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"old art assets", whats out there [message #90753] Sat, 29 May 2004 06:21 Go to next message
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I personally have the following:
all the official zips from the WS FTP (e.g. buildings.zip, renegadetextures.zip etc)
the contents of otherassets.zip (conyard, flame tank, humvee, bike, gun emplacement, hovercraft, light tank, truck and some kind of plane)
the old medium tank with the multiple textures
And the old longbow apache (I think its got some wheels or something)

I am also aware of the old harvester (being used by the Commmando mod) plus a bunch of old levels that ACK finished up.

Are there any other things out there (old buildings that pre-date the building models in buildings.zip, old vehicles not in the zips mentioned above or whatever?)

Things that are available for download, things that a modder has but hasnt made public, basicly anything that exists outside of whatever vault EA put all that stuff into.


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"old art assets", whats out there [message #90758] Sat, 29 May 2004 06:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you didn't know, buildings.zip has the original refinery and silo models. I also think C&C Commando has the original Nod Buggy.

http://nova.deadlyfear.com/uploads/files//sig_orca.jpg
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"old art assets", whats out there [message #90765] Sat, 29 May 2004 06:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OrcaPilot26

I also think C&C Commando has the original Nod Buggy.


But it is not the official one. Just a model based on an old screenshot.
"old art assets", whats out there [message #90798] Sat, 29 May 2004 09:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There's still loads of stuff that isn't available in Max/W3D format. Apart from the stuff released by Aircraftkiller and PiMuRho, I haven't seen these things:

Nod Advanced Power Plant.
Nod Rader Center.
Older version of Tiberium Silo.
Older version of Tiberium Refinery
A slightly different and bigger version of the Mammoth Tank (Current one could be modified to it anyway).
Older version of the GDI Officer (seen in the Renegade preview video that came with Yuri's Revenge.
Orca model with different texture.
Older Nod Buggy, (there was also a slightly different version of the current one wich had front head lights in the texture).

Can't think of anything else right now.


Ooh, nasty.
"old art assets", whats out there [message #91645] Tue, 01 June 2004 14:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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the bottom line on older models is that you wouldn't want them anyway. Those models in the zips were way better than those older ones by a mile. I made a cool tiberian sun version of the nod buggy first so let me see if that is around in my files... yoou guys would like that sucker a lot.
"old art assets", whats out there [message #91647] Tue, 01 June 2004 14:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cool, more models from Eric. Very Happy

http://www.n00bstories.com/image.fetch.php?id=1096263174
"old art assets", whats out there [message #91652] Tue, 01 June 2004 14:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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He does have a point. That Communications Center, for example, looked like ass.

http://www.g-renegade.com/images/structures/comcenter.jpg

Doesn't even look like the Communications Center from C&C.
"old art assets", whats out there [message #91655] Tue, 01 June 2004 14:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I always thought that model would have been cooler had it not been for the texture-work... the design of the building was ok... nod being a scavanger type group and all but the poor thing was in the hands of an artist that wasnt doing his best then. It had an interior too... btw--- I cannot locate the nodbuggy I was yapping about so sorry if anyone's hopes were up. Hehe.
"old art assets", whats out there [message #91797] Wed, 02 June 2004 01:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I always thought that model would have been cooler had it not been for the texture-work... the design of the building was ok... nod being a scavanger type group and all but the poor thing was in the hands of an artist that wasnt doing his best then. It had an interior too... btw--- I cannot locate the nodbuggy I was yapping about so sorry if anyone's hopes were up. Hehe.


But at least it looked like its Tiberian Dawn counterpart. More than the current one in game does.

Does Genocide's buggy resemble the old buggy a bit?
http://www.cannis.net/commando/images/c4/screen/buggy.jpg

It's the based on this picture.
http://www.cannis.net/commando/images/renegade/prop/pcg-oct99-3.jpg

I'm considering to give out the model as it didn't look like its TD counterpart, which was based on the real USMC Scorpion Fast Attack Vehicle.
"old art assets", whats out there [message #91809] Wed, 02 June 2004 03:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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phlakaton

I made a cool tiberian sun version of the nod buggy first [...]


Personally I don't think your TD buggy (which I do quite like btw) resembles Eric's TS buggy.
"old art assets", whats out there [message #91834] Wed, 02 June 2004 08:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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do you guys not have that nod buggy with the metal framing? The second screenshot in that last post from Seaman?
"old art assets", whats out there [message #91836] Wed, 02 June 2004 08:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No, I don't have it.
That's why a new model was made based on the screenshot.

The desert humvee (your Humvee) was about get modelled as well, but since the original model was released, there was no need to model it again.
"old art assets", whats out there [message #91841] Wed, 02 June 2004 09:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Original Renegade buggy.
Thanks Eric.
http://www.cannis.net/yuri/files/NODBuggy.zip
"old art assets", whats out there [message #91845] Wed, 02 June 2004 10:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Where is the Orca Lift Truck?
"old art assets", whats out there [message #91848] Wed, 02 June 2004 10:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Where is the Orca Lift Truck?


Frankly said, the model got slapped and was turned in to SSM Launcher.
Since we're talking about the truck, here is a few pics of it:
http://www.cannis.net/commando/images/renegade/concept/hires007.jpg
http://www.cannis.net/commando/images/renegade/ingame/hires018.jpg
"old art assets", whats out there [message #92076] Thu, 03 June 2004 03:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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it would be cool to get the original renegade weapons, those were cool
"old art assets", whats out there [message #92078] Thu, 03 June 2004 03:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sniper rifle=M82A1 Special Application Scoped Rifle

The weapons were quite low poly, but they had good textures.
I think the old Chem Sprayer was the best.
"old art assets", whats out there [message #92080] Thu, 03 June 2004 03:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yeah but do you have those weapons ?
"old art assets", whats out there [message #92123] Thu, 03 June 2004 07:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well... I know for sure that I dont have the weapons files. Sorry. That Orca lift truck... I dont think it was ever fully completed... if it was it was like SeaMan mentioned... only for a short while and then mauled into some other vehicle. We had different versions for multiplayer and single player so sometimes I loose track myself.
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Another pic of it... original C&C render:
ftp://ftp.westwood.com/pub/cc1/previews/scrnshot/orca.gif
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boy... they didn't do much detail back then... not a good looking model at all. Simple bump and simple color map. Yuck.
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http://www.cannis.net/commando/images/renegade/concept/hires008.jpg
Original Raveshaw looked badass.
http://www.cannis.net/commando/images/renegade/concept/hires009.jpg
Mendoza.. he looks more a South American (Latin) serial killer than the current one (based on original Raveshaw) does.
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phlakaton

boy... they didn't do much detail back then... not a good looking model at all. Simple bump and simple color map. Yuck.


You're not kidding. I've just been making some stuff using the original renders/cutscenes as a reference, and some of that stuff is awful


"old art assets", whats out there [message #92130] Thu, 03 June 2004 08:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah. That's why it's better to research what real life things they're based on rather than copy them directly.

There are several obvious clues.. Apache= AH-64 Apache.

But some vehicles are harder to figure out.. like figuring out what the Buggy was took about two months to find it out that it was based on Scorpion Fast Attack Vehicle.

Gunboat.. still unresolved.
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I didnt hose around with the apache... I went to the real one for the bugger... ended up looking pretty good I thought.
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