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C&C 3 [message #65264]

Thu, 05 February 2004 20:44

boma57
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Colonel

Posted on PlanetCNC (but the quote is from GameStop) two days ago, but I just saw it...

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Freeman's game credits include script credit for upcoming titles Van Helsing, Mission Impossible: Operation Surma, and Command and Conquer 3. In the area of film and TV, Freeman has written and developed....

Note that Tiberian Sun was called C&C 2, not Red Alert.

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C&C 3 [message #65266]

Thu, 05 February 2004 20:51

IRON FART
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Yes, I saw this too. Very interesting.

I suppose Renegade must be C&C: 2 and a half.

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C&C 3 [message #65270]

Thu, 05 February 2004 21:39

England
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IRON-FART

Yes, I saw this too. Very interesting.

I suppose Renegade must be C&C: 2 and a half.

NO!

Cypher knows, but he sucks, and wont tell us.

ALL BOO CYPHER OF PCNC! BOO HIM WITH RAGE!!!!

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C&C 3 [message #65273]

Thu, 05 February 2004 21:43

SuperFlyingEngi
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BOO!!!! :angry:

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C&C 3 [message #65275]

Thu, 05 February 2004 21:47

IRON FART
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Nah, he said a few times before that there would be another C&C game. And had my reasons to believe it too.

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C&C 3 [message #65276]

Thu, 05 February 2004 21:56

England
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SuperFlyingEngi

BOO!!!! :angry:

Good Job

IRON-FART

Nah, he said a few times before that there would be another C&C game. And had my reasons to believe it too.

No shit, EA own the biggest RTS franchise on the planet, they will exploit it, i.e. Generals

/me shudders

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C&C 3 [message #65278]

Thu, 05 February 2004 22:15

warranto
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/me shudders as well

C&C 3: Tiberium Eve.

Done Generals style, with the same quality storyline.

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C&C 3 [message #65279]

Thu, 05 February 2004 22:35

bigejoe14
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Yup, we're fucked.

WHATEVER, FAGGOT

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C&C 3 [message #65284]

Fri, 06 February 2004 00:17

Blazer
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screw Generals and anything similar to it Evil or Very Mad

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C&C 3 [message #65288]

Fri, 06 February 2004 04:30

rm5248
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westwood was such a great company too.... i was thinking of buting generals because it said C&C on it.... but since westwood is no longer up, C&C just isnt the same....

curse EA!

w00t?

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C&C 3 [message #65289]

Fri, 06 February 2004 05:07

boma57
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At least, if that article is true, they've got a guy to actually write a storyline.

If anyone wrote a storyline for Generals, they must've been retarded.

Actually, though, that's really the only area that Generals sucked. Graphically and gameplay wise, it was pretty good. It's just the fact that it might as well have had no story/continuity combined with the fact that it had nothing to do with C&C that makes people hate it. So, if this new C&C is a Tiberian sequel, it has a chance as long as they put some effort into it.

If it's a Generals sequel, fuck 'em.

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C&C 3 [message #65300]

Fri, 06 February 2004 09:04

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I won't stand for another freakin' Generals. I hope this is either:

1) Renegade in the Tiberian Sun universe or...

2) A sequel to Firestorm.

Quote:

curse EA!

I hear ya. I hate Generals. I wish I never bought it. It just isn't C&C. Just a cheap game with the C&C title stuck in it to make it sell better. If someone else other than EA (Activision) owned it then maybe Westwood would still be around. But anyway. EA will never get hold of DooM III. Very Happy

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C&C 3 [message #65304]

Fri, 06 February 2004 09:13

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I really hope this is news that actually happend along time ago. If it isnt....then they have just started working on the game.

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C&C 3 [message #65321]

Fri, 06 February 2004 12:03

longbow
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Ninja312

I won't stand for another freakin' Generals. I hope this is either:

1) Renegade in the Tiberian Sun universe or...

2) A sequel to Firestorm.

1. You don't have to stand for it, just don't buy the game if you don't like it.

2. Would you really want those games above to be made? Cause if you think they made Generals like a peice of crap, then they will most prob do the same with those games.

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C&C 3 [message #65330]

Fri, 06 February 2004 13:34

NHJ BV
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Well...at least I am naively hoping for EA to actually make us a decent game.

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C&C 3 [message #65331]

Fri, 06 February 2004 13:43

msgtpain
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Maybe that's what petroglyph is working on... If they were the original developers of C&C, it would make sense for them to contract the sequals. They just have to make sure that the never sell actual 'shares' of their company to EA, just contract with them for distribution...

