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For the attention of Clan FUD [message #90629] Fri, 28 May 2004 16:47 Go to next message
spoonyrat is currently offline  spoonyrat
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I took a moment to read your character info.
Regarding the Mobile Artillery...

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it's not going to last without engineer support for long in a one on one fight against most other vehicles

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it can be difficult to hit infantry close enough to do massive damage due to the inaccuracy of the Mobile Artillery's cannon

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Be careful when taking on enemy tanks with a Mobile Artillery; unless you can outrange them they're probably going to kick your ass

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If you see this happening, the easiest way to remove them is to get a Havoc or PIC Sydney

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Unless you're outside their range, I don't recommend taking on tanks with a Mobile Artillery as you will probably lose


Lol. It's been a while since I had such a good laugh
For the attention of Clan FUD [message #90633] Fri, 28 May 2004 16:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Then I take it you've never seen Priest of B in a tank.


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For the attention of Clan FUD [message #90646] Fri, 28 May 2004 18:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Whats the issue? I would agree with most of if not all those quotes. The Mobile Artillery is very powerful but even a minigunner can make swiss cheese of it pretty quickly.
For the attention of Clan FUD [message #90652] Fri, 28 May 2004 18:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think, spoony, that when writing that, they assumed the reader would be somewhat of a newbie, and not have powerful hax0rz like yourself.
For the attention of Clan FUD [message #90653] Fri, 28 May 2004 18:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I agree with all but the second quote.

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For the attention of Clan FUD [message #90654] Fri, 28 May 2004 18:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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IRON-FART

I agree with all but the second quote.


He's refering to the shell, not the splash.



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For the attention of Clan FUD [message #90670] Fri, 28 May 2004 19:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I wasn't referring to host arty, which is godlike accurate, I was referring to average arty. And yes, I regularly own arties even with regular rifle soldiers or shotgunners, so I tend to have a biased view of their usefulness. Excellent pointwhore tools, but without repair support they tend to crumple under fire.

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For the attention of Clan FUD [message #90672] Fri, 28 May 2004 19:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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With good teamwork, a team of 4-8 people with at least 2 Techs to repair can go out and inflict some serious damage. And I mean destruction, not just PWing.

Thats great fun when people work well together.


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For the attention of Clan FUD [message #90701] Fri, 28 May 2004 23:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Indeed. Too bad it rarely happens unless you pay people off.

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For the attention of Clan FUD [message #90712] Sat, 29 May 2004 01:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"point whoring" is the term that newbies take refuge under for being owned...
For the attention of Clan FUD [message #90740] Sat, 29 May 2004 04:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I may as well elaborate

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it's not going to last without engineer support for long in a one on one fight against most other vehicles


I can take any GDI ground vehicle with an arty ten times out of ten. Med: nine times out of ten. (Unless it's driven by a top CW player, in which case it would be more like four out of ten). And I don't need the range advantage to do it.

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it can be difficult to hit infantry close enough to do massive damage due to the inaccuracy of the Mobile Artillery's cannon


Bodyshotting infantry with an arty is easy as hell if you're reasonably close. At long distance... well, can't do it every shot, but it's do-able

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Be careful when taking on enemy tanks with a Mobile Artillery; unless you can outrange them they're probably going to kick your ass


Read the reply to the first quote, it's the same thing really

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If you see this happening, the easiest way to remove them is to get a Havoc or PIC Sydney


False. If the artillery is piloted by a tech, which it probably will be, a single Havoc or PIC simply cannot win unless he manages to kill the tech, which is unlikely against a good player. The only GDI weaponry a technician can't repair over are: med, MRLS, mammoth and orca missiles. And APC+PIC, but most people don't know what that is anyway

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Unless you're outside their range, I don't recommend taking on tanks with a Mobile Artillery as you will probably lose


Again, this is virtually the same as the first and third quotes.


Whoever wrote this commentary has never seen an arty piloted by someone who actually knows how to use it
For the attention of Clan FUD [message #90748] Sat, 29 May 2004 05:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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spoonyrat

I can take any GDI ground vehicle with an arty ten times out of ten. Med: nine times out of ten. (Unless it's driven by a top CW player, in which case it would be more like four out of ten). And I don't need the range advantage to do it.


Again: You've never seen Priest of B in a tank.

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Bodyshotting infantry with an arty is easy as hell if you're reasonably close. At long distance... well, can't do it every shot, but it's do-able


Note the key word "can", as in "can be difficult". I find it fairly easy to hit any infantry with a tank shell, but that doesn't mean there aren't situations where it is difficult.

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False. If the artillery is piloted by a tech, which it probably will be, a single Havoc or PIC simply cannot win unless he manages to kill the tech, which is unlikely against a good player. The only GDI weaponry a technician can't repair over are: med, MRLS, mammoth and orca missiles. And APC+PIC, but most people don't know what that is anyway


So let me get this straight: You're using utterly circumstantial situations to argue a concrete conclusion. Well, two can play that game. Even if the Artillery WAS manned with a technician, if you're a PIC or a Havoc, or hell, even a Deadeye, if you can't hit the tard when he hops out of his tank, then you lack discipline, friend. It's fairly easy to navigate around the artillery to hit a unit from any angle.

