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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #69671] |
Mon, 01 March 2004 14:20   |
hareman
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Fuck LLama you are alomst as stupid as Super Sucking N00bie
Get a fucking life here is a nickel maybe you can by one at least one that is better than the one you have now..
You are another one of those whiners who complains but does nothing to make things better.
As for my siggy it seems you ARE IGNORANT. Most found it amusing. So take your PC loving hypocritical ass to the juvenile forum where it belongs and bother the adults no longer.
A couple of last questions:
What the FUck have you ever done to make the world a better place?
Have you ever arrested a multiple murderer? NO!
Have you ever served? Probably not!
Fuck why bother little snot weasels like you can't be bothered to actually work for a better world you can only sit back and complain and second guess those who do. So when you are ready to do something then you can address me until that day you little worm GO FUCK YOUR SELF
Ha Ha no EARepOrion TO save your worthless asses here my toadies
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #69672] |
Mon, 01 March 2004 14:23 |
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Crimson
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Ah, someone else who agrees with me. I do not infact believe that everyone should fall under one of two parties. It's ridiculous. It's a trap, as hareman said. Get you to rally behind your team and blindly support whatever they say?? NO! Hell no.
I do not agree that gays shouldn't be married. While I myself am straight as an arrow, I do not believe that if two soul mates happen to be the same gender that their union should be worth any less than the union of a man and a woman. Holding aside any related gay debate, what this means is that I'm not a die-hard republican. I still think both sides are taking too damn much of our money.
The difference being that Bush is cutting my taxes, while the Democrats want to take more of my money away. Bush trusts me to spend my money. (And believe me, I spend it!) Bush gives more money to the businesses so they can invest back into their own businesses. When a business gets an extra, let's say, 10 grand, they can go buy some machine. Now, they have to pay someone to operate that machine. They just created a job. That's what we want. I don't see how, if the government takes more and more of our money, how that's going to create a job. I just don't.
You could pump it into education... so now you have more people who know how to work, but no place for them TO work.
You could pump it into welfare programs... so people don't have to work and can be lazy. (but that's communism)
Just where can the Federal government invest money that would create a job? This nation is NOT a dictatorship. We are a democracy. A collective (ah! The borg!) of people who work together for the common good. There's a saying -- if you build a better mousetrap, the world will beat a path to your door. Let's keep the incentive to make a better mousetrap and improve your station in life by letting you keep most of the money you earn from it. How could anyone possibly think this is wrong?? If some Bill makes a crapload of dough from his ideas, why does his money, all of a sudden, have to go to support the lazy welfare mothers and the guys who have one leg shorter than the other?
Enough of that... 
I'm the bawss.
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #69676] |
Mon, 01 March 2004 14:32 |
hareman
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I agree with what you said maybe this thread should be locked if they want to continue let 'em start a new one.
My point is QUIT COMPLAINING AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
Those of you who refuse to do anything (even if it is differrent from what I do) drag down those of us who do something. It isn't all that hard.
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #69679] |
Mon, 01 March 2004 15:00 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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hareman: Thank you for your in-depth comments about what I think. They will be duley noted and I will try my best to incorporate them in to my every-day life. However, naturally I am far too busy to respond to everything I see, so I'm afraid that I cannot comment on your educated opinions about me. Thank you for your help.
Crimson: If giving money back to people and companies is good for everyone, then why has Bush lost almost 3 million net jobs this far in his term?
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lazy welfare mothers
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Not everyone on welfare is lazy. Maybe these people have a baby or two and have to work two jobs to support their family, but they get fired because of poor education in which case they are classified as an able-bodied person who refuses to work. Yea, that's pretty lazy.
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The difference being that Bush is cutting my taxes
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And simultaneously raising the deficit, so in 30-50 years, you will be paying all of this money back. There's a reason the government taxes people, and it's not so politicians can all have a fancier car than you.
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while the Democrats want to take more of my money away.
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As in how? You mean like Whitewater, the 40-million dollar investigation that came out of taxpayer's pockets, never yielded anything, and was basically a Republican campaign ad?
