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Scary Stuff [message #73386] Tue, 23 March 2004 05:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
NHJ BV is currently offline  NHJ BV
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Obtaining of any of that so-called "savior oil" won't do much good other than prolong the inevitible. Just watch and see: People will BEGIN to realize there is an issue, then when another source of oil is found to sustain them for 10 more years, they won't go apeshit over trying to find alternatives until the last minute... again.


You're right about that, I'm just saying that there's still quite some fossil fuels for the next while. I completely agree that reneweable energy sources should be looked into and developed (further).

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Read the article again: He says that coal gives off way too much pollution to be used on a grander world-wide scale. If coal could be refined NOT to give off as much pollution, well, who knows.


Coal-based powerplants are, just like solar energy, slowly being made more efficient. Coal still pollutes a heck of a lot, but I think the world has no other choice than to use coal energy on a large scale when oil is no more, because reneweable energy can't possibly comply with the world's growing energy demands anytime soon. Nuclear energy might be a solution, but many people (myself somewhat included) have reservations about that.

Nuclear fission, however, could be the energy source of the future, as it produces less nuclear waste than regular nuclear powerplants (nuclear splitting, or what's it called). Scientists have already succeeded in a 0% output, which is more than a negative value (meaning process doesn't actually cost power anymore, now input and output are the same). If they could succeed in actualy getting power out of it, then it could prove very useful.
Scary Stuff [message #74219] Sat, 27 March 2004 17:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nuclear fission is the splitting of atoms; fusion is when atoms gain neutrons and become a heavier isotope, so in the way it's the opposite of fission. Which do you mean?

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Scary Stuff [message #74786] Tue, 30 March 2004 01:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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He meant Nuclear Fusion but Nuclear Fusion requires a high temperature for it to work. It takes about 35k degrees celsius for Nuclear Fusion to work unless Cold Fusion technology is available.
oil [message #81404] Sun, 18 April 2004 07:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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scientist have been wrong on many things look how some people say we are running out of forests but the percentages are still higher then they ever have been. I served in Iraq and just came back recently and i dont ever remember pumping for oil. I remember going after guys that are willing to kill americans. There are alot of them out there. So to all of you that want to attack my commander and chief. You should server your time in the military and watch your buddies die next to you. All of them were willing to make America safe for there friends and family. while you guys worry on wether we are taking there oil or not. The united States did the right thing trust me, but i can promise you this. Sure we might get money or even oil from them but economicaly right now we are supporting that country. In the village i was in, in iraq your government forked a million dollars a month into. you want to know the population of that village. It was small. small enough we might not even consider it a small town and give it a post office. Trust me america has bigger problems then just oil. we have reserves of it in alaska that tree huggers wont let us tap. Well thats my view point on the matter take it or leave it.
Scary Stuff [message #81479] Sun, 18 April 2004 11:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Taking Iraq's oil is irrelivant. The fact remains that oil is a non-renewable resource that we are just twidling away. We are so reliant on oil that when it does run out, we won't have a contingincy plan; and THAT is the issue.


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Scary Stuff [message #81523] Sun, 18 April 2004 17:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oil may not be such a massive problem for transportation as it seems- alternative fuels that can use similar/the same engines are already a possibility.

Certain alcohols can be used in most of the cars on the road today...that is, if you convert a few of the hoses to different materials(metal tubing rather than rubber hoses). Much cleaner, more efficient energy, and easy to produce- anyone and their mother in law can make moonshine. Wink

Hydrogen, also, could be used, with a few alterations in car design- either in fuel cells or internal combustion. That has the added bonus of being storable in much greater quantities and in much smaller tanks, since it is in gas form. The big problem with that is you need electricity to separate water molecules, since water is pretty much our only source of hydrogen.


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Scary Stuff [message #81576] Sun, 18 April 2004 22:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Man, alternative solutions are only being held back by the oil men.

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Scary Stuff [message #81598] Mon, 19 April 2004 05:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't know if this oil might work, I read up on palm oil (learnt that on my Pure Geography lessons) and found out that palm oil has a market in petroleum and this makes me wonder that maybe palm oil, one day, could totally replace crude oil. Confused
Scary Stuff [message #81657] Mon, 19 April 2004 12:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
NukeIt15 is currently offline  NukeIt15
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Money= Power, and oil companies have large quantities of both.

I'll bet anyone in here $50 that every oil company on the globe already has a backup plan for when the petroleum runs out. Until that happens, they want people buying oil- supply and demand. The less there is, the more people will pay for it. Thus, the oil companies make more money as their supply of oil gets smaller and smaller. Until, of course, there isn't any left, at which point they'll turn to alternative fuel sources that can be controlled and limited. Since, like I said, any dumb inbred moron can brew up some alcohol, they'll probably go to hydrogen instead, since not as many people can produce that themselves.


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Scary Stuff [message #81659] Mon, 19 April 2004 12:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Why are people trying so hard to save a world which has already been doomed to destruction?

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Scary Stuff [message #81945] Tue, 20 April 2004 16:12 Go to previous message
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Quite possibly because no one on the planet right now will be alive in several billion years, when the sun goes into its red giant phase.
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No need to bring religion into a discussion about the aftermath of a worldwide oil crisis, is there?


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