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Whoever wrote this commentary has never seen an arty piloted by someone who actually knows how to use it


I hope your refering to your own commentary, because you have generally no idea what you're talking about.



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For the attention of Clan FUD [message #90754] Sat, 29 May 2004 06:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I hope your refering to your own commentary, because you have generally no idea what you're talking about.


It's pretty obvious I understand the way tank weaponry works a lot better than the FUD. It's OK, don't feel bad, we all go through a stage of not knowing what an artillery is capable of

Oh, and also your comment comes from someone whose clan site stated that a mammoth could destroy a building in fourteen seconds :rolleyes:
For the attention of Clan FUD [message #90756] Sat, 29 May 2004 06:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh, and also your comment comes from someone whose clan site stated that a mammoth could destroy a building in fourteen seconds

That was a mistake from what I read.

That certain someone is Deathgod and he also posted this:

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http://www.renegadeforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=10145
Yeah, I wrote that at 2 in the morning, and I forgot to calculate the reload time between barrels. It should be 28/38 seconds, and it has been corrected on the site as well.


That is.... if you had even bothered to read.

Trust me - Deathgod knows what he is talking about.


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For the attention of Clan FUD [message #90762] Sat, 29 May 2004 06:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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spoonyrat

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I hope your refering to your own commentary, because you have generally no idea what you're talking about.


It's pretty obvious I understand the way tank weaponry works a lot better than the FUD. It's OK, don't feel bad, we all go through a stage of not knowing what an artillery is capable of

Oh, and also your comment comes from someone whose clan site stated that a mammoth could destroy a building in fourteen seconds :rolleyes:


The only thing that is obvious is that you have no clue as to what you're talking about. And while I see that you're in still in that stage you refer to, you really shouldn't be talking about how Artillery work.



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For the attention of Clan FUD [message #90766] Sat, 29 May 2004 07:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The only thing easier to body shoot with then an arty is a med...Yes it is hard sometimes in a shit ass warp server but generally its easy. If the server is good you will get the same splash as the host. A pic/havoc will never beat a arty by itself if the driver has a tech, and no your not likely gonna kill him from range cause he can just hide. Its like a med can never lose to a light if it has a hotwire.

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For the attention of Clan FUD [message #90768] Sat, 29 May 2004 07:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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spoonyrat

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I hope your refering to your own commentary, because you have generally no idea what you're talking about.


It's pretty obvious I understand the way tank weaponry works a lot better than the FUD. It's OK, don't feel bad, we all go through a stage of not knowing what an artillery is capable of

Oh, and also your comment comes from someone whose clan site stated that a mammoth could destroy a building in fourteen seconds :rolleyes:


I think it's pretty obvious you're a moron. This wasn't meant to be the most l33t STRATAGIS NAD TIPS 4 WININ EVAR, it was meant to be a guide for people who have or have not played the game so that they know some basic info on what a vehicle/character can or cannot do. If I handled every possible situation that could arise, each character's section would be 10-15 pages long. I'm not going to do that, although we may go more in-depth on the map specific pages if we decide to do those.

The real question here: if you are so godly at this game, why are you reading a basic guide for it?


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For the attention of Clan FUD [message #90771] Sat, 29 May 2004 07:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote me where I said I was "godly"? I don't see the word "god" anywhere in MY name :rolleyes:

What was it you said the other week? Something like "I'm tired of players passing off misinformation as fact"? I'm just saying, given how wildly inaccurate your character info is (the Artillery anyway, I haven't really read the others thoroughly), it's a rather ironic condemnation
For the attention of Clan FUD [message #90772] Sat, 29 May 2004 07:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That term is implied, not stated.

spoonyrat

I can take any GDI ground vehicle with an arty ten times out of ten.



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For the attention of Clan FUD [message #90773] Sat, 29 May 2004 07:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Any good arty player can do that. But you're unlikely to see such players in public servers
For the attention of Clan FUD [message #90774] Sat, 29 May 2004 07:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you're saying that it's unlikely to see such players in public servers, why, pretell, are you reading and commenting on a guide designed to inform said players?


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For the attention of Clan FUD [message #90775] Sat, 29 May 2004 07:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Because, like DeathGod, I'm tired of people passing off misinformation as fact.

Reminds me of the Pits forum when they said an arty shell doing more than 55 damage was reason to think I cheated.
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There is no misinformation. Just because you say there is, doesn't mean that it exists. Also, throwing hypothetical situations such as your technician senario doesn't change the fact that a Havoc or PIC could quite easily destory an artillery in a pinch.


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Do you mind editing that so it's comprehensible?
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It is comprehensible.


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