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #69693] |
Mon, 01 March 2004 16:06 |
Llama Man 451
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hareman- your ego is so disgusting it makes me want to throw up!!
your calling me a hypocrite???? what a joke!!!!!! you call me a child when you use insults about fucking myself and such.... very adultlike. power trip republicans like you are what is making this country go down the tube.
there is really only two words that can fully describe you:
COMPLETE MEGALOMANIAC
you asked me several questions in your last post and then answered them for me; where is the logic in that???
and for your information i am doing something asshole, i go to rallies, protests, try to help with organizing meetings and such, what do you do? sit on the computer and tell people how full of yourself you are congratulations you are a bonefied loser!!!!!
crimson- i too agree that this whole constitutional amendment thing about gay marriages is BS.
george bush may have created some million jobs or w/e but that does not mke up for all that he has lost
as for taxes i think they should go partly to welfare people but the amount they get should somehow depend on what they do, like super said they may be capable but just made some bad decisions in their life.
i dont know if that qualifies as a great idea but i also feel it is sort of a lost cause if we are paying them to sit around and do nothing, i would like to help them out but i want to know they are getting HELP....
only republican hick christian goody goods could ever find you siggy amusing horeman . . . you disgust me you are everything wrong with america.
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #69697] |
Mon, 01 March 2004 16:21 |
Llama Man 451
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i have told you time and time again that i am NOT pimp boy joe!!!!!!!!
please you can call him whatever you want but dont call me shit because you think iam him!!!!!
you have been commenting on pimp boy joes umbrel but have you read horeman's post, they are disturbing, if you think I have issues you should check that due out.
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #69698] |
Mon, 01 March 2004 16:25 |
hareman
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OOOOOOOOOOOOO
I go to pep rallys I am involved
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YOU do jack shit I noticed you didn't bother to deny a word I said. AS to me being a republican lmao obviously you never learned to read either.
Thank You for validating all of my points. Did you have to lokk up all the long words or did a 6th grader help you?
and is llama really your name or sexual affiliation?
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #69700] |
Mon, 01 March 2004 16:31 |
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U927
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RetardMan451, since both of your word choice, snetence sturcture, AND grammar are nearly equal, it is safe to assume that you and pimp boy joe are the same. Also, it seems a bit coincidential that when I throw a personal attack at you, pimp boy joe is there to defend you.
As for hareman, I've seen what he writes. I've seen what he says on mIRC as well. He's OK in my book, because unlike you, he actually uses proof and support for his statements, unlike your ad-hominem filled attacks.
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act but a habit. - Aristotle
8-Bit Theatre. The power of evil compels you!
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #69707] |
Mon, 01 March 2004 16:41 |
Llama Man 451
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I TOLD YOU HE IS MY BEST FREND OF COURSE HELL STICK UP FOR ME!!!!!
hareman i DID deny what you said you worthless piece of trash!!! do you have friends?? i dont think i could stand your overszed ego for more than thirty seconds. why dont you get a life!!!
umbrel- WHAT PROOF????? ALL HE HAS POSTED ARE CONDESCENDING SNIDE COMMENTS THIS ENTIRE TIME!!!!! PEOPLE LIKE YOU MAKE ME WANT TO SHOOT MYSELF IN THE HEAD GAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!
i just dont see how a democrat could be as stupid as you hareman it makes no sense, no i havent tried a convicted murderer im fucking fourteen asshole, and im smarter than youll ever be ok? just because i cant type for shit doesnt mean i ain smart, god i swear i cannot put up with this any onger
I HAVE TOLD THE TRUTH AND YOU WILL NOT LEAVE ME BE I AM TRYING TO SPEAK MY OPINION AND YOU ARE TO STUCK UP, SELF RIGHTEOUS, CONDESCENDING, HOT HEADED, FUCKED UP, SNOT NOSED, WORTHLESS, ARROGANT, IGNORRANT, AND I AM ALMOST POSITIVE I AM TALKIG TO A LABOTOMY PATIENT!!!!!!!
hareman- good job not making a point by spelling LOOK wrong, jackass! 
i cant believe people like you actually exist.... 
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #69713] |
Mon, 01 March 2004 16:50 |
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U927
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umbrel- WHAT PROOF????? ALL HE HAS POSTED ARE CONDESCENDING SNIDE COMMENTS THIS ENTIRE TIME!!!!! PEOPLE LIKE YOU MAKE ME WANT TO SHOOT MYSELF IN THE HEAD GAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!
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First, it's Umbral.
Second, I ain't stoppin' ya.
Third, although hareman makes snide comments, he has contributed a lot to the Renegade community. He was known before a foenix (I think I spelled it wrong), and he was a member of both the Dominion Guild and Forces of Diversion, the largest clans in Renegade. He also ran fodsvr01, the first sever to fill up in the manyFOD servers there were.
