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Renegade Alert 600 Meter View Distance Upgrade [message #83947] Wed, 28 April 2004 05:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Maybe he just likes to share his knowledge.

"But if the gameplay sucks, the looks don't matter at all." - Sir Phoenixx

Renegade Alert 600 Meter View Distance Upgrade [message #83949] Wed, 28 April 2004 05:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Silent Kane

Just steal our stuff you n00b.


How did he "steal" anything? Seems to me he went through the same stuff you did to get it.


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Renegade Alert 600 Meter View Distance Upgrade [message #83952] Wed, 28 April 2004 05:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I wonder.. if you wanted the view distance to be 750 meters, what the value would be? 1644 is 600 meters.
Renegade Alert 600 Meter View Distance Upgrade [message #83964] Wed, 28 April 2004 07:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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700.000 would be 00 00 2F 44

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Renegade Alert 600 Meter View Distance Upgrade [message #83994] Wed, 28 April 2004 10:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Silent Kane

Just steal our stuff you n00b.


How did he "steal" anything? Seems to me he went through the same stuff you did to get it.


Im thinking the same thing. furthermore, why didn't you post it yourself kane? isnt this MOD FORUM/community supposed to be about sharing your knowledge so other people can make cooler/better mods?

Why put a fresh, juicy steak just out of range of a caged lion?

"Look what we have, it's very usefull and great. Too bad you'll never do it cuz i'm only hear to gloat about my finding not share it". All my last comments only apply to your "steal our stuff" comment. You have been an incredibly good asset to the mod community please dont turn into this "other guy" that we all know about. Basicly "SHARE SHARE OMG!!!111ONE!ONE WE R NEEDZ 2 LEARN 2!!111"

Not flaming or w/e, just my op. No matter how u respond i still appreciate all you have done and will do Very Happy


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Renegade Alert 600 Meter View Distance Upgrade [message #83996] Wed, 28 April 2004 10:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jonwil

700.000 would be 00 00 2F 44


That's strange, isn't 700 in hex 2BC or something?
Renegade Alert 600 Meter View Distance Upgrade [message #84006] Wed, 28 April 2004 11:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yea normal hex value, but since the hex use the ieee single on 8 digits , it use a different algorithm.


also we usualy read/write it like that: 44 2f 00 00

but since how the memory work, it read the code in the inverted way.. so thats why the value its inverted: 00 00 2f 44 Wink


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Renegade Alert 600 Meter View Distance Upgrade [message #84023] Wed, 28 April 2004 12:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I tried 600 meters view in reborn... fucking cool Very Happy
Renegade Alert 600 Meter View Distance Upgrade [message #84044] Wed, 28 April 2004 13:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Silent Kane

Just steal our stuff you n00b.


What made it yours in the first place. :rolleyes:
Renegade Alert 600 Meter View Distance Upgrade [message #84054] Wed, 28 April 2004 14:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The fact that he was the first one to find this and successfully implement it into Renegade Alert?
Renegade Alert 600 Meter View Distance Upgrade [message #84055] Wed, 28 April 2004 14:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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AK, you're the one who is always bitching about how nobody does any work because they want everyone to kiss there asses. They figured it out on there own with no help from SK or anyone else, yet SK says it's "his."

Don't start acting like hypocrites.


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Renegade Alert 600 Meter View Distance Upgrade [message #84059] Wed, 28 April 2004 14:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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WTF? I answered his question, he says "what makes it his?"

The fact that he found the variable first, along with some other stuff, is what makes it his work.

No one would have tried for this had I not pushed SK to find the issue in game.exe and fix it, it wasn't until this thread was made that the "knowledge" was finally discovered.

That still constitutes laziness.
Renegade Alert 600 Meter View Distance Upgrade [message #84092] Wed, 28 April 2004 17:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The other people did the all the work he did to find it. It wasn't handed to them. So, I'm still not seeing how it's his. That's like saying "Renalert is property of Reborn because we started the first total conversion."

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Renegade Alert 600 Meter View Distance Upgrade [message #84095] Wed, 28 April 2004 17:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Common sense would have told you, that once you posted that there is a way to change the Viewing Distance, that others in the community would try to figure out how it was done.
Renegade Alert 600 Meter View Distance Upgrade [message #84096] Wed, 28 April 2004 17:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Reborn didn't start the first TC, it started off as a simple Tiberium Harvester and THEN they decided to try to turn it into a conversion after we announced we'd be releasing as a separate game from Renegade.

