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Thu, 08 January 2004 16:45   |
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rm5248
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here are some more questions:
1. if god didnt have a wife, how did he have a son?
2. since he had a son, why didnt he have more kids?
3. why do we have origianal sin if we did not do it?
(sorry to all the people who may be offeded as they are different religion etc.)
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| Please Stop [message #61099] |
Thu, 08 January 2004 17:12 |
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spreegem
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I don't care whether or not someone is gay, that is their personal sexual preference. . . As long as they stay away from me
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God made men. God made women. If god wanted us to have sex with the same race then either one or the other would not have been made. The goal of life and survival is to make babies, you need a man and a woman to make babies. Therefor, they arent doing their part in the world. Waste of a spot if you ask me. But, if your both a man lover and a woman lover, then its not AS BAD, but still bad IMO.
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You meant same sex, not same race because no matter what if your male or female you are of the human race. I never said that being gay is right, or wrong, I just don't care whether or not someone is gay as long as they stay away from me, as says in the small text in my own quote. I do not think that being gay is proper though because we are meant to, like you said, create children. I don't really care whether or not someone is gay though because that is your sexual preference and as long as it isn't contageous I have no problem with you, unless of course you try and do something to me. All of you "anti-gays" are fine in expressing your feelings on people being gay, but there is no stopping it people just are that way. I heard in health class when we were studying sexually transmitte diseases that mainly gays have HIV and AIDS, is this true? because if so and people know that why would they want to be gay? I would think that if that was true and people knew it there would be a dramatic decline in gays and all of you anti-gays would not be able to complain as much because the ammount of gays in society would be much less than it currently is, and gayness would be much less common, maybe even unheard of in some places. I am not gay, nor am I fighting for their cause, I am just stating what I feel on the issue of gays.
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| Please Stop [message #61100] |
Thu, 08 January 2004 17:14 |
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IRON FART
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No it's not. I don't want to get into a big thing here, but it's not. If you disagree with me, you're wrong.
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He's right...
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| Please Stop [message #61101] |
Thu, 08 January 2004 17:21 |
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mrpirate
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It is NOT OK to hate gay people. Normally, I have no problem with peoples' opinions for or against something. However, people have been known to kill gay people because they think it's "wrong." This is just another scenario in which I find religious people to be very creepy.
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Thu, 08 January 2004 17:21 |
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Yano
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here are some more questions:
1. if god didnt have a wife, how did he have a son?
2. since he had a son, why didnt he have more kids?
3. why do we have origianal sin if we did not do it?
(sorry to all the people who may be offeded as they are different religion etc.)
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You idiot, have you ever even read the bible?
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| Please Stop [message #61104] |
Thu, 08 January 2004 17:26 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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When he said different religions to not be offended, I think he meant that he wasn't a Christian or other religious group that believes in the bible...
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| Please Stop [message #61107] |
Thu, 08 January 2004 17:39 |
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mrpirate
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Well, if I were like a lot of people here, I could hate them for it.
Subjective morality seems to have everything to do with why you dislike gay people. (You collectively, not just Aircraftkiller).
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Thu, 08 January 2004 17:42 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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There's nothing wrong with having personal feelings, but actually getting mad at people or even hating them because of something they didn't do [like, for instance, being gay] isn't cool with me.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| Please Stop [message #61111] |
Thu, 08 January 2004 18:29 |
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| rm5248 |
here are some more questions:
1. if god didnt have a wife, how did he have a son?
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Luke 1:26-38
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3. why do we have origianal sin if we did not do it?
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You sinned, I sinned, everybody sinned. We inherited this sinful nature from Adam. But NOW we can be saved by the blood of Jesus Christ. Jesus is our passover (Heb. 9:11-14).
Okay, I think being gay is wrong and not God's intent for sex. I also find it irrational and stupid to say that people are "born gay." You can obviously CHOOSE to be gay or not. However, I do not hate gays. I hate homosexuality but NOT the homosexual.
Now back to the original topic of the thread... If the KKK wants to be part of the Adopt-a-Highway program, so be it, this is America. And if they don't feel like cleaning up the road, so be it, it only hurts them.
God is the "0wnage". Plain and Simple.
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| Please Stop [message #61116] |
Thu, 08 January 2004 19:00 |
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IRON FART
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Subjective morality has nothing to do with it. There's nothing you can do about what others feel.
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Lets just push morality to the side for a moment.
It may be ok in the eyes of individuals to hate certain people. Doesn't matter if some people are the world's biggest racists. But if they go out and kill those people like the KKK have done in the past, then thats certainly not OK.
It is OK to hate gays if you keep it to yourself, but if you openly say you hate them, or if you kill them, harass them or discrimitate them, then thats immoral and that is not OK.
As for being gay...If you are gay its because you are BORN that way or you grow up that way (and i don't mean social interference). They can't avoid it, so it's not their fault. It's not wrong. It is pretty illogical to say otherwise. And NO i do not read the bible, and if the bible says that "it was not god's intent" for people to be that way, well it was not "god's intent" for people to have 6 toes, or hair covering their face, or to have no hands and legs, be 2-foot tall... but guess what. It happens.
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You can obviously CHOOSE to be gay or not.
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Can you? I don't remember that part when I was due to arrive. :rolleyes:
And let the KKK adopt a highway. They are not hurting anyone.
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| Please Stop [message #61117] |
Thu, 08 January 2004 19:10 |
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Javaxcx
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I think there is a slight misunderstanding on what is "wrong" and what is "gay". MrPirate said it, I believe, that the act of sex should be only between a man and a woman, and that is true for the reasons he stated. Now, you can be gay, and not have sex. It's entirely possible -- but that is in no way wrong. The Catholic religion (at least) accepts gay people, however frowns upon the act of sex in a gay relationship. That is viewed as "wrong" as far as the Church goes. Of course, you can be a hypocrite and say that you think all gay people (and no, you don't have to be intimate with the same sex to be gay) are morally "wrong", but as Aircraftkiller said, you can't tell people what to feel.
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| Please Stop [message #61126] |
Thu, 08 January 2004 19:48 |
MonkeyPhonic
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To quot Eddie Izzard
'I don't mind people being homophobic, so long as they do it behind closed doors and don't hurt anyone'
As for the KKK and their bit of road, if they want to keep it clean and put their name on it, thats fine. But surely people who are going to mess it up deliberately are being a bit backward. Would they kick each other in the nuts if the kkk sponsored underpants?
--- ' I'm not claiming to know the book through and through because I don't, in fact I know very little. And yes, I'll base my morality off on it any day.'---
Thats the most stupidly ignorant thing I've heard in a long while on this forum. You base your morality on a book you haven't read? So how do you know what the morality is? I mean for all you know there are pages in the bible forbiding the use of strawberies on a wednesday. If you want to live your life by it, fine. Just try and know what your living your life by.
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| Please Stop [message #61127] |
Thu, 08 January 2004 19:56 |
MonkeyPhonic
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Good point, it pays to remember it wasn't written in English. For example the commandment 'Thou shall not kill' was miss translated from 'Thou shall not Murder'. Which raises all sorts of moral questions about euthanasia, abortion, etc.
Or the miss translation of the Word 'Virgin', which was 'originaly Young' woman. Translation is difficult, and subtle mistakes can have a big impact.
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I believe much of the Bible is right, yes, and as a Christian I support it. However you cannot take every word verbatim as law.
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