| "Flickering Fairies" [message #88329] |
Tue, 18 May 2004 07:00   |
spoonyrat
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Location: England
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You're all wrong. If I were to write, for example, an important letter, I would pay particular attention to grammar and punctuation.
But this is a computer game forum. And at no part in the Renegade manual did I see a requirement for a high grade in English.
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| "Flickering Fairies" [message #88330] |
Tue, 18 May 2004 07:06 |
KIRBY098
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| spoonyrat |
You're all wrong. If I were to write, for example, an important letter, I would pay particular attention to grammar and punctuation.
But this is a computer game forum. And at no part in the Renegade manual did I see a requirement for a high grade in English.
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The manner in which one presents oneself is the manner in which others should hold you in regard, and judge your intellect. I think that Jonathan knows this, and it's why he chooses to type correctly, and use proper sentence structure. Death is right, and any intelligent person knows it.
Now, with that being said, stay on topic folks.
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| "Flickering Fairies" [message #88336] |
Tue, 18 May 2004 07:48 |
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m1a1_abrams
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I disagree, I say that's elitist nonsense... "my words are better than your words, even though everyone understands them both the same". Language was and should still be a tool for communicating ideas, so the form shouldn't matter as long as it's serving it's intended purpose. Standards are generally a good thing, but there's no need to enforce them strictly unless communication is breaking down.
Also, language is always changing regardless of how much a few obsessives try to stop it from happening, and the fact of the matter is that lots of "incorrect" forms of speech/writing are more widely understood than the "correct" alternatives. In this case it makes absolutely no sense to hang on to archaic language if less people will understand you.
What I find particularly saddening is the idea that you would hold someone in less regard because of the way that they speak, or type. Shouldn't it be someone's actions that determines how much you respect them, not their outward appearance? And the concept of judging people's intelligence by their language is ridiculous, because things like spelling and grammar are nothing more than exercises in memory.
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| "Flickering Fairies" [message #88338] |
Tue, 18 May 2004 07:56 |
mahkra
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Looking at the fact that he got his point across with "Your an idiot," and it was perfectly legible... I can only believe that you're contradicting yourself.
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And what's so special about being able to TYPE legibly? All that means is that you can actually read the letters...
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| "Flickering Fairies" [message #88344] |
Tue, 18 May 2004 08:55 |
spoonyrat
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Maybe correct grammar and spelling is a mark of intelligence. But criticising others' grammar and spelling is a mark of needing to get out and about a bit more
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| "Flickering Fairies" [message #88347] |
Tue, 18 May 2004 09:08 |
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Deathgod
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Location: The House of B
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Not really. If Einstien attempted to speak Indian, you think bad grammar in that makes him unintelligent? It just means he's ignorant when it concerns that language, not that he's an idiot.
With your example, you say two different things. You say grammar is one factor in how you're going to judge others, and you say that communicating properly is another way to judge their intelligence.
Looking at the fact that he got his point across with "Your an idiot," and it was perfectly legible... I can only believe that you're contradicting yourself.
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No, grammar and communication on a text-based forum such as this are one and the same. As others have pointed out, you don't have much of an argument here. There was no contradiction, nor will there be unless I magically change my post. Legibility is a completely different issue... someone could type in l33tspeak to me and I could understand it perfectly well, but I'd still think less of that person because they choose to present their info in a format that doesn't particularly lend itself to comprehension.
As I said before, if you can't be bothered to properly present your point, don't present it at all.
Getting back on topic, isn't the flicker a netcode issue? Unless BHS is going to be making tighter netcode (which might just be the sweetest fix possible), that's going to be tough to do. However, if you're planning on working on that I applaud you in advance.
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| "Flickering Fairies" [message #88355] |
Tue, 18 May 2004 10:38 |
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Crimson
Messages: 7429
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When you host a game non-dedicated, the snipers don't flicker. I don't think it's lag. I think it's some sort of miscommunication with the client and the server. Either way it's always something we can explore and try to figure out.
As for the rest of the crap in this thread, knock it off and stay on topic.
I'm the bawss.
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| "Flickering Fairies" [message #88358] |
Tue, 18 May 2004 10:42 |
Pavla
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hahaha.. i think ack has been sniped to much in his younger years, he wants a:the snipers be less strong b:the flickering removed, i'd say.. make the fixes in bhstudio's maps and we'll see
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| "Flickering Fairies" [message #88397] |
Tue, 18 May 2004 12:32 |
Homey
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Location: Canada
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Its not that hard to hit someone who flickers in a server with a nice nur, just aim in the middle. The only thing i dont like about it is the people that pop and shoot all the time. I don't see a problem with it being fixed, after hosting a lot of games you get used to it and still miss :/
Homey
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| "Flickering Fairies" [message #88615] |
Wed, 19 May 2004 07:38 |
flyingfox
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Apart from the fact that it's a bug, attempt to think the reasoning behind it.
You're a sniper. You're in the field. You see 2 soldiers and an officer coming at you from across a bridge. You can't retreat. You have 2 options:
1) Have the speed advantage, but the accuracy disadvantage, and attack while moving and not in scope mode, in an attempt to evade fire.
2) Sacrifice speed for accuracy, and hope that by using your scope, you can accurately hit the soldiers before they kill you. You realise that, while in scope mode, you can only move slowly (since if you actually moved fast your aim would go haywire) but you take the risk anyway.
You could always try option 3).... play Renegade, where you can move incredibly fast AND have an accuracy advantage, where moving fast somehow doesn't make you completely inaccurate in scope mode. But of course, you're Neo, you can do that. Does this seem fair? It's obviously a bug, and the people who get it worst are the non-snipers who can't just "hit in the middle of the flicker".
Some folk use the flicker bug deliberately to give them this advantage, too. This is completely wrong.
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| "Flickering Fairies" [message #88641] |
Wed, 19 May 2004 09:40 |
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Crimson
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Yes, I agree that we're used to snipers being flickering fairies... but no other game in the world lets you flicker and flit about like you're Neo while you're a sniper. Maybe if surviving as a sniper took a little more skill, less of them would be using their n00b cannons on aircraft in the first place?
I'm the bawss.
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