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Auto Mod map download ? So server installs maps on clients? [message #61666] Mon, 12 January 2004 14:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Beanyhead is currently offline  Beanyhead
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And.. I don't know if it's a random bug, or if it is a 'feature'.. but I've never been able to extract a map in to my data folder WHILE renegade is running, and have it be able to be played. It will always put me in that scene where there's a big blue circle below me and I'm falling over and over.
I have to shut down and restart renegade for them to work.

If this happens ALWAYS, then an autodownload is sort of pointless.


Dont quote me on this since we have not coded any autodownload code yet, but the "plans" are for the RG client to autodownload maps from the site specified by the server owner. The maps will be placed in a temporary directory, and a message will be sent telling you that the download is complete and will go into effect when you restart renegade. Upon quitting renegade RG will uncompress the maps and move them to your data dir and restart renegade for you.


I've been able to put maps in my data folder, and they work, while playing but not at the server listings...
Auto Mod map download ? So server installs maps on clients? [message #61672] Mon, 12 January 2004 14:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I also don't have to reload Renegade. But I only have to Reconnect to WOL. In the server list even after downloading the map, the server list will still say I don't have the map. After reconnecting it's fine.

Size doesn't matter.
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Auto Mod map download ? So server installs maps on clients? [message #61690] Mon, 12 January 2004 16:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ACK, why don't you include who the original map maker was in all your readmes?

I see only in glacier where it says who the original map maker was, the rest of your maps, you don't mention the original author, so you are guilty of the same thing you tell others, in fact you are worse because you are just ripping off westwood maps.

anyway, I see no point in adding your readmes to maps because everyone know who made them, and just because your readmes aren't included doesn't mean the server host is taking credit. If you have a problem with that you can make your maps non-public. Because obviously you use a lot of things that you don't give credit for in your maps, why should we be required to be any different?


How would you know about the readme.txt files? After all, you gratuitously removed each readme.txt file with all of my levels and tossed them into some "map pack" without even consulting me about it.

We've all been through this "omg! hes stealzoring ww mapz!!!" It's all been proven wrong, numerous times. I'll run it over with you once more:

1. You're some random person online who probably hasn't been here since the first time I released anything with the assistance of Westwood Studios.

2. You obviously don't know what happened between WS and myself.

3. You don't even know that Louis Castle, co-founder of WS, was the one who authorized me to have everything that I do now.

If you want to continue this, sure, go right ahead... Just remember that you don't have all the facts, and it's rather difficult to argue about something you know fuck all about.

If everyone knew "who I was" when they used something I made, why is it that I still have a lot of people saying "you didnt make this, aircraftkiller did" when I go into Renegade, even after stating who I am when asking for their opinions?

Come on now...


first of all I included your readmes in the map pack downloads.

2nd, here is the readme direct from your cncden website for MetroTS

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=====Renegade Map Readme======
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A real special thanks goes out to NeoSaber, also part of the Renegade Alert modification team, for making the new version of Metro work properly. Textures had corrupted, and he fixed them for me. Highly appreciated!

Map Name: C&C MetroTS | Version 2.1

Fixed an issue with the Stealth Tank giving off too many points.

Creator: Aircraftkiller

Email: aircraftkiller@cncgames.com

Website: http://aircraftkiller.blogspot.com

Theatre: Urban city

Description: A map set at night in a crowded urban city. Tiberium sewage flows through the ditches and a Tiberium impact area in the city provides the GDI and Nod forces with a place to harvest raw Tiberium. Look out underground in the Tiberium sewage tunnels and make sure not to fall into the ditches, as Tiberium sewage kills slowly and painfully. The tunnels are located by the vehicle production structures. They are disguised.


Homepage: http://www.cncrenegade.info ; http://www.cncden.com

This file is the property of the creator, all rights and copyrights belong to him. This file is exclusive to Renegade Realm and C&C Den. Do not copy, alter, or claim credit for this skin without permission from the webmaster and creator.


Where does it say who the original creator was? I don't see it any where :rolleyes: similiarly in many of your other maps, you take full credit for maps that you borrowed from westwood, that is IN FACT STEALING.
Auto Mod map download ? So server installs maps on clients? [message #61696] Mon, 12 January 2004 16:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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so basically my point is, if you give westwood no credit for maps you completed, I see no point in giving you any credit when people download your maps.
Auto Mod map download ? So server installs maps on clients? [message #61701] Mon, 12 January 2004 17:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, I'd say, that's not your call. Westwood didn't have a problem with anything he did with the maps, so you shouldn't either.

I'm the bawss.
Auto Mod map download ? So server installs maps on clients? [message #61703] Mon, 12 January 2004 17:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And not to be completely negative or anything, but in ALL HONESTY, do you think people read the readme's as it is?

If a map were to be automatically downloaded, are you planning on spamming up a window once it extracts that shows the readme?

Do you think they aren't going to be hitting ESC about as fast as they can so that they can just go play?

Are you going to put a timer on the window or something that forces them to look at it for 12 seconds?

I know you don't care, and we've chatted about this before; are you making the maps so people will pat you on the back? or because you just like to do it? I still think someone needs a small piece of humble pie...
Auto Mod map download ? So server installs maps on clients? [message #61706] Mon, 12 January 2004 17:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Beanyhead

]I've been able to put maps in my data folder, and they work, while playing but not at the server listings...


