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| I hate Japanamation. [message #6820] |
Sun, 16 March 2003 04:32   |
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Walrus
Messages: 382
Registered: February 2003
Location: Good old England
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I must say that I am not a big fan of anime. Although I do watch a great many of them on TV and on DVD. DBZ has used the same story format since the beginning, as have most anime. It's sad. Gundamwing just gets on my nerves. I can’t stand the over righteous bull shit and the never ending jap obsession with 'battles.' I think at most that there are three maybe four different story formats for anime...they are over used and relay too heavy on the watchers ignorance and willingness to watch over plotted storylines. even Akira (i cant wait to be flamed for this one) and Ghost In The Shell use the same formats that DBZ, GW, GiantRobo, molldiver (- not sure about the name of the last one, I only had the dvd for a few hours,) and a shit load of other series that i watched.
I would rather read the original Manga, then sit and watch a half hour of badly written dribble.
Some anime is good, some is funny, some is even thoughtful, but most is utter crap. Not many good scripts come out of Japan. There are writers out there in Japan who are never heard. They are the good ones. The people who commision cartoons in Japan would rather use the same old crap writing formulas and formats then go with some thing new.
Why take the risk?
If you don't believe me watch a few anime... not just DBZ because that doesn’t cut it... and take note of the story structure. You will see what I mean.
Oh yeah. one last thing. If like GW and other anime. Go to your local comic book store and order some of the Manga... Its better to read then watch.
WWE sucks the big one.
"I see everything twice!"
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| I hate Japanamation. [message #6832] |
Sun, 16 March 2003 06:54 |
John Shaft Jr.
Messages: 509
Registered: February 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois, U.S.A.
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| Vegita246 |
I havnt judged you at all, what would make you think that? Also you havnt commented on the 2 movies i brought up, most probably because you havnt seen them. Also if you havnt watched DBZ from saiyan saga to end of frieza saga you shouldnt be commenting on it (but you have the right to...damn free speech). It wasnt away from the subject because you mentioned unreal powers. 
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Alright 1. Not only did you judge, you just made assumptions. Cause first of all, you don't know what the hell I watched and what did I watched. You just assumed and think I didn't see it. Never ever assume anything. Always asked before assuming. You didn't see me doing that shit to you.
2. You were away from the subject. I won this debate already cause you went far off the subject. If you don't know what yo did then let me point it out for you. First of all you bring up "Everything owns WWE". Now till that point I stayed on the subject. For example when I did this debate I compared cartoons to other cartoons. I compared Japanese cartoons to Americans cartoons. I stayed ont he Subject. Until you strayed away from it and said "WWE just sucks because its just totaly stupid and trys to have a storyline, which really sucks btw." Now I was trying to stay away from it cause before you said that I said, "I would argue about WWF (yes its still WWf to me) but too tired right now." Cause it doesn't make any sense to compare the two. Cause they are in 2 different genres. Why go and compare Reality to cartoons. Doesn't make any sense. But I went along with it and compared it and won successfully. Then you bring up "Marvel comics suck." or whatever. Again you wenty way off the subject. Can't compare caomic books to cartoons (well you can in a way but not going into that). I'm saying to myself, "What the hell is this. He's losing the debate so he's comparing to different genres." Let me tell you something, when i do a debate about any, if it politics, sports, cartoons, whatever, I always try to stay on the subject. Like I did, I caompared cartoons to other cartoons. I don't go way off the topic to compare stuff to other. You did that twice already. I just said "fuck it" and went along with it.
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Oh and dont put HAHAHAHA at the start of your post it makes you sound like an idiot.
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3. Then you said I sound like a idiot when I say "HAHAHAHAHAHA". First of all you have no right to judge me. You don't know me. You don't even know why I used the "HAHAHAHAHAHAHA". No. Cause you didn't ask. Like I said int he beginning you should ask before you say anything. You don't see me doing that to you. I could have said, "Man you sound like a 12 year old." But I didn't Cause I know nothing about you just like you know nothing about me (Well kinda not true if we read each others pofile then we would know a little bit about each other). All I know is that you're some person that I having a debate with over the internet about cartoons.
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I must say that I am not a big fan of anime. Although I do watch a great many of them on TV and on DVD. DBZ has used the same story format since the beginning, as have most anime. It's sad. Gundamwing just gets on my nerves. I can’t stand the over righteous bull shit and the never ending jap obsession with 'battles.' I think at most that there are three maybe four different story formats for anime...they are over used and relay too heavy on the watchers ignorance and willingness to watch over plotted storylines. even Akira (i cant wait to be flamed for this one) and Ghost In The Shell use the same formats that DBZ, GW, GiantRobo, molldiver (- not sure about the name of the last one, I only had the dvd for a few hours,) and a shit load of other series that i watched.
I would rather read the original Manga, then sit and watch a half hour of badly written dribble.
Some anime is good, some is funny, some is even thoughtful, but most is utter crap. Not many good scripts come out of Japan. There are writers out there in Japan who are never heard. They are the good ones. The people who commision cartoons in Japan would rather use the same old crap writing formulas and formats then go with some thing new.
Why take the risk?
If you don't believe me watch a few anime... not just DBZ because that doesn’t cut it... and take note of the story structure. You will see what I mean.
Oh yeah. one last thing. If like GW and other anime. Go to your local comic book store and order some of the Manga... Its better to read then watch.
WWE sucks the big one.
"I see everything twice!"
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You are right. And thats what i been trying to tell everyone. Its sucks cause they use the same storyline over and oevr again.
Except I disagree with you about the WWE. WWE is not meant to have a good storyline. Its tehre to entertain people. All those wrestlers in WWE is very athletic and are good entertainers. Not only that they take alot of pain in what they do. The reason why i chose WWE over DBZ is because well I chose WWE over anything. Actaully I choose Anything that deals with Reality over anything.
For example I rather choose to watch A basketball game then to watch a cartoon. Or I rather Lifted weights then read a comic book. I rather play basketball then playing a videogame and pretending to be Kobe Bryant and playing basketball. I choose Reality > non reality stuff. Non- Fiction > Fiction. Except when it comes down to the Simpsons adn South Park or Renegade and some other videogames.
Its better then being a character that in completely unbelieveable.*ahem* Vegita246.
And he still have a picture of Trucks in he signature. Wuz up with that man. When you're going to get a picture of Vegeta?
EDIT: Just had to bring this up but don't forget about the Warner Bros. cartoon to DBZ comparsion that I stated in one of my posts earlier before. 
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| I hate Japanamation. [message #6836] |
Sun, 16 March 2003 07:24 |
Vegita246
Messages: 60
Registered: February 2003
Location: Liverpool, England
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Im sure you said earlyer than you hadnt watched it all exept the first episode but im sorry if im wrong. I gave 2 examples of dbz movies that you havnt commented on. I said WWE sucked as a joke not a part of this discussion. I compared to marvel comic CARTOONS that means cartoons that have been made out of comic books. You dont win the debate untill i give or you prove me wrong. Thanks for making an intelligent post and getting to the points. I will always argue for DBZ because i think its a good show. Id like you to comment on DBZ without mentioning storyline please, just want to see what you would say.
Ah the fun of multiple timed c4 kills 
Now known as Makku117
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