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| Titan's maps vs ACK's maps (split off) [message #66773] |
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Crimson
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I guess one way to settle this is to put two 20 player servers online, one with ACK's best maps, one with Titan's best maps... then we'll see which one gets more traffic. Hard to argue with that, I mean... the main test of a map is if people want to play the damn thing, right?
I'm the bawss.
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| Titan's maps vs ACK's maps (split off) [message #66787] |
Sun, 15 February 2004 22:10 |
Alkaline
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I think you're assuming shit becuase that's all you're capable of doing.
1. "Tib pit 3" is a sorry piece of shit. It took him three tries to get a "tiberium pit" to where it is and it STILL sucks. Nothing but huge, open space, with no cover. Like Terrace, just as bad. Anyone can do that. And they have.
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How many times did you redo glacier? Ohh ya 4 fucking times and it still has bugs!!! At least tib pit 1, 2 and 3 are fairly differnt from each other. Part of tib pits uniqueness is the opensapce, its hella of a lot better than that cow crap infested "mars"
Anyway if you wanna talk about open sapce, all your renalert maps are crappy "open sapce" and anyone can do that, but so far Titan's have been the best at doing it
I may be a little bastard when I post, BUT YOUR A BIG BASTARD AT LIFE.
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| Titan's maps vs ACK's maps (split off) [message #66791] |
Sun, 15 February 2004 22:16 |
Alkaline
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I guess one way to settle this is to put two 20 player servers online, one with ACK's best maps, one with Titan's best maps... then we'll see which one gets more traffic. Hard to argue with that, I mean... the main test of a map is if people want to play the damn thing, right?
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Sounds good, but only original maps made by each author are eligible, no maps in which ww contributed,
so exclude any variation of: Bunkers, glacier, mines, metro, land, sand, gobi
Any of titans should be acceptable, as he made them all from scratch. This will test each map makers true ability.
But crimson, I wonder why you even propose a such a challenge when you know the likelyhood of you actually hosting new maps (coupled with the threat that you will loose the precious traffic from your server with new maps) is virtually inexsistant.
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| Titan's maps vs ACK's maps (split off) [message #66803] |
Sun, 15 February 2004 23:12 |
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Aircraftkiller
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I think you're assuming shit becuase that's all you're capable of doing.
1. "Tib pit 3" is a sorry piece of shit. It took him three tries to get a "tiberium pit" to where it is and it STILL sucks. Nothing but huge, open space, with no cover. Like Terrace, just as bad. Anyone can do that. And they have.
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How many times did you redo glacier? Ohh ya 4 fucking times and it still has bugs!!! At least tib pit 1, 2 and 3 are fairly differnt from each other. Part of tib pits uniqueness is the opensapce, its hella of a lot better than that cow crap infested "mars"
Anyway if you wanna talk about open sapce, all your renalert maps are crappy "open sapce" and anyone can do that, but so far Titan's have been the best at doing it
I may be a little bastard when I post, BUT YOUR A BIG BASTARD AT LIFE.
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Four times? There are three versions of Glacier. Glacier Flying, Glacier, and GlacierTS. That's all.
Fairly different? In what way, that they suck harder than before? Mars makes sense... It's on fucking MARS you idiot! Terrace does NOT make sense, even a god damned desert has some boulders or rocks in it! Terrace has nothing! Just those typical "titan's huge tunnel system with almost nothing inside it except a bunch of unbalancing weapon spawns.'
Yeah, everything in RA is open space... You're such a fucking retard, trees, rocks, bushes, mountains, trenches, and ponds\lakes\rivers are not open space... Have you even gone outside??
Gee what's next, a forest is a huge open space? :rolleyes:
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Sounds good, but only original maps made by each author are eligible, no maps in which ww contributed,
so exclude any variation of: Bunkers, glacier, mines, metro, land, sand, gobi
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You know WS contributed to this by releasing the tools to modify the game? GEE RETARD>.. Ever think of that? I had to fucking work to get all of those files to release to ungrateful sumbitches like you, so it's not like my original work didn't net me what I wanted.