He has earned my respect a long time ago. You, well, see the second suggestion.
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act but a habit. - Aristotle
8-Bit Theatre. The power of evil compels you!
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #69721] |
Mon, 01 March 2004 17:24 |
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Crimson
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lazy welfare mothers
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Not everyone on welfare is lazy. Maybe these people have a baby or two and have to work two jobs to support their family, but they get fired because of poor education in which case they are classified as an able-bodied person who refuses to work. Yea, that's pretty lazy.
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1) You are talking about the minority.
2) WHY DO I HAVE TO SUPPORT THEM? I am not the one who made the bad decisions. Please please answer me this, because you continue to skate around it.
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The difference being that Bush is cutting my taxes
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And simultaneously raising the deficit, so in 30-50 years, you will be paying all of this money back. There's a reason the government taxes people, and it's not so politicians can all have a fancier car than you.
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You are making predictions. Maybe I predict that his tax cuts will bring more money in. After all, that's what happened when Reagan did it.
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while the Democrats want to take more of my money away.
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As in how? You mean like Whitewater, the 40-million dollar investigation that came out of taxpayer's pockets, never yielded anything, and was basically a Republican campaign ad?
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Here you go with the off-topic crap. The Democrats publically and unabashedly tell you and us that the first thing they will do when they get in office is to take back Bush's tax cuts. That means I will have to pay more money to the Federal government. THAT'S how they take more of my money away.
Once again, you can't prove Whitewater any more than I can disprove it, therefore it's really really ignorant of you to continue to bring it up. Just because Clinton wasn't found guilty, that does NOT mean he was found innocent. All it means is that it could not be proved beyond a reasonable doubt. That's all. When I look at Clinton's Course of Conduct, I believe differently than you.
Fortunately, for now, it doesn't matter, because he's not in office. Unfortunately, I already know that Bush will win in 2004 because the Democrats are putting an un-electable man (Kerry) in the front-runner position so that Bush will win and they can send Hillary up against a new Republican hopeful in 2008.
I'm the bawss.
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #69730] |
Mon, 01 March 2004 18:02 |
hareman
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LMAO so someone actually read that thread. Its not really a secret anymore but at one it was and only a fwe knew I was also foenixz. As for the clan affiliations currently I involved in no clans though if EOE does accept to clan against flaminrek I am onboard for that.
I have done mreo this communitty than most. but that is not in question as Crimson is the queen of renegade though who should be King would be a hotly debated topic. she is by far the most vocal supporter without her and noobstories I would have left renegade long ago.
I keep that server up as a tribute to treyD and the good times we had on it in the past.
As for you peple debating still move on go outside get a life
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #69736] |
Mon, 01 March 2004 18:39 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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1) You are talking about the minority.
2) WHY DO I HAVE TO SUPPORT THEM? I am not the one who made the bad decisions. Please please answer me this, because you continue to skate around it.
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1) You know this how?
2) Because getting the poor back on their feet lets them get back in the swing of things, they get jobs, they contribute to society, they maake the economy prosper, and all that good comes back to you.
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You are making predictions. Maybe I predict that his tax cuts will bring more money in. After all, that's what happened when Reagan did it.
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Supply-side economics was complete baloney. Here's something on Greg Mankiw, An economist currently on Bush's team. He's the man who walked into the Bush Administration having written that supply-side economics was a brand of "fad economics" popularized by "cranks and charlatans". And if the government stops getting money from taxes, what's it going to do? Increase debt. Someone's gotta pay that money back.
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Here you go with the off-topic crap. The Democrats publically and unabashedly tell you and us that the first thing they will do when they get in office is to take back Bush's tax cuts. That means I will have to pay more money to the Federal government. THAT'S how they take more of my money away.
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Well, yeah, of course they're going to repeal Bush's short-sighted tax cuts. Tax cuts that are putting this country in big debt. Tax cuts that are so bad that the money we don't get from them any more is included in Bush's 2004 budget. Why? Because Bush's budget doesn't look so hot unless he's getting that money. And yet you blindly stand behind him because the more money you get, the better the government is, right? Not so, especially not when we're having an expensive war in Iraq right now [Note: Bush didn't include the cost of being in Iraq in his 2004 budget, either. Huh...]
