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Sat, 10 January 2004 14:20

Javaxcx
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Not a single person can make a logical arguement and conclude on the existance or non-existance of God (like the direction of this arguement).

Look at it this way: (and I base this off Christianity, but the same principles apply universally)

So-called atheists deny the existence of God. That is the bottom line. If there was any doubt to that statement, at the very most, they would still be agnostic atheists (ones who believe that it is improbable that there is a God). Secondly, since Atheists deny God's existence, the ONLY recourse is to believe exclusively upon science and logic. This is their fatal flaw:
Since the universe has not been measured in every way, to the smallest piece of matter, etc... Atheists cannot logically say that "God does not exist". If a so-called Atheist makes that statement, they are a hypocrite in that they base a logic off an unproven theory. Unproven theories may have a logical deduction to them, however they cannot EVER be called logical unless proven (which hasn't/can't be done because of the size of universe).

THEREFORE: Since a hypocritical logic cannot exist, you can't call yourself an atheist (without looking like a total moron).

On the flipside however, it doesn't look much brighter for theists. The typical Christian theist believes totally in God. Regardless of religion, to be a theist requires faith. Faith demands the individual to accept unproven facts based on the testimony of others. If one has complete faith in God (in reference to Christianity), one must therefore accept the contents of the Bible as truth. Since the contents of the Bible are not completely proven factual, the Bible must be taken in faith. If faith is the acceptance of unproven facts, and it is not logical to unequivocally believe what cannot be proven true, unequivocally believing in God is illogical. Theism is therefore a foolish concept as it does not follow a logical principle. Not to offend, but it IS foolish to accept unproven facts as truth -- look up fool in the dictionary. At the VERY least, you have to be agnostic-theists, (ones who pretain to the idea that God PROBABLY exists).

So why you people try and make a logical debate pretaining to God? Beats me, because neither of you are right, nor can be right. Smile

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