| Every Server Should Run *PURE MODE* w/ tag [RGP] [message #66622] |
Sat, 14 February 2004 23:37  |
Alkaline
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Well, all un servers will run pure mode when it comes out simply because skins/sounds e.t.c. *MAY* give somesort of an advantage... So inorder to avoid any possible scenario, I think servers should run PURE mode and add the [RGP] tag to the name so people know it is running rengaurd pure mode.
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| Every Server Should Run *PURE MODE* w/ tag [RGP] [message #66640] |
Sun, 15 February 2004 01:01  |
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Crimson
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RenGuard will have a listing of servers, and server owners will be able to provide a more lengthy MOTD than currently allowed by WOL. In that MOTD will also be server settings so players will know you're in Pure mode.
I'm the bawss.
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| Every Server Should Run *PURE MODE* w/ tag [RGP] [message #66642] |
Sun, 15 February 2004 01:05 |
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Scythar
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Nah it's not a good idea to go too far.....Let's just make sure that everyone has the same mouse and keyboard too, not to mention hardware or bandwidth.
Everyone who DOESN'T have a white PC case isn't allowed to play...
There's a hole in the sky through which things can fly.
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| Every Server Should Run *PURE MODE* w/ tag [RGP] [message #66667] |
Sun, 15 February 2004 06:13 |
Weirdo
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Nah it's not a good idea to go too far.....Let's just make sure that everyone has the same mouse and keyboard too, not to mention hardware or bandwidth.
Everyone who DOESN'T have a white PC case isn't allowed to play...
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*Starts painting his black dell pc to white*
Size doesn't matter.
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| Every Server Should Run *PURE MODE* w/ tag [RGP] [message #66700] |
Sun, 15 February 2004 11:38 |
Alkaline
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Well I'm talking about c4 count down sound mods,
COlored stealth skins, colored remote c4 skills , shiny beacons, (e.g. hot pink, neon blue/green that make stuff easier to see)
voodoo sniper scope mods that get rid of the green tint.
All these give people and advantage and should be taken away.
The only thing I would allow is perhaps custom HUDs
So pure mode would be the best imo.
http://www.UNRules.com
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| Every Server Should Run *PURE MODE* w/ tag [RGP] [message #66702] |
Sun, 15 February 2004 11:55 |
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Crimson
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Westwood advertised for Blazer's C4 and Beacon Countdown mods, so it's safe to say that they are approved. Last I heard, pure mode will not block sound mods, only visual mods.
Removing the tint from the scope is currently considered cheating by RenGuard and you won't be able to play with an altered scope in any server mode.
I'm the bawss.
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| Every Server Should Run *PURE MODE* w/ tag [RGP] [message #66717] |
Sun, 15 February 2004 12:45 |
Alkaline
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Westwood advertised for Blazer's C4 and Beacon Countdown mods, so it's safe to say that they are approved. Last I heard, pure mode will not block sound mods, only visual mods.
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Approved by westwood doesn't mean it has to be approved by players, if it was that great it should have been included in one of the patches.
You have to agree, this gives people an advantage over people that don't have it, as you know exactly when to blow your c4, also its not like other people can hear the countdown.
Whats pure mode if it isn't "PURE"...I was under the impression that pure mode is the same why the game is as when you install it.
b.t.w. you can tell me that a sound that goes:
"STANK STANK STANK" loudly which replaces the stealth engine sound isn't cheating....
change soldier footsteps to lound thuds sounds, change sniper sounds, remvoe pistol silencer...
while people might say this is minimal, I still think people using modified sounds to detect where people are have an UNFAIR advantage. Pure mode should detect this and stop any modification that did not come with the game...
http://www.UNRules.com
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| Every Server Should Run *PURE MODE* w/ tag [RGP] [message #66735] |
Sun, 15 February 2004 14:20 |
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gibberish
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I have previously made several posts that agree with Alkaline on this issue.
I understand that some people would like to allow sound mod’s on their server(s). However there are those of us “Traditionalist” who like to play the game as it was after the Install and (unfortunately) the web upgrades from Westwood.
I understand the need for the existing two modes in Renguard, all I am asking for is 1 additional mode (true vanilla).
I am a software engineer myself, I know that the amount of work to add this mode is trivial with respect to the amount of work that has already been done to produce the rest of Renguard.
Please give us the freedom, to run our servers the way we want to run them.
Thanks,
Gib
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| Every Server Should Run *PURE MODE* w/ tag [RGP] [message #66786] |
Sun, 15 February 2004 22:05 |
Alkaline
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Ya, I like the sound of that, "true vanilla"
If rengaurd is only going to have 1 release where it has to be perfect, then this addition would be good. But I rather have it come out asap then having it being delayed (I don't think this little addition will add any delay).
Ahh well, I guess we are all just waiting for it to finnaly come out... 