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C&C 3 [message #65340]

Fri, 06 February 2004 14:31

K9Trooper
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http://www.petroglyphgames.com/

Read their news. Does that not sound like a hint?

Petroglyph - October 24, 2003 signs devlopment deal!

All of us here at Petroglyph are excited to announce that we have signed a deal for a AAA title with a leading software entertainment publisher!

For strategic and contractual reasons, we are not allowed to give any details about the nature or publisher we're working with, but we can say that we couldn't have asked for a better license, project, or publisher.

R.I.P. TreyD. You will be missed, but not forgotten.

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C&C 3 [message #65341]

Fri, 06 February 2004 14:51

NHJ BV
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Colonel

They're saying that they couldn't have asked for a better (...) publisher, so that can't be EA.

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C&C 3 [message #65343]

Fri, 06 February 2004 15:23

PiMuRho
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Commander

Petroglyph aren't making a C&C game. Move along....

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C&C 3 [message #65344]

Fri, 06 February 2004 15:29

NHJ BV
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In the Jobssection however, they are looking for a Game Programmer with "PC Real-Time Strategy game programming experience a plus". This could be any RTS, however.

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C&C 3 [message #65354]

Fri, 06 February 2004 18:33

K9Trooper
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NHJ BV

They're saying that they couldn't have asked for a better (...) publisher, so that can't be EA.

But good PR and to maintain a real working relationship would call for you to "Swallow your pride" and speak of good things about them. In a way it is called "Politics or Business".

R.I.P. TreyD. You will be missed, but not forgotten.

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C&C 3 [message #65357]

Fri, 06 February 2004 19:04

rm5248
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NHJ BV

In the Jobssection however, they are looking for a Game Programmer with "PC Real-Time Strategy game programming experience a plus". This could be any RTS, however.

Well, Red Alert was given the "Best real-time strategy game of the year" award by PC gamer a few years ago. And of course Westwood (GREAT company) is now owned by EA (BAD company) and Westwood made C&C, so anyway, back to where I was before, could be EA, becuase people quit. Okay, I'm not making any sense. I'll shutup. Razz

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C&C 3 [message #65368]

Fri, 06 February 2004 20:27

gibberish
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Excluding Renegade I am still of the opinion that the first C&C was the best C&C title that Westwood ever made.

The reason I say this is that it was extremely well polished.
- The story line was excellent.
- It had real actors in the cinematic scenes.
- The game play was well balanced both in terms of Nod/GDI
and in terms of the units you had to choose from as either side. **
- The in game graphics were good (for the time).
- It was a huge amount of fun to play on a LAN.

** - I can remember games where someone sold everything to do massive infantry rushes Smile

However later titles seemed to be a bit rushed.
For example I think it was Red-Alert (1) that had really unbalanced sides, where it really sucked to be Allied, unless the map had water (hence you could build destroyers) in which case it sucked to be USSR.

But with today�s fast hardware writing a top down RTS such as C&C should not be that difficult.

The real problem areas would be:
- Balancing the Units.
- AI players.
- Creating the cinematic scenes.

Since a freebee game doesn�t really need the cinematic scenes you could just omit them.

So I would suggest that if you want a really great C&C 3 you could just write it yourself (there seems to be a lot of talent in the mod forum).

Writing this type of game is a much easier prospect than trying to write a full 3D game such as Renegade.

Just my 2 cents
Gib

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C&C 3 [message #65387]

Sat, 07 February 2004 03:04

NHJ BV
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NHJ BV

They're saying that they couldn't have asked for a better (...) publisher, so that can't be EA.

But good PR and to maintain a real working relationship would call for you to "Swallow your pride" and speak of good things about them. In a way it is called "Politics or Business".

True; I was being sarcastic. I should've put a smiley there Smile

Anyway, they are producing an AAA RTS title from a well-known publisher etc. This all screams C&C. However, I fail to understand why EA would first "consolidate" (read: shut down) Westwood and start making C&C 's themselves, only to delegate that task to a new non-EA company with Westwood-employees all over the place. It makes no sense.

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C&C 3 [message #65388]

Sat, 07 February 2004 03:08

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Because they want to make C&C: General Sims' Need for Speed.

"C&C, The Sims and Need for Speed game all in one pack? We're going to be richer than Bill Gates!"

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