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| Renegade Alert Weapons Update: M16A1 [message #56013] |
Wed, 26 November 2003 22:07   |
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| Renegade Alert Weapons Update: M16A1 [message #56305] |
Sat, 29 November 2003 16:23 |
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No it shouldn't, it was already decided that we're giving it auto and 3 round burst.
No one cares what you would make it have. It was already decided that it will use the 30 round magazine.
(And, the 30 round magazine was NEVER used back when the M16A1 was in use (in Vietnam), the 30 round magazine wasn't issued until the M16A2, after Vietnam)
Remember, this is Red Alert, what time a weapon/magazine/etc. was first used has little to do with what the weapons should be. (The M16 wouldn't have come around for another 10-15 years after Red Alert)
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| Renegade Alert Weapons Update: M16A1 [message #56402] |
Sun, 30 November 2003 13:54 |
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| Nodbugger |
um the m16 was put into service in 1964. But was ready for service in 1955.
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The M16 was first put into service in 1968. The very first tests of this new weapon was done in the beginning of 1958. You go by when they first started using it, not when they invented the damn thing.
http://star-spangled.narod.ru/60_nam_m16.htm
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Red Alert only takes place a few eyars before this.
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A few years before what? You provided two years (which were wrong).
Red Alert took place between the 40s and 50s, at least 10-15 years or so before the M16 was first put into service.
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There is no m16 variant with auto and 3 round burst. Its a total waste of ammo. Either single and auto or single and 3 round burst. With this gun and the game id go with auto and single.
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Yes there is... The Renegade Alert variant. It was already decided that the M16 that we'll include will have auto and 3 round burst.
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and they didnt widely issue the 30 round magazine. The xm117 and carbine versions of the m16 used by special ops had 30 round magazines. They just never gave them to anyone using the m16a1.
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"At the same time (circa 1970) the new 30 rounds magazines were introduced into service instead of the original 20 rounds ones, to equal Soviet and Chinese AK-47 assault rifles, which had 30-rounds magazines from the very beginning." - http://world.guns.ru/assault/as18-e.htm
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| Renegade Alert Weapons Update: M16A1 [message #56419] |
Sun, 30 November 2003 17:06 |
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If Red Alert DOES infact take place during the 1940's-1950's, it would eliminate the previously concluded discussion of whether the M16 should be used or not, because there would be no M16. However, what would be accurately used (given most advancements had been historically made) would be an AR-10 variant of sorts, which would evolve into the M16 eventually, but it would still be an AR-10. It looks virtually the same, except for the late 1950's issue which had the charging handle "in" the ironsight... http://world.guns.ru/assault/as16-e.htm
I don't really think it needs to be debated any further... those who were part of Renegade Realm have seen the effects before... and I'd be happy with an M16 to smote thine enemies with.
"God isn't on our side either, cuz he hates idiots also."
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| Renegade Alert Weapons Update: M16A1 [message #56472] |
Mon, 01 December 2003 07:12 |
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| Dishman |
If Red Alert DOES infact take place during the 1940's-1950's, it would eliminate the previously concluded discussion of whether the M16 should be used or not, because there would be no M16. However, what would be accurately used (given most advancements had been historically made) would be an AR-10 variant of sorts, which would evolve into the M16 eventually, but it would still be an AR-10. It looks virtually the same, except for the late 1950's issue which had the charging handle "in" the ironsight... http://world.guns.ru/assault/as16-e.htm
I don't really think it needs to be debated any further... those who were part of Renegade Realm have seen the effects before... and I'd be happy with an M16 to smote thine enemies with.
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The year the M16 was introduced has nothing to do with when Red Alert could have taken place. It has already been said many times before, Red Alert takes place in an alternate time. There is no debate to it... Red Alert takes place around the 40s - 50s.
If the year(s) Red Alert take place depends on when the technology included in the game were introduced than Red Alert couldn't have happened before the late 1980s... (The Apache Longbow wasn't introduced until around 1986)
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