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| Titan's maps vs ACK's maps (split off) [message #66826] |
Mon, 16 February 2004 04:09 |
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Crimson
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Sounds good, but only original maps made by each author are eligible, no maps in which ww contributed,
so exclude any variation of: Bunkers, glacier, mines, metro, land, sand, gobi
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Why? He earned the right to do those maps. Not that I fear not being able to include those maps...
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Any of titans should be acceptable, as he made them all from scratch. This will test each map makers true ability.
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No problem
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But crimson, I wonder why you even propose a such a challenge when you know the likelyhood of you actually hosting new maps (coupled with the threat that you will loose the precious traffic from your server with new maps) is virtually inexsistant.
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1) I know I'm right, and if I'm not right, I want it to be proven, not because some forum idiots are jealous.
2) I have enough bandwidth and power to throw two more servers online for this. I was only lacking serials, but I just got some more. And since when did I say my server traffic was "precious"?? I'm hosting RenAlert, aren't I? Wasn't that a fan-made game? OMG IT WAS!!! Your complete stupidity and ignorance floors me at times.
I wouldn't have proposed this little challenge if I wasn't willing to follow through.
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Now, here's what I propose:
Two servers, 20 players. I can collect data for unique IPs that visit the server and how long they play in them.
The results will be categorized into Playability and Popularity. The one with the most playable maps will be the one who racks up the most total game time. The Popularity winner will have racked up the most unique IPs visiting the server.
I'm the bawss.
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| Titan's maps vs ACK's maps (split off) [message #66833] |
Mon, 16 February 2004 06:17 |
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Titan1x77
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Sure go right ahead
I'll pick out 6 maps that I designed, he picks out 6 maps that he designed.
You could be hosting the server with my maps on it with a cable connection for all i know :rolleyes:
But if this is what you want to do...go right ahead
High Noon 2
Lightwave 2
Terrace
Tib pit 3
High noon
Country Side
"But if the gameplay sucks, the looks don't matter at all." - Sir Phoenixx
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| Titan's maps vs ACK's maps (split off) [message #66860] |
Mon, 16 February 2004 12:23 |
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A small request to all the players to avoid "favortism". Try playing each map once, simply so you can give an accurate discription of what ones "suck" and which ones don't. Then play on the maps you want after that.
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No offense to you warranto.. but "fuck avoiding favoritism"..
I'm so tired of this petty bullshit that I'll simply run maps from people that aren't assholes from now on; who cares which ones god likes the best.
For almost 18 months I've watched this same thing go on, and on, and on, and on.. Sadly, no one else can even make a post in these forums about a map without being hammered by the almighty; enough is enough.
I've played games most of my adult life, and I've enjoyed maps in UT like "CTF Bedroom" where everything was green-yellow-blue, square and basically ugly as shit.. But it was hella-fun to play, and definately offered a change in pace to the typical game style.
Those types of things have been attempted with Renegade also, but have always been ostracized by Aircraftkiller and his devoted followers (even though they themselves have exercized their own creative freedom as much as they like i.e.; Mars)
This thread was began as a simple, informative topic about a new map, and a new game style that many people have been waiting to play. Sadly the SECOND POST was nothing more than the continuation of the "ack is an asshole" saga.
Aircraftkiller, go play RenAlert, have fun, and enjoy life.. But you might as well move-on from The Pits now, you've worn out your welcome. If you decide to stick around, don't be surprised to see me delete "worthless shit" from you when posted on my forums, and pretty much ride your ass until you leave on your own..
that is all..
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| Titan's maps vs ACK's maps (split off) [message #66864] |
Mon, 16 February 2004 12:47 |
Alkaline
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Why? He earned the right to do those maps. Not that I fear not being able to include those maps...