The idea was handed to the people who worked on this. Don't get me wrong here, I have the utmost respect for SomeRhino, but I never saw him do anything about the viewing distance until RA did.

Which isn't necessarily bad, he's done a lot of good work. I'm mainly referring to the others here who want to pawn off what we're doing and have done.
Renegade Alert 600 Meter View Distance Upgrade [message #84098] Wed, 28 April 2004 17:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller

Reborn didn't start the first TC, it started off as a simple Tiberium Harvester and THEN they decided to try to turn it into a conversion after we announced we'd be releasing as a separate game from Renegade.


It was an anology. I'm not sure if it was accurate.

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The idea was handed to the people who worked on this. Don't get me wrong here, I have the utmost respect for SomeRhino, but I never saw him do anything about the viewing distance until RA did.


Most likely because he wanted to figure out how it's done and implement it in SS. Think of it as a complement.

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Which isn't necessarily bad, he's done a lot of good work. I'm mainly referring to the others here who want to pawn off what we're doing and have done.


Even if that want to pawn off of what you've done, they can't. They'll have to figure it out themselves.


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Renegade Alert 600 Meter View Distance Upgrade [message #84100] Wed, 28 April 2004 18:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I know it was a comparison.

I don't care if SR wants to use it in his mod. He's more than welcome to.

The rest of them haven't really done anything to earn the right to get a better looking game when they haven't done anything for it.
Renegade Alert 600 Meter View Distance Upgrade [message #84131] Thu, 29 April 2004 02:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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anyway, thx for the idea ACK. It is a really good idea. ( fucking excellent new feature ! )
Renegade Alert 600 Meter View Distance Upgrade [message #84166] Thu, 29 April 2004 08:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller

The rest of them haven't really done anything to earn the right to get a better looking game when they haven't done anything for it.


Ummmm, you guys didn't say how to do it, and exe files aren't completely plain text. The fact that you guys did is amazing, and yes SK does deserve to be known as the first to do it. That does not mean, however, that others do not deserve to have it for "not doing anything for it" when they had to figure it out on their own.

Game.exe is what, 5MB? That's quite a lot to dig through to find one little value. SK did a great job, but I don't think that means that Reborn and other mods can't do it just because SK did it first, and StoneRook figured it out and posted it.

I guess this does mean, however, that you yourself shouldn't try to figure out SeaMan's blood effect and use it since he made it first, if they can't use the exe edit.
Renegade Alert 600 Meter View Distance Upgrade [message #84181] Thu, 29 April 2004 10:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ah well, I don't care. I know enough stuff that can be changed than all j00 n00bs. (max vehicle count as example.)

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Renegade Alert 600 Meter View Distance Upgrade [message #84196] Thu, 29 April 2004 11:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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*whispers some stuff about new world order into SK's ear and hands him an envolope* Wink

Actually I wouldn't be too surprised if you could. And I must say you did a good job, trying to dig through the exe to find those values has to be a bit of a nightmare.
Renegade Alert 600 Meter View Distance Upgrade [message #84199] Thu, 29 April 2004 11:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It isn't actually. Average 30 minutes to find new stuff. Distance took 5 minutes. Custom console commands a few days.

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Renegade Alert 600 Meter View Distance Upgrade [message #84204] Thu, 29 April 2004 12:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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TheKGBspy

yea normal hex value, but since the hex use the ieee single on 8 digits , it use a different algorithm.


also we usualy read/write it like that: 44 2f 00 00

but since how the memory work, it read the code in the inverted way.. so thats why the value its inverted: 00 00 2f 44 Wink


Ah... I get it now Smile

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Renegade Alert 600 Meter View Distance Upgrade [message #84206] Thu, 29 April 2004 12:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Silent Kane

It isn't actually. Average 30 minutes to find new stuff. Distance took 5 minutes. Custom console commands a few days.


Ah. Ok, maybe I'm just utterly brainless when it comes to hex stuff then.
Renegade Alert 600 Meter View Distance Upgrade [message #84233] Thu, 29 April 2004 14:39 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Took you long enough to figure out that most 3d related values are floats, SeaMan.

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