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Good site for those of you against mindless slaughter [message #7581] Wed, 19 March 2003 00:28 Go to next message
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http://www.axisofjustice.org/

Tom Morello...ex-guitarist of Rage Against the Machine...Yale graduate...I guess he's stupid too though...aren't all people that go to Yale?


I dont care if you write me a letter
I dont care what you say to me no more
All I got is trash left at my door
What you have dont worry me, worry me now more
- Calvin Baty, Craving Theo

What have I become?
My sweetest friend
Everyone I know
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You could have it all
My empire of dirt
I will let you down
I will make you hurt
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Good site for those of you against mindless slaughter [message #7583] Wed, 19 March 2003 00:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, let's start down this path you idiot. There intellectuals on both sides of the argument, and the guitarist for Rage carries no credibilty to speak on anything other than the billboard top 40.

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Good site for those of you against mindless slaughter [message #7590] Wed, 19 March 2003 01:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And everyone that was against vietnam...and has ever been against any war

I dont care if you write me a letter
I dont care what you say to me no more
All I got is trash left at my door
What you have dont worry me, worry me now more
- Calvin Baty, Craving Theo

What have I become?
My sweetest friend
Everyone I know
Goes away in the end
You could have it all
My empire of dirt
I will let you down
I will make you hurt
- Trent Reznor, NIN
Good site for those of you against mindless slaughter [message #7591] Wed, 19 March 2003 01:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I knew what this would be about but I came anyways...People against mindless slaughter should logiclly be against Saddam. This site seems to fall under the 'Anti-American/Anti-Israel' umbrela. Wanna hear an interesting fact about 'Palestine' ? It doesn't exist. Try and find it on a map, try and find it 'constitution' or 'declaration of independence' online. Do a little research and find that area hasn't been called Palestine since the days of Jesus. Go do a little research on the history of Israel & the natives who refer to themselves as people of Palestine. I know you have a brain, I just wish you'd use it properly.

<-- Notices you lean on other people for authoritive backing of your views.
If your going to play the 'authority' game I'd suggest a better authority.

Did you know....None of the 'anti-war' signs on TV/in the news refer to Saddam disarming. The signs refer to Bush as the ruthless dictator, this defies all logic.

Try addressing the CAUSE instead of the EFFECT.
cause:Saddam will not do what the UN told him to do & the UN cant get its tail from between its legs
effect:the U.S.A. has to play 'daddy', again.

Fact : Bill Clinton bombed Serbia for around 80 straight days w/o UN approval...

When the bombs say 'Democrat' tis ok....

I suspect this thread will be locked or become part of the Silo soon so there are my two cents.


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And everyone that was against vietnam...and has ever been against any war


What makes his voice in the darkness any louder than mine? The fact that he's "cool"? Typical highschool kid mindset.


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what makes his voice louder than yours is that:

1) he has a brain...which is something you have proved in almost every post of yours that you DO NOT HAVE

2) he is a Yale graduate that got in by his own merits. He got in and out before he became a musician...he didn't get his daddy to get him in.

3) you lack the ability to see this in any other view than black and white. There are alternatives to war.


I dont care if you write me a letter
I dont care what you say to me no more
All I got is trash left at my door
What you have dont worry me, worry me now more
- Calvin Baty, Craving Theo

What have I become?
My sweetest friend
Everyone I know
Goes away in the end
You could have it all
My empire of dirt
I will let you down
I will make you hurt
- Trent Reznor, NIN
Good site for those of you against mindless slaughter [message #7600] Wed, 19 March 2003 01:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Duke of Nukes

what makes his voice louder than yours is that:

1) he has a brain...which is something you have proved in almost every post of yours that you DO NOT HAVE

2) he is a Yale graduate that got in by his own merits. He got in and out before he became a musician...he didn't get his daddy to get him in.

3) you lack the ability to see this in any other view than black and white. There are alternatives to war.


