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K9Trooper is currently offline  K9Trooper
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What a dumbass.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,113882,00.html

Already the Democraps are starting the negitave campaigning and mud slinging. I always felt the one who throws more "mud" is more crooked than the other. I wish the Republicans would be more agressive.

Kerry's comments are way out of line.


R.I.P. TreyD. You will be missed, but not forgotten.
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k9, eat my ass with a spoon u little kock mouth!
ure the guy from EoE
i want to play ure weakass klan!
shrakk plays santa claus with small children!
ure klan is reely poor quality
Evo


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? ok..

Sorry to burst your bubble here, but your not one to talk about the quality of anything. I'm sure if the quality of your post were to improve, we for one would be able to understand what you just said.

back on topic..

I'd rather see a mud-slinging campaign (nothing out of the ordinary for American Politics) than seeing someone use tragic events to benifit themselves.
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EvoSnipe

k9, eat my ass with a spoon u little kock mouth!
ure the guy from EoE
i want to play ure weakass klan!
shrakk plays santa claus with small children!
ure klan is reely poor quality
Evo


Oh cry me a river you little baby. My 3 year old son has more maturity than you. Even better, my 1 year old daughter has more maturity than you.

BTW everyone, Evo was banned from EoE's servers because of cheats. If you want his IP to ban ask Shrakk to get it for you. I banned him from our forums for crap like this...

Back on topic...

Warranto,
Do you really think a Democrate wouldn't have done that if they were president? I for one felt that it showed how he kept his cool in a time when most would have folded. That's the kind of president we need. One who isn't afraid to take a stand. If this happened during Clintons time he would have done the same thing and played it like it was his saxiphone.


R.I.P. TreyD. You will be missed, but not forgotten.
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The Democrats act like such children... it sickens me. I don't blame Bush for having to fight back. If he didn't bother to defend himself over Kerry's outrageous and bold attacks, most of the idiot Americans who don't pay any damn attention will vote for the wrong person, then complain when they have to pay more taxes.

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K9, I'm not taking Democratic or Republican sides here. What I stated applies to both sides, regardless of who takes what action.
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I understand, but you know that if this happened in any presidents term they would have done the same thing. It is funny how they (the democrats) are the ones complaining about it and say it was innapropriate, yet they can go out and say the entire Republican Party is "Crooked". Now how innapropriate is that?

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Man, I wish both parties would actually try to hold a decent campaign; unfortunately mudslinging attracts more votes that a sensible argument.

They should put Bush and Kerry alone in a room and let them debate, then broadcast that live. No audience, just a camera and some other guy to watch over it.
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I think fists would flt instead of mud if we did that. Laughing

R.I.P. TreyD. You will be missed, but not forgotten.
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4 one do not even talk about maturity, u guys r so dense u would not hear me out! i dont cheat, you shouldnt be talking about goddamn politics on a RENEGADE forum, and u can still eat my ass
your daughter too
take that as immaturity, not wat i posted above, that was true
Regards,
Evo


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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Rest my case on your maturity. :rolleyes:

Read the title of the sub-forum dumbass. :rolleyes:


R.I.P. TreyD. You will be missed, but not forgotten.
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lol, he writes one of the lamest posts in history and then ends it with regards... Very Happy

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i dont think its very nice to talk about little children like that evo i think you should apologize for that one, its disgusting and very wrong. if you had a child (which you will most likely never, and if you do i pray for that child) i dont think you would want someone talkin about them like that.


about politics i am not able to vote so whatever, but i think mud slinging is stupid they should not focus on the flaws of there opponents, but there strengths. i know that it is hard to do that, but i would vote for anyone who could do that


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This is off topic but...
Can someone ban evosnipe already, all he does is talk about how great he is and never contributes anything useful.
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9/11 and the events thereafter is what defines the Bush presidency. Not the "bad" economy, not the supposed job crisis the Democrats have cooked up, but the War on Terror and 9/11. This president has shown he's not going to take any crap from anybody when it comes to national defense, so why shouldn't he be able to say so in his re-election campaign? People need to be reminded about the events on 9/11 that could very well happen again if John Kerry ever gets elected president. Which would you prefer, a president who has said he would go out and arrest terrorists when they threaten our country, or a president who has said he would seek and kill any terrorist that threatens our country's security? John Kerry wants to get a permission slip from the UN when it comes to nation defense; George Bush wants to find the fuckers who attacked us and blow them to hell. Now tell me, which president would you prefer?

