterly. Kerry's fellow Massachusetts senator Ted Kennedy missed just 3% of these votes. Kerry and Kennedy voted the same way 100% of the time on "key votes" in 1986 through 1989, 1992, 1993, 1998, 1999 and 2001.
And of course Ted Kennedy is the type of person everyone wants their son to grow up to be... :rolleyes:
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| Dirtiest American Campaign Ever [message #93856] |
Wed, 09 June 2004 05:26 |
KIRBY098
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John F. Kerry missed 72% of 119 recorded votes held in 2003 on issues President Bush had taken a position on according to Congressional Quarterly. Kerry's fellow Massachusetts senator Ted Kennedy missed just 3% of these votes. Kerry and Kennedy voted the same way 100% of the time on "key votes" in 1986 through 1989, 1992, 1993, 1998, 1999 and 2001.
And of course Ted Kennedy is the type of person everyone wants their son to grow up to be... :rolleyes:
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Things like this are what make me want a system like they had described in Starship troopers.
You serve, and you get a vote. Service means citizenship, and serving your country definately changes the doe eyed outlook on this world from innocent happy-land, to a dangerous place where americans are the minority, and are very much hated.
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