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Ya cause he can't make anything good himself, all the maps that are any good were made for him and he adds trees and bushes some gay neon effects.... Every map he made on his own entirely is SHIT, always will be shit, always has been shit. You play shit? Play maps made by ack from scrath the shittest maps for renegade. Don't give me that crap he has the right, he can't do shit on his own, and you backing up his crap saying his maps are good when in fact they aren't even really his , is a joke. You rules are truly fucked and you will do anything to support this physco so you shouldn't hold any retaraded little competetion at all.
All the renalert maps are retarded, open spaces pieces of crap with gay bushes every where. 1 map is the same damn thing as every other map. Renalert is also a fluke and will die in a week or so, if it were so popular why do you only have 1 renalert server istead of 2 now? Blackcell's ctf is more popular than this pos and people don't have to download anything.
ANything he made on his own is exacly what titan said, 2 bases facing each other with some random shit in the middle be it a bridge or a shit steam of water. Too bad ack has no more ww maps to jack which is why he probably stoped making maps for renegade because.
Regardless, this thread was intended for titan to tell people about his new map and ACK has to bardge and start his stupid shit, and the fag heads in charge here think its ok because its one of them who is being the bastard. God forbid if ACK posted a map release and Titan did the same thing, the thread would have been locked after the first post, or Titan's post deleted.
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| Titan's maps vs ACK's maps (split off) [message #66865] |
Mon, 16 February 2004 13:10 |
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All the renalert maps are retarded, open spaces pieces of crap with gay bushes every where. 1 map is the same damn thing as every other map. Renalert is also a fluke and will die in a week or so, if it were so popular why do you only have 1 renalert server istead of 2 now? Blackcell's ctf is more popular than this pos and people don't have to download anything.
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So says the mighty Alkaline! :rolleyes:
Hmm.. so RenAlert will die in a week or so? In case you haven't noticed, the RenAlert server, hosted by n00bstories, is nearly full 24/7, and the only time people leave is when DM_Isles comes up, since it is a deathmatch.
The reason there is now one server instead of two is because the second server (n00bsvr06) wasn't filling up as much as the first one, so Crimson temporarily shut it down.
You are attacking a whole mod team because you don't like one team member? That is the stupidest thing I have seen in a very long time. It's like me saying "LEIK OGM KRIMSUN IS A FAT WHROE ADN RENGAURD IS GONNA SUX CUZ SHE IS TEH THE PR MANAGER!!!!1111"
Seriously, grow the fuck up and pick your fights better.
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act but a habit. - Aristotle
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| Titan's maps vs ACK's maps (split off) [message #66867] |
Mon, 16 February 2004 13:18 |
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Aircraftkiller
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Aircraftkiller, go play RenAlert, have fun, and enjoy life.. But you might as well move-on from The Pits now, you've worn out your welcome. If you decide to stick around, don't be surprised to see me delete "worthless shit" from you when posted on my forums, and pretty much ride your ass until you leave on your own..
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That's great. Ban the account if you want to, went ahead and logged out, closed the page.
All that's left to ask of you is this: If you're so sick of it, why the hell are you even bothering to read it? If you don't want to read it, don't want to see it, yet put yourself through it, then I fail to see why you wanted to complain here.
And, as for riding my ass, how is that any different than what you've done for the past year? Whatever dude. Had fun while I was there.
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| Titan's maps vs ACK's maps (split off) [message #66868] |
Mon, 16 February 2004 13:22 |
msgtpain
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That's great. Ban the account if you want to, went ahead and logged out, closed the page.
All that's left to ask of you is this: If you're so sick of it, why the hell are you even bothering to read it? If you don't want to read it, don't want to see it, yet put yourself through it, then I fail to see why you wanted to complain here.
And, as for riding my ass, how is that any different than what you've done for the past year? Whatever dude. Had fun while I was there.
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Ahh yes, the infamous "you don't have to read this shit" come-back..
And if everyone followed your wise words of wisdom, there would be no need for anyone like Titan to even post informative topics about their work. Because you would flame them, people wouldn't read them, and the information would never be disseminated as intended.. But what a surprise, that's your motive anyway.. Congratulations for attempting to turn your hatred for other map makers in to a philosophical argument that is no fault of your own. How about this.. YOU stay the fuck out of them, and then we won't have to read your shit either. How's that?