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you shouldnt be talking about goddamn politics on a RENEGADE forum


Hey, guess what? I run these forums and I do not wish to limit anyone's discussions, so I created the "Hot Topics" forum for that purpose. If you don't want to have a part in these discussions, then DON'T VISIT THIS FORUM... go spend your time in the General forum or Tactics and Strategies.


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I gotta put a stop to this trash.

First, Kerry called Republicans crooked and all that because....dum dum da dum.....They have been during his campaign.

1) They made up that STUPID rumor about him having a girlfriend that NEVER had ANY merit behind it and was just a Republican tactic to get stupid people to side with them.

2) Republicans have gotten angry at Kerry for cutting defense by voting to take a billion dollars out of the intelligence budget. Only problems with this? First, the bill Kerry was voting for was to cut funding to a billion dollar satellite that didn't even work and never got off the ground after a billion dollars. Second, the bill was created by GEORGE BUSH SENIOR! Little hole there, wouldn't you say? Third, basically everyone voted for this bill because it was just a routine cleaning of the budget by cutting out things that don't have a deserving purpose, like the Comanche helicopter which was recently given the thumbs-down.

3) I reference you to http://www.bushwatch.com Have some fun looking at all that stuff.

4) Republicans get talking cards from Karl Rove's office regularly that tell them what to say to the press. Ever noticed how all Republicans always say the same thing? Now it's "Kerry owes America an apology for what he said." [At least something along those lines.]

5) Let's not forget Watergate, an actual [Note: Whitewater does not count as an actual scandal because it was not, actually, a scandal] scandal involving Nixon.

6) Al Gore and the internet. Al Gore was talking to reporters and said "I invented the internet." Now, Republicans would be quick to speak out against this because it's a lie [Actually, it really isn't.] while in fact it was a fairly legitimate claim. See, Gore was taking credit for a program that he championed and funded. He saw the value in ARPANET and stood behind it with funding. Then he took credit for it. It's what government people do. But here come the Republicans calling Gore a pathological liar to try and win more votes for Bush. And people believed them.

And now these same people [Republicans] are demanding an apology because Kerry made a fairly legitimate claim against them. What's wrong with these people. And why can't you all see past this? Oh, and I would like to point out that the starting point for this thread came from FOX news, probably the most biased news source in America.

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News flash:

Both Republicans and Democrats are crooked. Whether its Kerry's double-sided stance on everything, Bush's "compassionate conservatism", to the Not so Honorable Mr. I-should-be-in-jail-for-murder-but-am-in-the-senate.

Sorry I didn't provide any real facts or evidence. I just thought this has truth to it and is quite funny. I'll eventually make a post worth reading.....maybe. Razz


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I'm going to get it for saying this I'm sure, but if Bush is completely anti-terrorist as he claims to be (suggesting neutrality, not pro-terrorism here), why did he wait to be attacked before going out to get them, when terrorist activities can be viewed almost every day in other parts of the world?
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Also, why did he not act on the comprehensive anti-al Qaeda plan that Clinton passed on to him at the begininning of his term? A couple weeks before Clinton's term was over, one of his aides came to him with the final draft for a comprehensive plan to eliminate al Qaeda in many Middile Eastern countries. Bush never acted on this. Instead, he waits for September 11th, talks about it in almost everything he says, and launches a war over it to make it seem to the public like he's doing the best thing possible, when in reality he was very far from it.

I said more on this in that 475+ post thread.


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warranto

I'm going to get it for saying this I'm sure, but if Bush is completely anti-terrorist as he claims to be (suggesting neutrality, not pro-terrorism here), why did he wait to be attacked before going out to get them, when terrorist activities can be viewed almost every day in other parts of the world?


Because they made a viscious attack(s) on our (capitol) cities, which would dictate a more aggressive response than one from witnessing some random acts of terrorism commited by some overseas country against another that we don't give a rats ass about?

I see people break the law almost everyday, do I do anything about it? 99.9% of the time no. I don't have time to go and meddle in everyones afairs and try to save the world. But if someone breaks the law in my own backyard, they get the smackdown.
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The countires had the capabilities and desire to attack America (and other non-Arab peoples) prior to 9/11, yet nothing was done about it until it was too late (common sense, not the "faulty intelligence" that people blame). When the world, or at least seemingly Arab countries views America in such a bad light, Isolationist policies won't work. As well (past president, I know), supplying terrorists with training and funding to attack the enemy isn't a good idea either. It would have been prudent to start a defence once it's realized "hey, we trained this guy, now he hates us", rather than sit and do nothing while waiting for the attack. I'm not saying to go out and invade, or openly declare war on the terrorists, but act on the threat nonetheless.
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People can always go and say the information about the attacks was right there in front of their faces prior to the attacks but no one acted. Funny. Hindsight is always 20/20. I heard that the Clinton Administration may have had some information about the attacks but nothing is said about that.

