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			| pooling resorces [message #63531] | Sun, 25 January 2004 08:35   |  
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	| and y not? what harm can it do? oh yea, over through ACKs regime of terror!! 
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			| pooling resorces [message #63539] | Sun, 25 January 2004 10:00   |  
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	| yea, cause ACK gets in on it. I have already got one reply e-mail from someone, I wont release there email provider, but their s/n for it is "andrew.darke" aslong as ACK dont find this/lock it, we should be fine 
 "you cant demand respect, you have to earn it." -- Dufis791 (me)
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			| pooling resorces [message #63561] | Sun, 25 January 2004 12:57   |  
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	| thats y this should be done.....credit should be given.....this will require honesty. 
 basically its just using the GPL (GNU Public Licence)
 
 credit is given, and its free. the more in on this, the better maps that can result
 
 "you cant demand respect, you have to earn it." -- Dufis791 (me)
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			| pooling resorces [message #63659] | Mon, 26 January 2004 13:00   |  
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	| this topic has been unlocked by me, there doesn't seem to be anything offensive, etc... in this topic. 
 
 If you guys want to talk about a mod, no problem, but lay off the moderator flaming, as that is an offensible problem.
 
 
 This all sounds like a half way decent idea, but you guys really need to do more modding then talking, that happens a lot, people say "i want to do this mod with all this kewl stuff", they disappear for a month, then come back and say they canceled it, or something.
 
 Good luck, and keep those modding thoughts going, just don't forget to actually mod.
 
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			| pooling resorces [message #63693] | Mon, 26 January 2004 16:45   |  
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	| ACK does do criticise a lot, I will admit. But he is a very good mapper and deserves respect. But I would definately be on the side of asking him to try being either more helpful, or less active on some posts from noob mappers. I mean come on ACK, even you had to start at some point, right? No body just downloads a program and knows it all just like that. And even if you found out by not asking help, working with Westwood, and from your own trial and error, no body criticises you for learning your own way.
 So let people learn theirs. If you think it's n00bish or whatever, don't insult them because of it. If anything, give them a good comment to get them started.
 After all, any mapper that maps for credit is a failure. A mapper who maps for their own personal pleasure, credit or not, successful or not, is a good mapper.
 It isn't the quantity of your good maps, it's your effort and thoughts put into a map. Sure, you have a hell of a lot of really nicely made maps, Aircraftkiller, but I'm sure you would have a mental if somebody stole something out of it.
 It's you're property, don't get me wrong, but it isn't anything to put others down over. I've helped people with models and maps and sometimes I don't get credited. And then I laugh about how people think it's so good, and that he's such a good mapper, and I feel great because I did it, credit or not.
 By the time we're all 30, no body will remember anyone, so just make maps and be happy and play them on servers and THINK to yourself about how successful your map became, and don't BRAG about how you made the map and how successful it became.
 
 I don't know about you guys, but credit seems to be making this earth just another rock in space to me.
 
 
  
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			| pooling resorces [message #63748] | Mon, 26 January 2004 23:25   |  
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	| Please stop locking this topic. 
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			| pooling resorces [message #63757] | Tue, 27 January 2004 00:19   |  
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	| /me wonders who the "you" is that Ack is refering too... 
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			| pooling resorces [message #63769] | Tue, 27 January 2004 06:37   |  
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	| If this was a mod that this was about, than getting a team to create it is great, but just a single fucking map? That's the same thing as asking in a thread to get a team together to create a single model, or a single skin, or a cursor, it's fucking stupid. These things are supposed to be created by a single person, not having one person model the terrain, than someone else apply the texture, than someone else adding buildings, etc. that's like having someone model the turret, than someone model the treads, than someone model the body, etc. of a vehicle model. 
 .:Red Alert: A Path Beyond Modeler:.
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 If anyone needs any help with using 3dsmax, or gmax feel free to contact me.
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			| pooling resorces [message #63785] | Tue, 27 January 2004 10:22   |  
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	| | Quote: |  | You can "pool resources" all you want, the problem lies with YOU, not the resources
 
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 Tutorials at Dantes ModX including RenHelp & Renegade Mod FAQ
 General Havoc's Tutorial Collection
 Läubi's Tutorial Collection
 Easy Terrain by Genocide
 Harvester without WF/Airstrip by Läubi
 Alpha-Blending by Killer Bee
 Using the Boolean Tool by Captkurt
 Texturing your map by Captkurt
 Stealth Zones by General Havoc
 Flag Tutorial by General Havoc
 Teleport Tutorial by General Havoc
 Working Teleporters by General Havoc
 UVW Skin Tutorial by Läubi
 Creating Basic Terrain by SomeRhino
 Animated Computer Screens by StoneRook
 Making Doors by Läubi
 Harvester Pathfinding by Läubi
 Weapon Hand Positions by Läubi
 Vehicle Boning by BrainSpitter
 Making a MIX Format Map by CaptKurt
 How To Use Text Cinematics by Dante
 Renegade Modding FAQ by General Havoc & Stonerook
 LevelEdit Commands by Captkurt
 Creating Water by Captkurt
 Mesh Smoothing by Genocide
 How to create a Weapon by Läubi
 Aggregates and Emitters by Bumpaneer
 Tank Tutorial by Killakanz
 Boolean Tutorial Video by Havoc89
 Ingrownlip's Tutorials Collection
 Proxy Bone Tutorial by StoneRook
 Shadow Projection Tutorial by StoneRook
 Animated Computer Screens Tutorial by StoneRook
 Damage Aggregates with Parent/Child by StoneRook
 GLB Plugin for 3DSMax Tutorial by Michael Little
 Eqvaliser´s Tutorials Page by Eqvaliser
 Dedicated VIS tutorial for the Dedicated by YSLMuffins
 
 There are some useful (SOME) tutorials here such as vis and how to make .mix.  They are perfect examples of tutorials that are specific and to the point.  Unfortunately, some of the elites in mapping however angry they get at us for asking  questions about mapping fail to realize that there are huge gaps in the process of starting more than a basic map. I must say most of these tutorials, along with cnc den and then hq arent adequate enough once we pass the basic map understanding into more advanced skills.  Kinda like going from 6th to 10th grade.
 
 edit-I know there are more sites on mapping, but they prove vague or repetitive as well.
 
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			| pooling resorces [message #63788] | Tue, 27 January 2004 10:38   |  
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	| How is haveing a team for one map a bad idea? 
 Say the map has new buildings, new vehicles, new weapons, and new characters. Would it still be a bad idea to have a team work on it? Maps are more then just the terrain...
 
 Unlike a skin, or a cursor where there is only one part, a map has many parts. Haveing people working on individual parts does not seem like a problem to me.
 
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			| pooling resorces [message #63821] | Tue, 27 January 2004 15:58   |  
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	| no one was blaming anyone. now, if ppl where good at one thing, combined w/ others good at other things, then that would work. get good at one thing, and help the comunity with that one thing. and others do the same. then ppl can put that together in their maps, with some things of their own. dont hide your modles, SHARE them!  i know i would, but i suck at making modles, and my maps are soso. 
 "you cant demand respect, you have to earn it." -- Dufis791 (me)
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