I come in here to support people like Titan to let everyone else in the community know that not everyone "respected" bows down to your bullshit ways. I might as well use my name for something good..
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| Titan's maps vs ACK's maps (split off) [message #66869] |
Mon, 16 February 2004 13:28 |
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Aircraftkiller
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That's illogical, you post here about how you don't want to read it, then complain about me. I'm confident that people are able to make up their own minds about what they see.
If you don't like it, I still ask you why you're reading it. I don't like everything you post, nor do I like everything everyone else posts... I don't give them shit over it unless it's something attacking me. If I felt it my obligation to tell everyone about why I dislike reading their topics\posts, then what? Sort of pointless, isn't it?
Fact of the matter is that Crimson allows this, if she didn't want me to express my opinions on the forums, she would approach me and ask me to stop... Instead of giving me a lengthy review of my online persona and why she thinks that no one likes me or whatever else she could conjure up.
It doesn't matter if you want to attack me over this. It really doesn't. I've seen enough people who do the same thing, act like this is a life and death struggle, then try to fight some kind of holy war. Christ man, they're only opinions, and it's just a fucking online forum.
Is it really that hard for you to ignore what is written, or just not take it so seriously? I could understand if you were the focal point of all this, but you're not.
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| Titan's maps vs ACK's maps (split off) [message #66870] |
Mon, 16 February 2004 13:49 |
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You are attacking a whole mod team because you don't like one team member? That is the stupidest thing I have seen in a very long time.
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I don’t condone the attacking going on in either direction, but unfortunately for the rest of the team, that’s is pretty much the way the real world works. Each “employee” represents the company, and if they represent it poorly, i.e. poor customer relations, it reflects on the company as a whole. Customer’s don’t have to deal with it, and won’t. You can argue that there are no customers here because no one is paying for anything, but it does not change how it’s it perceived. There are plans for bigger and better things.
FYI- Crimson, the Ignore is not working properly. I’m not crying for it, I just thought it would be a good way to stop some of the flaming, unless people live to/for flame. Thanks for the feature.
Professionalism: Not only a skill set, but a mind set as well.
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| Titan's maps vs ACK's maps (split off) [message #66871] |
Mon, 16 February 2004 13:49 |
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Titan1x77
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That's illogical, you post here about how you don't want to read it, then complain about me. I'm confident that people are able to make up their own minds about what they see.
If you don't like it, I still ask you why you're reading it. I don't like everything you post, nor do I like everything everyone else posts... I don't give them shit over it unless it's something attacking me. If I felt it my obligation to tell everyone about why I dislike reading their topics\posts, then what? Sort of pointless, isn't it?
Fact of the matter is that Crimson allows this, if she didn't want me to express my opinions on the forums, she would approach me and ask me to stop... Instead of giving me a lengthy review of my online persona and why she thinks that no one likes me or whatever else she could conjure up.
It doesn't matter if you want to attack me over this. It really doesn't. I've seen enough people who do the same thing, act like this is a life and death struggle, then try to fight some kind of holy war. Christ man, they're only opinions, and it's just a fucking online forum.
Is it really that hard for you to ignore what is written, or just not take it so seriously? I could understand if you were the focal point of all this, but you're not.
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It may only be opinion's...but when i post answer's to questions,then thats not ok?
This all reverts back to why I even bothered to re-post in my thread...it seems like that's all you do is post your opinion...but when others post anything that's not up to par by you...you delete it.
I didnt come back to say who's maps were better...but you throw your opinion around so much...I figured I'd add mine.
I'll contact Tidu via a PM and see if it was vertex solve that helped his issue with the alpha textures....I'd just post up a question if his problem had been solved but he may never get to see it :rolleyes:
"But if the gameplay sucks, the looks don't matter at all." - Sir Phoenixx
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