You seem to be full of opinions but a touch lacking in the 'FACT' department. You see facts exists in black & white. Facts are not subject to opinion because they are FACTS. To cure continued confusion consult the dictionary for 'fact' & 'opinion'. It's not like the rest of the world has been blindfolded for the past 20years and dont know the kind of things Saddam has been doing.


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Good site for those of you against mindless slaughter [message #7604] Wed, 19 March 2003 01:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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facts? what facts? the facts that Iraq hasn't done anything? Your "facts" are merely assumptions. assumptions are opinions. the FACT is that we dont have to go to war. the FACT is that Bush is a known liar about such issues.

a little off topic here...but it's a FACT that Bush has waved to the worlds most famous blind person. That means he's either a moron...or he has a sick and twisted sense of humor.

But seriously...tell me what FACT's you have that say we HAVE to go to war? That there aren't other ways of avoiding killing thousands of innocents?


I dont care if you write me a letter
I dont care what you say to me no more
All I got is trash left at my door
What you have dont worry me, worry me now more
- Calvin Baty, Craving Theo

What have I become?
My sweetest friend
Everyone I know
Goes away in the end
You could have it all
My empire of dirt
I will let you down
I will make you hurt
- Trent Reznor, NIN
Good site for those of you against mindless slaughter [message #7607] Wed, 19 March 2003 01:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Duke of Nukes

what makes his voice louder than yours is that:

1) he has a brain...which is something you have proved in almost every post of yours that you DO NOT HAVE

2) he is a Yale graduate that got in by his own merits. He got in and out before he became a musician...he didn't get his daddy to get him in.

3) you lack the ability to see this in any other view than black and white. There are alternatives to war.



1. Maybee, but I can find Vietnam on a map, unlike yourself.

2. Is he the only one to ever make it in the world? Whoopee.....he's a Yale graduate. So are about 2,000,000 other people. Do all of them not support the war? Idiot.

3. Black and white gets things done, and keeps us alive as a nation. Grey puts you right in Vichy France in 1940.


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1. Maybee, but I can find Vietnam on a map, unlike yourself.

2. Is he the only one to ever make it in the world? Whoopee.....he's a Yale graduate. So are about 2,000,000 other people. Do all of them not support the war? Idiot.

3. Black and white gets things done, and keeps us alive as a nation. Grey puts you right in Vichy France in 1940.


1. Yes...it's really mature to keep pointing out a mistake that I made in 1 post.

2. No he isn't the only one to graduate from Yale and I'm sure plenty of them are for the war. Introduce me to one and I'd love to hear their opinions.

3. Black and white puts us in Korea and Vietnam. It puts us saying "Fuck Iraq" and nuking the country...as president Bush has threatened Saddam with. Grey puts us in the liberation of India, ending the opression of an entire nation


I dont care if you write me a letter
I dont care what you say to me no more
All I got is trash left at my door
What you have dont worry me, worry me now more
- Calvin Baty, Craving Theo

What have I become?
My sweetest friend
Everyone I know
Goes away in the end
You could have it all
My empire of dirt
I will let you down
I will make you hurt
- Trent Reznor, NIN
Good site for those of you against mindless slaughter [message #7613] Wed, 19 March 2003 01:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Duke of Nukes

what makes his voice louder than yours is that:

1) he has a brain...which is something you have proved in almost every post of yours that you DO NOT HAVE

2) he is a Yale graduate that got in by his own merits. He got in and out before he became a musician...he didn't get his daddy to get him in.

3) you lack the ability to see this in any other view than black and white. There are alternatives to war.


This is what happens when you let the Teachers Union get too powerful. Our children loose the ability to make their own decisions. Don't argue it either Duke. I fought the school system on this when I was a senior in high school The Teachers Union tells young adults how they should vote. I actually got kicked out of a class once for speaking my mind against Democrats. I was labled as disruptive. Duke learn to make your own choices. Your argument sounds so programed that you don't even understand what the heck your talking about.


