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| Proof Anti-War arguments hold no Water! [message #8577] |
Fri, 21 March 2003 14:54   |
spotelmo
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there is a difference between nationality and race. That definition just prvoes Ack is correct. French people are cuacasion. You neevr see a Black eprosn that has ancestors have alwyas been french.
Negroid
Cuacasion
Mongoloid
are the only races.
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a country is also a race... the german race is the most popular use
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| Proof Anti-War arguments hold no Water! [message #8631] |
Fri, 21 March 2003 19:16 |
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I have long since ignored nearly all political standpoints, they are all supported by secrets that I have no tolerance for. I do not like people who say Bush is an evil dictator who only does this for the sake of finishing what the first Bush didn't complete. Bush may just be the person to save the U.S. and maybe the world from a threat of massive potential (yet we aren't sure of anything, now are we?). I also do not want this to get too in-depth, like Vietnam turned out to be (as a variable example). This "terrorism threat" could turn out to be more than we asked for. Along those lines, Bush did get into this rather dilligently, though we have been battling this stressfull "threat" for quite some time now. I am neither pro-war or anti-war, I merely hope that since we got into this, the leaders of these countries know enough of what they're doing to end this quickly and precisely.
There's my 2 cents, go buy a beer.
"God isn't on our side either, cuz he hates idiots also."
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| Proof Anti-War arguments hold no Water! [message #8643] |
Fri, 21 March 2003 19:39 |
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there is a difference between nationality and race. That definition just prvoes Ack is correct. French people are cuacasion. You neevr see a Black eprosn that has ancestors have alwyas been french.
Negroid
Cuacasion
Mongoloid
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Nationality can be considered Race.
| www.dictionary.com |
1. A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics.
2. A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race.
3. A genealogical line; a lineage.
4. Humans considered as a group.
Biology.
1. An interbreeding, usually geographically isolated population of organisms differing from other populations of the same species in the frequency of hereditary traits. A race that has been given formal taxonomic recognition is known as a subspecies.
2. A breed or strain, as of domestic animals.
5. A distinguishing or characteristic quality, such as the flavor of a wine.
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[French, from Old French, from Old Italian razza, race, lineage.]
Usage Note: The notion of race is nearly as problematic from a scientific point of view as it is from a social one. European physical anthropologists of the 17th and 18th centuries proposed various systems of racial classifications based on such observable characteristics as skin color, hair type, body proportions, and skull measurements, essentially codifying the perceived differences among broad geographic populations of humans. The traditional terms for these populationsCaucasoid (or Caucasian), Mongoloid, Negroid, and in some systems Australoidare now controversial in both technical and nontechnical usage, and in some cases they may well be considered offensive. (Caucasian does retain a certain currency in American English, but it is used almost exclusively to mean “white” or “European” rather than “belonging to the Caucasian race,” a group that includes a variety of peoples generally categorized as nonwhite.) The biological aspect of race is described today not in observable physical features but rather in such genetic characteristics as blood groups and metabolic processes, and the groupings indicated by these factors seldom coincide very neatly with those put forward by earlier physical anthropologists. Citing this and other pointssuch as the fact that a person who is considered black in one society might be nonblack in anothermany cultural anthropologists now consider race to be more a social or mental construct than an objective biological fact.
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| Proof Anti-War arguments hold no Water! [message #8723] |
Sat, 22 March 2003 03:32 |
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[sg]the0ne
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Well if you look at it Bush's plans are made of logic. But logic on how to further himself. What does N. Korea have that interests him? Iraq has oil for him to make billions from. N. Korea, well it has a dictator he can take credit for disarming.
Let's see:
billions+a pension fund>re-election+a few more years of presidential salary
Greed corupts power.
And my question lies unanswered.
Are americans a race?
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Here let me help you...no Americans OBVIOUSLY are not a race.
You've still got the peices in the wrong places...
You see France & Germany dont want to goto war because they have business/debts w/the Iraqi government. They are afraid if a regime change happens their economy will go even FARTHER south than it currently is...
| The BBC |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2542047.stm
Unemployment in Germany has risen above the politically sensitive 4 million level, reaching its highest November level in five years.
The number of Germans without a job rose by 96,100 to 4,025,842, unadjusted for seasonal factors, last month, the country's federal labour office said.