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| i am sorry i am sayin this!! [message #66925] |
Mon, 16 February 2004 16:35 |
policepolice
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people i am truly sorry, but yall need to shut the fuck up, and pay more attention about fixing a game than kickin a fuckin cheater, yall guys fucked up, with lag, errors, missing texturs and all that, u think rengaurd gona make a difference, i know that rengaurd is for cheaters, but i usually see 2 cheaters in a month...
I payed 52 fucking canadian servers, and still to this date i lag like hell, there is no update for the enormous amount of errors and glitches, if we could concentrate on making the game better by fixing it, instead of bringing in some rengaurd shit, that hackers will get rid of it as soon as it comes out, like there is no impossilbe things for people out there hacking, for an instance, look at the final renegade shit, look at it, whoever made it, has access to the main frame of renegade, and whoever is that will make further hacks or whatever you call to get rid of the freaking rengaurd crap..
people please concentrate on fixing the game, such as mod makers please, if you guys concentrate on fixing the game it would be much better, this lag issue, there are so many things to be fixed!!
I am so sorry to swear, because just now westwood online was shut down!!! 
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| Every Server Should Run *PURE MODE* w/ tag [RGP] [message #67059] |
Tue, 17 February 2004 13:10 |
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gibberish
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How is the clear sniping scope cheating?
All i ever see is n00bs posting here who know nothing about the game.
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GSAELiTe,
I am not sure if this comment was addresses to me, however cheating has some grey area's that I doubt will ever be resolved.
I believe that clearing the scope is a grey area, I understand that some people want to play on servers where this is allowed. However I don't want players to do this on my server. This is why I am asking for a "True Vanilla" mode in addition to the existing two modes.
If the RenGuard developers implement this, you will be free to play on any server that has "Almost Vanilla" mode and I will be able to have the rules I want on my server.
Please note that I am not actually defining clearing the scope as cheating I am just saying it is not acceptable on my server.
Gib
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| Re: i am sorry i am sayin this!! [message #67099] |
Tue, 17 February 2004 16:59 |
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Cpo64
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people i am truly sorry, but yall need to shut the fuck up, and pay more attention about fixing a game than kickin a fuckin cheater, yall guys fucked up, with lag, errors, missing texturs and all that, u think rengaurd gona make a difference, i know that rengaurd is for cheaters, but i usually see 2 cheaters in a month...
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Missing textures? Errors? Which missing textures and error? I am not aware of any missing textures, and the only errors are limitations of the game...
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I payed 52 fucking canadian servers, and still to this date i lag like hell,
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Lag can't be fixed without a complete rewrite of the multiplayer code, or by upgradeing your connection and computer, I recomend the second choice, much easer...| policepolice |
there is no update for the enormous amount of errors and glitches, if we could concentrate on making the game better by fixing it, instead of bringing in some rengaurd shit, that hackers will get rid of it as soon as it comes out, like there is no impossilbe things for people out there hacking, for an instance, look at the final renegade shit, look at it, whoever made it, has access to the main frame of renegade, and whoever is that will make further hacks or whatever you call to get rid of the freaking rengaurd crap..
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You have no idea what your talking about. The people who made the cheats didn't use no "main frame of renegade" whatever the hell that is. They used publicly released Mod Tools. Any 'hack' made and released for renegade would be the first, not a second or third. If anyone has actuly hacked renegade they have kept it private and not released it. Becuase the current cheat is nothing more then a Modifcation! And guess what, soon as a new cheat is released, RenGuard will find a way of fixing it! Won't you renguard  | policepolice |
people please concentrate on fixing the game, such as mod makers please, if you guys concentrate on fixing the game it would be much better, this lag issue, there are so many things to be fixed!!
I am so sorry to swear, because just now westwood online was shut down!!!
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I hardly ever experence Lag, and if I do, its just a ping spike, or a bad server. So maybe you need a better connection, or a better Connection, or maybe you need to stop whining?
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| Every Server Should Run *PURE MODE* w/ tag [RGP] [message #67179] |
Wed, 18 February 2004 08:48 |
Alkaline
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Were you ever able to look into a scope, or binoculars, and get a full field of view?
No?
That's where it is. It's a cheat.
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Well although I agree with the no sniper scope borders, but that is a silly reason why its a cheat.
In real life You also can't get run over by a tank and then just respawn back to life in another place
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| Every Server Should Run *PURE MODE* w/ tag [RGP] [message #67524] |
Fri, 20 February 2004 06:41 |
TwI$Ta
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well i dont think clear scope mod is a cheat but ok i wont talk bout that...but just wondering.. so if u have like the pure scope mod and u try to go into a server..will it not let u in?..will it disable it and let u play?..will it ban/kick u ..or what? if this has been asked sry :rolleyes:
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