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facts? what facts? the facts that Iraq hasn't done anything? Your "facts" are merely assumptions. assumptions are opinions. the FACT is that we dont have to go to war. the FACT is that Bush is a known liar about such issues.

a little off topic here...but it's a FACT that Bush has waved to the worlds most famous blind person. That means he's either a moron...or he has a sick and twisted sense of humor.

But seriously...tell me what FACT's you have that say we HAVE to go to war? That there aren't other ways of avoiding killing thousands of innocents?


You should quit while you're behind. The sheer ignorance displayed in your posts reminds me of screaming women going "FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!"

Iraq hasn't done anything, right? That's why they've defied the United Nations for twelve years? Or the fact that Hussien pays the families of suicide bombers each time they blow someone up? Or how he gassed his own citizens with chemical warheads? Hmm, what about where Iraq set fire to the Kuwaiti oil fields and spilled oil into the Persian Gulf as they retreated from Kuwait? Right, they've done nothing... Nothing that the UN has asked of them.

Yeah, it's a fact that Bush waved to him. Ever think it was just a lighthearted joke? Ever think that your insertion of an irrevelant fact in your argument showed that you depend on "Bush is a moron without any proof!" to argue? Go back to debate club, mvz... You need to brush up before even thinking about arguing over geopolitical incidents.

I laid out the facts to why we need to go to war... So where's your real facts against it?
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3. Black and white puts us in Korea and Vietnam. It puts us saying "Fuck Iraq" and nuking the country...as president Bush has threatened Saddam with. Grey puts us in the liberation of India, ending the opression of an entire nation



When we drop a nuclear weapon on Iraq, then you can make this case. Anything else is pure guessing, and speculation.


Tip for the day: Don't join your highschool debate team.


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that stuff was done over 10 years ago. What has he done since. He's restricted UN inspectors 2 times...both times he took off the restrictions within a matter of months. That's like saying I'm a violent person because I got into a few fights when I was younger. Everything else your saying is an assumption.

Waving to a blind man as a joke is extremely sick. He's either a moron...or is a sick man. Heck...I'll even let you decide which is the case

If this sounds programmed...then good...that makes everyone in this discussion.

"I'm an ex military man, FUCK THE PACIFISTS"


I dont care if you write me a letter
I dont care what you say to me no more
All I got is trash left at my door
What you have dont worry me, worry me now more
- Calvin Baty, Craving Theo

What have I become?
My sweetest friend
Everyone I know
Goes away in the end
You could have it all
My empire of dirt
I will let you down
I will make you hurt
- Trent Reznor, NIN
Good site for those of you against mindless slaughter [message #7631] Wed, 19 March 2003 02:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Duke of Nukes

facts? what facts? the facts that Iraq hasn't done anything? Your "facts" are merely assumptions. assumptions are opinions. the FACT is that we dont have to go to war. the FACT is that Bush is a known liar about such issues.

a little off topic here...but it's a FACT that Bush has waved to the worlds most famous blind person. That means he's either a moron...or he has a sick and twisted sense of humor.

But seriously...tell me what FACT's you have that say we HAVE to go to war? That there aren't other ways of avoiding killing thousands of innocents?


Your seriously fucking retarded. Organize your rebuttles. Why not mention Bush ones ran a red light from a dead stop to 'prove' he is a moron. Saddam holds the reigns on what has to happen in order for him to disarm. Last night Bush told him 'get the fuck out SOON or - toast.' Are you forgetting that if anyone will be inducing civilian casualities here it will be SADDAM ? Perhaps you overlooked that. Fuck it, lets chill for a few more oh dozen years and PERHAPS when SADDAM has TWENTY FOUR years he'll disarm like we TOLD him to. Or he could sell a nuclear weapon to Hammas who could inturn bomb Isreal fucking-homicide-bomber style. But hey fuck the Israelis anyways, right ?

