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Star Wars to Renegade TC in need of skinners [message #67473] Thu, 19 February 2004 19:33 Go to next message
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Renegade: A New Hope, is in need of talented skinners.

This mod is a Star Wars to Renegade total conversion, which immerses you into the Star Wars universe. Covering movies, four through six, this mod is coming along extremely nice.

So, if you'd like to skin for them, drop me a line at on of the following:

E-mail: AAK625@comcast.net
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AIM: Glock625
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Thanks for your time,
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Star Wars to Renegade TC in need of skinners [message #67481] Thu, 19 February 2004 20:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
boma57 is currently offline  boma57
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I'd join if I had the time, but I've got some projects of my own going. Razz

I really have to compliment you guys, though, I've loved your work since I first saw it. The current skinner isn't leaving, is he? He's been doing a bang up job so far.
Star Wars to Renegade TC in need of skinners [message #67490] Thu, 19 February 2004 21:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Skinners remove the skin of animals... Texture artists create texture maps for 3D games.
Star Wars to Renegade TC in need of skinners [message #67502] Fri, 20 February 2004 01:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Shut up, people have been useing the term skinning since the days of Quake...

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Star Wars to Renegade TC in need of skinners [message #67538] Fri, 20 February 2004 09:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That AK for ya. Always trying to be the funny one.
Star Wars to Renegade TC in need of skinners [message #67539] Fri, 20 February 2004 09:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wasn't getting walk vehicles to work in Renegade a problem? I though people where having problems with that.
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Skinners remove the skin of animals... Texture artists create texture maps for 3D games.


"Texture artists" makes the job sound more important than it really is. Razz
Star Wars to Renegade TC in need of skinners [message #67567] Fri, 20 February 2004 13:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Uh.... So can anyone texture/skin for us? Confused

Star Wars to Renegade TC in need of skinners [message #67568] Fri, 20 February 2004 13:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Shut up, people have been useing the term skinning since the days of Quake...


Misusing a word doesn't make it correct for its unintended purpose. Nor does being ignorant make it okay to tell others that it's correct.
Star Wars to Renegade TC in need of skinners [message #67580] Fri, 20 February 2004 15:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sorry, guess my background is diffrent then yours, my language is full of coruptions and other fun things...

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Star Wars to Renegade TC in need of skinners [message #67592] Fri, 20 February 2004 15:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you ACK and Cpo.

Now, can anyone texture for us?


Star Wars to Renegade TC in need of skinners [message #67633] Fri, 20 February 2004 17:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Skinners remove the skin of animals... Texture artists create texture maps for 3D games.


"Texture artists" makes the job sound more important than it really is. Razz


Until you actually realize how important it actually is.


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Star Wars to Renegade TC in need of skinners [message #67643] Fri, 20 February 2004 18:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Skinners remove the skin of animals... Texture artists create texture maps for 3D games.


Textures? No, a texture is something in the real world that gives something an embossed feel or appearance. A texture does not literally exist in a digital world.

Digital representations of actual materials are what are applied to the digital depictions of polygonal shapes composing figures and icons in an electronic setting - Literally, they are neither skins nor textures.

Of course, that's if you're going to take everything literally - as you were. If you're going to behave like a normal person would, skinning and texturing are both homonymous jargon and properly used in the context of this thread.
Star Wars to Renegade TC in need of skinners [message #67648] Fri, 20 February 2004 18:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Star Wars to Renegade TC in need of skinners [message #67654] Fri, 20 February 2004 18:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This mod is retarded. Period.

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Star Wars to Renegade TC in need of skinners [message #67656] Fri, 20 February 2004 18:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller

Skinners remove the skin of animals... Texture artists create texture maps for 3D games.


Textures? No, a texture is something in the real world that gives something an embossed feel or appearance. A texture does not literally exist in a digital world.

Digital representations of actual materials are what are applied to the digital depictions of polygonal shapes composing figures and icons in an electronic setting - Literally, they are neither skins nor textures.

Of course, that's if you're going to take everything literally - as you were. If you're going to behave like a normal person would, skinning and texturing are both homonymous jargon and properly used in the context of this thread.


Not really, says dictionary.com

1 entry found for skinners.
skin·ner P Pronunciation Key (sknr)
n.
One that flays, dresses, or sells animal skins.
Western U.S. A mule driver.

skin P Pronunciation Key (skn)
n.
The membranous tissue forming the external covering or integument of an animal and consisting in vertebrates of the epidermis and dermis.
An animal pelt, especially the comparatively pliable pelt of a small or young animal: a tent made of goat skins.
A usually thin, closely adhering outer layer: the skin of a peach; a sausage skin; the skin of an aircraft.
A container for liquids that is made of animal skin.
Music. A drumhead.
Informal. One's life or physical survival: They lied to save their skins.