The rise, which took the unemployment rate to 9.7% compared with 9.4% in October, affected in particular the former communist east of the country.
The unemployment rate in eastern Germany hit [/b]17.6%[/b], compared with 7.8% in the west of the country.
" At the start of 2003 we will certainly see a rise in unemployment to over 4.5 million
Ralph Solveen, Commerzbank"
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| The U.S.A. Burea of Labor & Statistics |
Regional Unemployment (Seasonally Adjusted)
Among the four regions, the Midwest recorded the lowest unemployment
rate in January, 5.3 percent, followed by the South, 5.4 percent. The West continued to report the highest rate, 6.2 percent, although its rate was down 0.3 percentage point from December. The remaining three regions posted smaller over-the-month jobless rate decreases. Over the year, only the Northeast had an increase in its unemployment rate (+0.3 percentage point), as the other three regions had small declines.
Among the nine geographic divisions, the West North Central again re-
ported the lowest jobless rate, 4.3 percent in January, while the Pacific
division continued to register the highest unemployment rate, 6.5 percent. All geographic divisions posted over-the-month rate decreases, with the largest decline recorded in the Pacific (-0.4 percentage point). Over
the year, the East South Central had the largest jobless rate decline
(-0.5 percentage point), while the Middle Atlantic and New England divi-
sions posted the largest increases (+0.4 point each).
(--Putting us somewhere around 5.8%--)
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French Confidence Declines to Five-Year Low
By Francois de Beaupuy
Paris, Feb. 4 (Bloomberg) -- Confidence among French consumers, whose spending accounts for more than half of Europe's third-largest economy, slumped to a five-year low as unemployment climbed.
An index based on a government survey of 2,000 people fell to minus 22 from minus 17 in December. Optimism is also waning in Germany and Italy, which together with France account for about three-quarters of the gross domestic product of the euro nations.
``Confidence is weak throughout Europe and unemployment adds to the problem,'' said Peter Lemmer, a fund manager at Gerling Investment in Cologne, Germany, who recently sold 13,000 shares in French retailer Pinault-Printemps-Redoute SA. ``I see no reason why it should improve.''
Companies from Alcatel SA to Fiat SpA are trimming workers as the region's economy heads for its first contraction since the end of 2001. Dwindling consumer confidence reduces the prospects for a rebound in coming months while factories trim production. France's unemployment rate rose to 9.1 percent in December.
``2003 will still be a difficult year,'' Jean-Pascal Beaufret, chief financial officer of Alcatel SA, said on a conference call with journalists. Europe's biggest maker of telecommunications equipment is eliminating 40 percent of its workforce.
The Dow Jones Stoxx 50 Index fell for the first day in six, shedding 2 percent to 2224.0 as of 12:13 p.m. in Paris. The index declined 37 percent last year. The yield on the 4 3/4 percent French government bond maturing in 2012 fell 6 basis points to 4.06 percent. A basis point is 0.01 percentage point.
`In the Abyss'
France's jobless rate, fifth highest in the 15-member European Union, will probably rise to 9.3 percent by the middle of the year, the government forecasts. Unemployment climbed to 9.1 percent in December and the number of people seeking work increased to a 28-month high of 2.45 million.
``We're in the abyss,'' said Daniel Tournez, general secretary of Indecosa-CGT, a consumers' association affiliated with CGT, France's second-biggest labor union. ``It's hard to boost spending when morale is so low.''
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Remember the German president is the one who rode in on the coat-tails on 'anti-war' so who do you think is the country w/it's hands tied against logical reasoning...
For the recap...
Ameria's unemployment rate - 5.8%
France's unemployment rate - 9.1%
Germany's unemployment rate - 9.7%
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| Proof Anti-War arguments hold no Water! [message #8862] |
Sat, 22 March 2003 15:54 |
spotelmo
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the0ne]Here let me help you...no Americans OBVIOUSLY are not a race.
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yes, they are, we already went over the dictionary definition of race, move on.
