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(OT) Server for home computer [message #64596] Sun, 01 February 2004 14:11 Go to next message
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Hello all, I am going to get a new computer next month, and I got a suggestion from my Dad to get a rack mounted server, as he works with them for a living, and could install a graphics card, etc. I was looking through Compaq's servers yesterday, noticed that I could get a system with 4 gigs of memory, a 200 gig hard drive, 2 USB ports, mouse/keyboard hookups, 2 PCI slots, a monitor hookup, and a CD rom drive, for around $3,000. Unfortunately for me, it seems like the only Operating systems offered on these things are windows server and linux, keeping me from running any games on them. My question is, would it be possible to somehow install windows XP onto one of these servers, fit a graphics card into it somehow, get a USB sound card, and have the fastest gaming computer on planet earth?

Just curious...There's gotta be a catch.


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(OT) Server for home computer [message #64604] Sun, 01 February 2004 14:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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that server probably doens't even have an AGP slot, most rack server are meant to crunch numbers and process task, their main asset is ram and cpu speed.

You would be much better getting a computer form alienware.com or hypersonic-pc.com then trying to fix up a computer.


(OT) Server for home computer [message #64624] Sun, 01 February 2004 15:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That rackmount is built to be a server, not a gaming machine. Even if you could get XP on there and get a good graphics card, it would still not perform as great as an average gaming machine.

But if you are thinking of spending $3000, then just get an alienware or something. You can host servers etc on it, and you can use it for serious gaming.
(OT) Server for home computer [message #64639] Sun, 01 February 2004 16:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Another good idea is to get a barebones model and do the rest. That is, if you want to go through the task of doing so, even though it isn't that hard.

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Re: (OT) Server for home computer [message #64647] Sun, 01 February 2004 16:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The only Operating systems offered on these things are windows server and linux


Windows 2000 server runs renegade fine, as previously mentioned the problem is gonna be the graphics card and memory access.
Servers are not designed for gaming and games are not (usually) designed for servers (they don't use the extra processors and are not optimized for Xeon's).

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(OT) Server for home computer [message #64658] Sun, 01 February 2004 17:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If money is not the biggest problem. You have two good options:

1. Build an amazing system yourself with great parts

2. Go to the best damm people in the business http://www.alienware.com
(OT) Server for home computer [message #64717] Sun, 01 February 2004 22:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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(OT) Server for home computer [message #64720] Sun, 01 February 2004 22:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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WOW those are some insane comps....but the prices start at $3500!
(OT) Server for home computer [message #64735] Mon, 02 February 2004 00:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Couldn't you just get a new motherboard and shuv it in there? My motherboard can hand 3GB of RAM, so i dunno, just an idea? Smile

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(OT) Server for home computer [message #64736] Mon, 02 February 2004 01:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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WOW those are some insane comps....but the prices start at $3500!


Not necessarily, there are systems on that site that start less than that, plus are customizable.


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(OT) Server for home computer [message #64744] Mon, 02 February 2004 09:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm building a system for someone at the moment, a standard home PC, but they wanted me to max the board out with RAM. I said I could do it for £200 for 4 512MB DIMMS, they originally wanted the full 3GB, which costs around £800 (2x 512, 2x 1GB) due to the silly price of a 1GB DIMM at the moment.

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(OT) Server for home computer [message #64747] Mon, 02 February 2004 10:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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3 GB.. Shocked
1 GB is still nuts, 2 is more than enough..
But 3?? Only if you're doing heavy 3d modelling, or running 50 other programs at the same time.


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(OT) Server for home computer [message #64749] Mon, 02 February 2004 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They are a photographer and use a lot of photoshop features. Genrally working with huge images like up to 15 megapixel in uncompressed TIFF format so you need a lot of RAM to be handling them files.

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(OT) Server for home computer [message #64750] Mon, 02 February 2004 10:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm building a system for someone at the moment, a standard home PC, but they wanted me to max the board out with RAM. I said I could do it for £200 for 4 512MB DIMMS, they originally wanted the full 3GB, which costs around £800 (2x 512, 2x 1GB) due to the silly price of a 1GB DIMM at the moment.


Speaking of RAM, I need 1GB of PC3200 Very Happy

Cheaper to get 2 x 512DDR PC3200 or 1 x 1024DDR PC3200?

Any ideas? Site URLs?


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(OT) Server for home computer [message #64752] Mon, 02 February 2004 10:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Go for the 2 x 512MB if you have the room. The price difference depends on the brand but on average you save £100 - £200 going with the 2 DIIMS rather than a 1GB DIMM. The places I genrally order components from are:

http://www.dabs.com/uk/channels/components/memoryandaccessories/productView.htm?quicklinx=2NDF (kingston ValueRAM)

http://www.dabs.com/uk/channels/components/memoryandaccessories/productView.htm?quicklinx=2NYS (Crucial Technology)

http://www.dabs.com (Cheap P&P)
http://www.komplett.co.uk
http://www.tekheads.co.uk
http://www.overclock.co.uk
http://www.ebuyer.com

I use different e-tailers for different products. dabs.com is an all round general supplier of everything and offers cheap P&P, I normally use that. For more specific items such as as the ATI Remote Wonder and specific brands, ebuyer and tekheads offer a better choice.


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(OT) Server for home computer [message #64755] Mon, 02 February 2004 11:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, dabs.com is a very good one, but its for residents of the UK.

Or you could just buy it straight from the manufacturer.
http://www.crucial.com
(OT) Server for home computer [message #64756] Mon, 02 February 2004 11:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I posted the UK ones as I know he lives in the UK Smile

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(OT) Server for home computer [message #64757] Mon, 02 February 2004 11:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes i live in the UK Smile

Thanks for the links, i'll check them out now.

I have 3 DDR slots capable of 3GB, 1GB will do me fine Very Happy (currently have 1024DDR PC2100 Confused)

Plus i want to overclock Razz

Thanks again!


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(OT) Server for home computer [message #64770] Mon, 02 February 2004 13:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What're the rest of your specs?
If you're AMD, I'd suggest Kingston HyperX or OCZ EL 433 (3500)..
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(OT) Server for home computer [message #64772] Mon, 02 February 2004 13:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I bought two sticks of Crucial 512 MB DDR 333 from eBuyer about 4 months ago.

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=42149

I had Generic RAM before that was okay, about 786 MB of it. My brother got his comp upgraded and needed some RAM so I gave him my old Generic RAM in favor for this.
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But those are comps are something you would not ordinarly get even you had buckets of money.
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I wouldn't mind one of them Smile

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4GHz already? Shocked
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Dunno. But 4Ghz has been around since the P4 3.06 chip. If you own a Prometia cooling system then you can overclock it to 4Ghz. The Prometia system cools the CPU down to around -30 C and allows you to overclock it if you have right hardware.

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