Iraq hasn't done anything...are you joking ? The mass media has surpressed video of the things Saddam does. It has been shown on tv (The Michael Savage show) but everyone else keeps it hush hush for unknown reasons. Lets try this one...I'm sure humanitarian(sp?) groups have no issues with the rape of women in front of their husbands. Or the murdering of civilians by 'processing' them through machines designed to destroy plastics. Or the public embarassment of women by hanging them by their hair during their 'special time' of the month. Or the gassing of thousands of civilans. Or the recent plot to dress HIS toops up as BRITIAN and the USA then have them attack his OWN PEOPLE so he can claim things like war crimes (he already has the gear). The list literally goes on and on..and I haven't even touched on weapons of mass descruction or agression...

I must of dreamed all that shit huh ?


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that stuff was done over 10 years ago. What has he done since. He's restricted UN inspectors 2 times...both times he took off the restrictions within a matter of months. That's like saying I'm a violent person because I got into a few fights when I was younger. Everything else your saying is an assumption.

Waving to a blind man as a joke is extremely sick. He's either a moron...or is a sick man. Heck...I'll even let you decide which is the case

If this sounds programmed...then good...that makes everyone in this discussion.

"I'm an ex military man, FUCK THE PACIFISTS"


Hmm,. Let me think here... Why would Saddam restrict inspectors on 2 occasions just to lift the restrictions a few months later on each?

OH YEAH!! I KNOW WHY!! To hide his weapons of mass destruction. He didn't lift restrictions because he felt bad, or that he did the wrong thing. He lifted the restrictions because he relocated his weapons. Are you that stupid that you couldn't figure that out on your own? :rolleyes:


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I suspect this thread will be locked or become part of the Silo soon so there are my two cents.


You are forgetting the moderators here aren't Nazis like the EA mods were. I see nothing wrong with a debate, or even a heated debate. Just as long as it stays intellectual and doesn't degrade into spam posts and name calling or anything that affects the forums performance.

Debate at will Smile


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I'm not even bothering with the two of those. There are alternatives to war...whether or not Saddam is evil isn't the issue...it's whether or not we should go to war about it.

I dont care if you write me a letter
I dont care what you say to me no more
All I got is trash left at my door
What you have dont worry me, worry me now more
- Calvin Baty, Craving Theo

What have I become?
My sweetest friend
Everyone I know
Goes away in the end
You could have it all
My empire of dirt
I will let you down
I will make you hurt
- Trent Reznor, NIN
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I'm not even bothering with the two of those. There are alternatives to war...whether or not Saddam is evil isn't the issue...it's whether or not we should go to war about it.

No the reason you won't bother with these two are because you can't argue against them.


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No...they are IRRELIVANT. They have nothing to do with the discussion at hand, which is whether or not his crimes are worthy of us going to war AGAIN at this time.
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I suspect this thread will be locked or become part of the Silo soon so there are my two cents.


You are forgetting the moderators here aren't Nazis like the EA mods were. I see nothing wrong with a debate, or even a heated debate. Just as long as it stays intellectual and doesn't degrade into spam posts and name calling or anything that affects the forums performance.

Debate at will Smile


YEA ! I wasn't saying that because I feel yall are nAZIS but because I could easily see this turning into a flame fest.


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You got 0wnt, deal with it.


Ditto. You aren't even responding to my post nemore...aww I feel so rejected. Razz


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if you must know...my computer froze because I was running too many programs at one time...thanks for caring though
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No...they are IRRELIVANT. They have nothing to do with the discussion at hand, which is whether or not his crimes are worthy of us going to war AGAIN at this time.


his crimes are worthy of going to war. if we wait another 12 years, that would mean that my children will be having to fight a war which should have been taken care of 12 years ago. it's bad enough that men and women who were 6 when this started are now having to go fight because we caved to the un and allowed him to stay in power.
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