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| Proof Anti-War arguments hold no Water! [message #9182] |
Sun, 23 March 2003 19:36 |
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[sg]the0ne
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| Commando no. 448 |
So you want to be liek that. The true definition of America
America = Greed
America = Overpowered
America = Stuck up
America = Global monopoly
America = Nosey
And what are the Americans going to do? Remove my communist dictatorship over the 105 citizens of The Republic of my Keyboard? Might have trouble fighting the republican guard delete keys. And one thing is for sure the F key regular army isn't going to surrender.
But remember you brought me to this.
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America = Free Market Economic Structure
America = As much power as we EARN or CREATE
America = ?You wouldn't be happy if you were #1?
America != GLOBAL FUCKING MONOPLY ? Are you kidding me ?
America = The Friendliest super power/global leader the world has ever had...I wish more people would realize this.
BTW Things like GREED are COMMUNIST ideas, who's to say how much money I deserve ? Who is to say how successful America should be ? So at some point in our AWESOME success there is this INVISIBLE LINE CALLED GREED that some other (lesser) country makes up. And anything beyond this line we OWE OUR $$ AND RESOURCES TO SOMEONE ELSE ? Please explain how this GREED works, I was ALWAYS under the impression that I DESERVED WHAT I EARN OR PRODUCE...you seem to be under a different ideal...
We made the country & the people within it free...this made us THE BEST.
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But remember you brought me to this.
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Please dont TRY to off-load YOUR ACTIONS onto OTHER PEOPLE. Not one of us is over there holding your fingers making you press the keys. Offloading responsibility = bad. OUR COUNTRY IS ALL FUCKED UP IT MUST BE THE FAULT OF THOSE GREEDY FUCKING AMERICANS... :rolleyes:
You may wish to remove that...
g-e-t--a--g-r-i-p on reality.
Things like : nosey & stuck-up would still be a small burden to deal with considering we COULD turn countries, cities etc into SEAS OF GLASS, or just take your shit from you...sooooooo deal.
For what reason are the French nosey & stuck-up ? Because they're the best there is when it comes to giving up & fucking shit up...oh yah, good point.
France = irrelevant
UN = people who weren't in the scouts when they were kids...
Iraq = 53 UN resolutions since 1990..when would the UN of learned its leason ?
IF The UN hosted a baseball game and the 1st batter didn't hit the ball HE WOULD NEVER BE OUT CAUSE THEY'D KEEP AMMENDING THE RULES !
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edit : America is a country that has been more successful than any other country in the history of the world. We are the country of innovation.
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| Proof Anti-War arguments hold no Water! [message #9212] |
Mon, 24 March 2003 00:43 |
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K9Trooper
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Subject: The French!!!
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> "France has neither winter nor summer nor morals. Apart from these
>drawbacks it is a fine country.
> France has usually been governed by prostitutes."
> ---Mark Twain
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> "I just love the French. They taste like chicken!"
> ---- Hannibal Lecter
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> While speaking to the Hoover Institution today, Secretary Donald
>Rumsfeld was asked this question:
> "Could you tell us why to date at least the Administration doesn't favor
>direct talks with the North Korean government? After all, we're talking
>with the French." The Secretary smiled and replied: "I'm not going
>there!"
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> "I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one
>behind me."
> --- General George S. Patton
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> "Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your
>accordion."
> --Norman Schwartzkopf
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> "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure"
> ---Jacques Chirac, President of France
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> "As far as France is concerned, you're right."
> ---Rush Limbaugh,
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> "The only time France wants us to go to war is when the German Army is
>sitting in Paris sipping coffee."
> --- Regis Philbin
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> "You know, the French remind me a little bit of an aging actress of the
>1940s who was still trying to dine out on her looks but doesn't have the
>face for it."
> ---John McCain, U.S. Senator from Arizona
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> "You know why the French don't want to bomb Saddam Hussein? Because he
>hates America, he loves mistresses and wears a beret. He is French,
>people."
> --Conan O'Brien
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> "I don't know why people are surprised that France won't
> help us get Saddam out of Iraq. After all, France wouldn't help us get
>the Germans out of France!"
> ---Jay Leno
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> "The last time the French asked for 'more proof' it came marching into
>Paris under a German flag."
> --David Letterman
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> REPLACEMENT FOR THE
> FRENCH NATIONAL ANTHEM:
> "Runaway" by Del Shannon
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> Next time there's a war in Europe, the loser has to keep France
R.I.P. TreyD. You will be missed, but not forgotten.
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