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texture



<graphics> A measure of the variation of the intensity of a
surface, quantifying properties such as smoothness, coarseness
and regularity. It's often used as a region descriptor in
image analysis and computer vision.


The three principal approaches used to describe texture are
statistical, structural and spectral. Statistical techniques
characterise texture by the statistical properties of the grey
levels of the points comprising a surface. Typically, these
properties are computed from the grey level histogram or
grey level cooccurrence matrix of the surface.

Structural techniques characterise texture as being composed
of simple primitives called "texels" (texture elements), that
are regularly arranged on a surface according to some rules.
These rules are formally defined by grammars of various
types.

Spectral techiques are based on properties of the Fourier
spectrum and describe global periodicity of the grey levels of
a surface by identifying high energy peaks in the spectrum.

Texture\texture artist is the correct form. "Skin" and "skinners" and any variant thereof is not.
Star Wars to Renegade TC in need of skinners [message #67658] Fri, 20 February 2004 18:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lol...

Quote:

v. skinned, skin·ning, skins
v. tr.
To remove skin from: skinned and gutted the rabbit.
To bruise, cut, or injure the skin or surface of: She skinned her knee.
To remove (an outer covering); peel off: skin off the thin bark.
To cover with or as if with skin: skin the framework of a canoe.
Slang. To fleece; swindle.


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Star Wars to Renegade TC in need of skinners [message #67662] Fri, 20 February 2004 19:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Fucking Christ people! I just want some fucking skilled people who can skin/texture/fucking dress up the models damn it. Mad

Does anyone want to help out or not? Jesus Christ.

Stop with the political correctness.


Star Wars to Renegade TC in need of skinners [message #67665] Fri, 20 February 2004 19:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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While we're on the topic of the subtle nuances of internet lingo, and since skinning/skin/skinner is an inappropriate term, here are some other words/phrases that should be banned:

lol
rofl [or any variants of this, like roflao]
brb
ttyl
cyaz
plz
Any word that uses numbers to replace syllables or letters, such as "4M" or "L33T"
n00b or noob, the correct term should be "newcomer to the game/map/mod/whatever"

If I missed anything, please post it, as this thread really isn't about anyone wanting to SKIN!!! anyone's models.

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Star Wars to Renegade TC in need of skinners [message #67678] Fri, 20 February 2004 20:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Skinners remove the skin of animals... Texture artists create texture maps for 3D games.


Textures? No, a texture is something in the real world that gives something an embossed feel or appearance. A texture does not literally exist in a digital world.

Digital representations of actual materials are what are applied to the digital depictions of polygonal shapes composing figures and icons in an electronic setting - Literally, they are neither skins nor textures.

Of course, that's if you're going to take everything literally - as you were. If you're going to behave like a normal person would, skinning and texturing are both homonymous jargon and properly used in the context of this thread.


I care too much


As long as a word can be used and understood by a group in the same context, then it qualifies as either slang or jargon.

This is true whether you, or the literal interpretation from Mr. Webster, agree or not.
Star Wars to Renegade TC in need of skinners [message #67696] Fri, 20 February 2004 22:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So if a bunch of people called you "Retard," that'd be the appropriate salutation for you? "Hi retard!" Wink

You know it's wrong, just admit it.
Star Wars to Renegade TC in need of skinners [message #67697] Fri, 20 February 2004 22:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Genocide!

This mod is retarded. Period.

I care to disagree...


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Star Wars to Renegade TC in need of skinners [message #67707] Fri, 20 February 2004 23:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You guys fucking suck, you know that? I come here to try and get some damned textures/skinners and you guys start parading around with your technicality flags.

Star Wars to Renegade TC in need of skinners [message #67715] Sat, 21 February 2004 00:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I resemble that remark

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Star Wars to Renegade TC in need of skinners [message #67734] Sat, 21 February 2004 01:35 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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http://www.skylabgames.com/jobs_art.php
(senior texture/skin artist)

http://www.scionstudios.com/jobs.htm
(Character Modelers/Skinners )

Are these companies wrong too?

What we have here is a colloquialism. While it may not be technically correct (by dictionary definition), everyone knows what it means. Certainly it's a well-used term within the games industry. Any artist, if asked "Hey, can you just skin this flying penismobile model for me?" would find themselves pretty quickly replaced if they responded with "It's not a skin, it's a texture"

I've spoken to numerous Westwood staff over the years, and guess what? They call it "skinning" too! Go figure!

Anyway - someone help this guy out. His thread's been hijacked by a bunch of pedants Smile


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