If I had information saying that a terrorist attack was going to happen against the US by air. I would have never suspected that the planes would have originated from within our own borders. I would have suspected a last minute hijacking from a trans-atlantic flight, not a domestic. So even if they had information of a possible attack. How were they supose to act? I'm sure you have the answers now because it already happened. A person can always sound smart when they talk history, because it already happened and you can play "Monday Morning Quaterback". Look in to the future here for a second. What would you do to prevent further terrorist attacks and how would you stop each and every possible type of attack without further damaging the economy? (Which took a major hit on 9-11)

How would you prevent an attack method like a "Dirty Bomb" You know there is an attack possible, yet you don't know where or the exact date?

You get information that a major cities water supply is going to get attacked with ricen. Again what do you do? How are you going to determine the target city? Then how are you going to identify the suspects in time. They could very well be an employee of the Water Dpt.

Also remember, Oliver North testified to a Senate Arms Commitee about the Iran-Contra weapons scandel to Al Gore that he felt Bin Laden was the most dangerous person in the world and he needed to be taken out otherwise he will be a direct threat to the entire US. How come way back in the 80's we had this warning and evidence, yet there was no action? Why is there no hearing on that? If we would have acted back then there wouldn't have been an attack on the US and possible no al Queera. Remember that hindsight? There it is again.


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Well said K9. I think that everyone knows hindsight is 20/20, and nobody "really" blames the president for 9/11...however its just too easy to use it as a bashing tool to make lesser-minded people and followers jump on the bandwagon. When you ask these people what should have been done, as you just did, you just get the blank stare Smile
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4) Republicans get talking cards from Karl Rove's office regularly that tell them what to say to the press. Ever noticed how all Republicans always say the same thing? Now it's "Kerry owes America an apology for what he said." [At least something along those lines.]


And that's worse than the Democrats finding a couple 9/11 widows to read talking cards about Bush using 9/11 imagery in his ads? I think not.

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5) Let's not forget Watergate, an actual [Note: Whitewater does not count as an actual scandal because it was not, actually, a scandal] scandal involving Nixon.


So 18 felony counts and up to 3 years in prison for some of the principles... and it wasn't a scandal? Just because they weren't able to pin anything on "Teflon" Clinton, doesn't mean it wasn't a scandal.

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6) Al Gore and the internet. Al Gore was talking to reporters and said "I invented the internet." Now, Republicans would be quick to speak out against this because it's a lie [Actually, it really isn't.] while in fact it was a fairly legitimate claim. See, Gore was taking credit for a program that he championed and funded. He saw the value in ARPANET and stood behind it with funding. Then he took credit for it. It's what government people do. But here come the Republicans calling Gore a pathological liar to try and win more votes for Bush. And people believed them.


INVENTING something and championing the funding for something are QUITE different things! If I invent a robot that cleans your house, and some rich guy gives me $10 million to improve it and market it and produce it, that doesn't mean the rich dude can claim he invented it. It's really two completely different things, inventing and funding, and Gore had no rights to make the "invented" claim.

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And now these same people [Republicans] are demanding an apology because Kerry made a fairly legitimate claim against them. What's wrong with these people. And why can't you all see past this? Oh, and I would like to point out that the starting point for this thread came from FOX news, probably the most biased news source in America.


I believe CNN to be far more biased than Fox. Just yesterday I found an article via the Drudge report that the woman recently arrested for spying for Iraq worked for 3 or 4 Democrat politicians, including Carol Moseley Braun, back in the early 90's during the first Gulf War. CNN puts that same article Under the "US News" subheading and doesn't even give it top billing. And, CNN's version fails to mention Susan Lindauer's prior employment history, but instead leaves the reader believing she was some random lady.

And I know, because I read the CNN article first, and I was like "ok, but who was this chick?"

OOh, more Kerry lies!
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040312-120719-7926r.htm

And one more thing, did you expect the Republicans to say "Oh yeah, well, that's true, we are a bunch of crooked liars." NO! Republicans are public officials too, and as a result, they are defending themselves and telling everyone that it's not true. DUH, this is common sense, you know.

BOTH sides have to use smoke and mirrors in order to sway the idiots who don't pay enough attention to read policy. Use of imagery to sway your emotions, double speak, you name it. As voters, our responsibility is to decide which side's agenda is going to benefit ourselves or the nation more, and cast a vote for that candidate.

But on a more specific level, I find it VERY disturbing that Kerry is being caught red handed in lie after lie! But you won't find THAT on CNN!


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