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Once again, you can't prove Whitewater any more than I can disprove it, therefore it's really really ignorant of you to continue to bring it up. Just because Clinton wasn't found guilty, that does NOT mean he was found innocent. All it means is that it could not be proved beyond a reasonable doubt. That's all. When I look at Clinton's Course of Conduct, I believe differently than you.
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Even though you can't prove Whitewater, you blindly stand behind it? You don't have to fall behind your dad, you know. Even though Clinton was proved guilty, the fact that an independent group to investigate Whitewater found nothing EVEN AFTER the unbiased guy in charge was replaced by the Republican Congress by Starr, who is a RADICAL Clinton hater. When you look at his Course of Conduct...More like if you choose to randomly believe things that you see. So far, nothing you've shown about your poster has any real merit.
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Unfortunately, I already know that Bush will win in 2004 because the Democrats are putting an un-electable man (Kerry) in the front-runner position so that Bush will win and they can send Hillary up against a new Republican hopeful in 2008.
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Even though Kerry AND Edwards are ahead of Bush in popularity. Kerry isn't un-electable, it's just what FOX, Rush, etc. want you to think.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| OT: Political IQ Test [message #69783] |
Tue, 02 March 2004 03:06 |
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Crimson
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hee hee hee ya know whats funny? crimson you were saying you wre having to pay back your tax cuts because of democrats.
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No, I said that if a Democrat got into the White House in this next election, I would no longer have the tax cuts.
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1. since gore is competant unlike our current head honcho he wouldnt have gone to war with iraq and hewould have done something about 9-11 (they had a call on 9-10 informing them that there was going to be terrorist activity!!!)
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Yeah, you're going to have to prove that.
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2. we wouldnt be in the horrible deficit we are facing now!!!! hee hee hee
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Uh, you're insane...
Obviously since you two are 15, you really don't know anything. All you know is suckling your mommy and daddy's teats. Until you support yourself, you really know nothing. If you're not a Democrat when you're 18, you have no heart. If you aren't a Republican when you're 40, you have no brain. Until you are making more than $40,000 per year you have absolutely no frame of reference.
If some welfare mom gets money for free, there is NO incentive to get back to work. If you get enough money to support yourself without working, why would you work? You still haven't said why I have to support her. Even if some people, again the minority, use the program to get back on their feet, that still doesn't explain why I, a hard-working middle-class income earner, have to support her. Back in "the day", this mom would appeal to her church for aid, and they were able to provide with almost 0% overhead. The government supplies these programs with over 70% overhead. Once again, it's not about taking more money, it's about spending the money they have more efficiently.
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Well, yeah, of course they're going to repeal Bush's short-sighted tax cuts. Tax cuts that are putting this country in big debt. Tax cuts that are so bad that the money we don't get from them any more is included in Bush's 2004 budget. Why? Because Bush's budget doesn't look so hot unless he's getting that money. And yet you blindly stand behind him because the more money you get, the better the government is, right? Not so, especially not when we're having an expensive war in Iraq right now [Note: Bush didn't include the cost of being in Iraq in his 2004 budget, either. Huh...]
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Tax cuts are not what put this country in debt.
http://www.federalbudget.com/
Reference the above link for a non-partisan look at the budget. Also note the following items:
"The deficit for FY03 was a lot less than expected. Tax revenues were up. President Bush got a tax rate cut and the revenue went up. So it wasn't a tax cut, it was a tax rate cut! and it worked perfectly."
http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdfaq.htm
The link above is also government-hosted FAQ's about the difference between debt and deficit. Remember not to confuse the two. They are VERY VERY different.
If you make $40,000 in a year, and you project to spend $50,000, then your budget has a $10,000 deficit. If you borrow $12,000 from a bank, you now have a $12,000 debt.
Throughout the year, you make payments on your debt and reduce your principal to $11,000.
Next year, you get a raise. You now make $45,000 per year. But through inflation, etc. your monthly requirement is now $57,000. For that year, you have a $12,000 deficit in your budget. You again borrow $14,000. You are now in debt $25,000.
Of course a person would rarely be trusted with this type of money, but treasury bills are backed by the full faith and credit of the US Government.
The National Debt has risen every year since 1957.
http://www.federalbudget.com/whopays.html
Here's another fantastic article about who's really paying the taxes in this country. BACKED BY FACTS. Completely derived from publically-available figures.
You can sit and argue individual expenditures until you're blue in the face, but if you do a bit of digging into history you'll find that there have been debatable expenditures all the time, every day, for decades. Putting your Democrat into office isn't going to fix that.
I'm the bawss.
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