Hmmm every time I ever tried I get the exit to desktop bug Sad
Auto Mod map download ? So server installs maps on clients? [message #61707] Mon, 12 January 2004 17:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm sure if you spent as much time as I did working on this stuff, you'd like to make sure that you got due credit for what was made. People do read them... If you don't, or whoever else you know doesn't, that does not mean that others will not read them. I get e-mails on a daily basis from people asking for help or trying to know why this or that is on a specific level... Without the readme.txt, who's going to know who to contact, and who made it?

Furthermore, would you install something that didn't have some sort of assurance that it isn't a viral file? Readme files provide that assurance, showing people that someone made it with good intentions.

I like it when I can talk to people who have played what I make. Especially when they offer suggestions. Kinda sucks when I would have to go around saying "yeah, I made this even though you don't believe me and won't listen to anything I say about it" because of a missing text file.
Auto Mod map download ? So server installs maps on clients? [message #61711] Mon, 12 January 2004 17:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kinda sucks when I would have to go around saying "yeah, I made this even though you don't believe me and won't listen to anything I say about it" because of a missing text file.


So, all I have to do is replace that little text file with one that I write and *poof*, I created the level? Seems too easy to me :rolleyes:

People know you made the levels, they can see that everywhere they look online. All they have to do is post in any number of forums or sites that they get the files from, and they will easily be pointed in the right direction.

If you think your name and short description in a text file assures me that there are no virii in the file it accompanies, you're sadly mistaken..

No one's arguing that you should indeed be able to bask in the glory of your work.. All I'm saying is, you need to take a few precautions so you don't get a sun burn..
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ACK you could do what the Counterstrike mappers do and put a tattoo on the map. Either behind a wall or somewhere in the map like on the peak of a mountain. Just a little like AircraftKiller insignia and the year it was made. I think that'd look kinda coolio personally. Then people'd see it too, more than see a readme. Plus if people don't beleive you in game you can be like "look up... MWAHAHHA"

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I still like the idea of a plaque on the wall inside a building or a message on the HON console. That way your level is "signed" and readme or not eveyrone knows you made it and it cannot be easily altered.
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See I can have a good idea every once in a while! Razz

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Go back 12 posts and look around....
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A pictures worth a thousand words. ;P

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Kinda sucks when I would have to go around saying "yeah, I made this even though you don't believe me and won't listen to anything I say about it" because of a missing text file.


So, all I have to do is replace that little text file with one that I write and *poof*, I created the level? Seems too easy to me :rolleyes:

People know you made the levels, they can see that everywhere they look online. All they have to do is post in any number of forums or sites that they get the files from, and they will easily be pointed in the right direction.

If you think your name and short description in a text file assures me that there are no virii in the file it accompanies, you're sadly mistaken..

No one's arguing that you should indeed be able to bask in the glory of your work.. All I'm saying is, you need to take a few precautions so you don't get a sun burn..


I've had that happen before. When it does, the C&C community steps up to the plate and takes over, basically blacklisting the person who did it... I know what you're saying, though.

They don't always look everywhere... Don't you remember the incidents with people who couldn't figure out how to jump higher in Mars? If what you say is true, I doubt people are going to read a line of text on the download saying who made it. Sad
Auto Mod map download ? So server installs maps on clients? [message #61722] Mon, 12 January 2004 17:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If autodownload ever makes it into RG, maybe when you join a server a box could pop up showing the readme or something.
EDIT: erm.. i seem to have posted a bit late lol

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if auto download is ever invented, be sure sure not to use any ack maps because he will bitch at you till you bleed. Mad
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Yeah, God forbid I ask people to respect myself and what I create when using my work... I guess when I go over to your house someday in the far, far future, I'll shit all over your sink and piss in your food, just because you offered to let me go inside.
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I'd pay to see that.

I'm the bawss.
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crimson pays to see shit and piss... no wonder she's asking for donations :rolleyes: Laughing


Anyway ack, if you make it pass my dogs, you can come to my house, but any of that pissing and shitting and you would be executed on the spot.
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"Oh yeah, well, well, I can't beat you in a battle of minds so I'll kick your ass!"

Just say that and spare us the macho act. I mean, do you SERIOUSLY think ACK meant he would LITERALLY shit on your sink? Good lord...


I'm the bawss.
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Ack have you ever thought about "signing" your maps? I don't mean like the huge billboard in Paradox Harbor, I mean like having a small plaque on a wall in one of the buildings saying you made the map? That way the proof of whose it is is right there, and cannot be overlooked like a readme file Smile


Haha...I actually never thought about that little mesh actually being a 'signature'...I just thought it would have made a nice prop...

I don't, however, see the practicality of autodownloading fan maps...perhaps the desktop crash thing might be resolved if the thu file was included. I don't know, but that just might defeat the whole purpose, but it would help all those lazy people who don't feel like navigating to links sometimes to find maps. -_-


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Ack have you ever thought about "signing" your maps? I don't mean like the huge billboard in Paradox Harbor, I mean like having a small plaque on a wall in one of the buildings saying you made the map? That way the proof of whose it is is right there, and cannot be overlooked like a readme file Smile


Haha...I actually never thought about that little mesh actually being a 'signature'...I just thought it would have made a nice prop...

I don't, however, see the practicality of autodownloading fan maps...perhaps the desktop crash thing might be resolved if the thu file was included. I don't know, but that just might defeat the whole purpose, but it would help all those lazy people who don't feel like navigating to links sometimes to find maps. -_-


Heh yeah its a nice prop on paradox harbor, I just meant something that large would look out of place on a "standard" C&C map. I do think its would be neat for map authors to have something in the map that shows they made it.
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The mapmakers should do something funny like put a giant statue of themselves in the middle of the base!!!
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