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| RenGuard Logical Diagram [message #55467] |
Wed, 19 November 2003 20:35   |
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IRON FART
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Registered: September 2003
Location: LOS ANGELES
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I didn't know there were any master servers.
Is that needed?
What if you decide not to cheat ever again, but you are still banned from every server using RenGuard?
Should be more like:
SSC --join request--> Server --checking client--> SSC-> Server (A-OK message)
And it should check that every time because if you are permanently banned from every server at once for cheating once, it''ll kill the game.
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| RenGuard Logical Diagram [message #55470] |
Wed, 19 November 2003 21:01 |
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exnyte
Messages: 746
Registered: February 2003
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And it should check that every time because if you are permanently banned from every server at once for cheating once, it''ll kill the game.
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No it wouldn't. For one, not everyone cheats, so the game will still go one. For two, you shouldn't be cheating in the first place. If you're cheating, you deserve not to be able to play on ANY server. Period.
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| RenGuard Logical Diagram [message #55477] |
Wed, 19 November 2003 22:43 |
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gibberish
Messages: 366
Registered: May 2003
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First time banning might be advantageous from the stand point that if someone invents a new cheat people may not want to try it in case RenGuard catches it ......
Because they will be banned if it does. :sneaky:
However on the flip side it could create a lot of panic if RenGuard accidently incorrectly identifies a new map/mod as a cheat and bans a bunch of people. :twisted:
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| RenGuard Logical Diagram [message #55480] |
Wed, 19 November 2003 23:34 |
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exnyte
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However on the flip side it could create a lot of panic if RenGuard accidently incorrectly identifies a new map/mod as a cheat and bans a bunch of people. :twisted:
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In the event that this happens, RenGuard is fixed, those who are wrongly banned are unbanned and all is well. There should never be a reason for someone to even "test" a cheat in a public server, so a Zero-Tolerance attitude should be enforced. There is no reason to give cheaters multiple chances.
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| RenGuard Logical Diagram [message #55585] |
Fri, 21 November 2003 03:52 |
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gibberish
Messages: 366
Registered: May 2003
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Its actually better to kick them first.
Because you can page them once they get back to the lobby.
This has the advantage that any text will not scroll off the screen since it will be in one of the popup windows.
Hence if its a noob who needs to download Renguard its easier for them to write down the download intructions.
Gib.
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| RenGuard Logical Diagram [message #55609] |
Fri, 21 November 2003 09:38 |
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Crimson
Messages: 7428
Registered: February 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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That's because most programs are coded to page them immediately after the kick. They need to actually page them about 2-3 seconds later.
I'm the bawss.
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| RenGuard Logical Diagram [message #55666] |
Fri, 21 November 2003 17:56 |
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gibberish
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This is fine for small pieces of infomation such as:
"You are about to be kicked because you are cheating"
However if you want to give more complex information or a URL to download something, the player will need more time to grab a pen and paper to write it down (Before it scrolls off the screen).
I will have a play tonight, to see if I can be paged after I am kicked.
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| RenGuard Logical Diagram [message #55680] |
Fri, 21 November 2003 21:08 |
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gibberish
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You appear to be correct (at least in WOL mode).
If someone is kicked from a game. There appears to be a bug in Renegade that they no longer receive pages in the Lobby. The only way I could find to re-enable the pages was to log out of WOL and back in again.
NOTE: If the messages are send immediately after the kick and before the player clicks on the "You were kicked" message the messages appear (faintly) on the top left of the screen.
Gib
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| RenGuard Logical Diagram [message #55695] |
Sat, 22 November 2003 01:43 |
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IRON FART
Messages: 1989
Registered: September 2003
Location: LOS ANGELES
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That would be a good idea.
Having a message box:
"You were kicked from XXXXXXXXXXXXX Server for attempting to cheat"
lol that reminds me........
Renguard will kick people before they can actually cheat, right?
Isn't that like Minority Report??
LOL
Stop a crime, before it happens......rofl
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| RenGuard Logical Diagram [message #55904] |
Tue, 25 November 2003 17:01 |
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rm5248
Messages: 1156
Registered: November 2003
Location: USA
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you should probably make it so that it doesn't work on unladderd games. because most cheats, i belive, only work in unladderd games. that would be very stupid if you kicked somebody from an unladderd game if the cheat does not give them any help on ladder points. and wasnt the point of unladderd games to make it so that you can cheat? or just for practice?
and will this just be for the servers that download renguard, or will it be for all servers wether they want it or not?
w00t?
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| RenGuard Logical Diagram [message #56035] |
Thu, 27 November 2003 03:31 |
flyingfox
Messages: 1612
Registered: February 2003
Location: scotland, uk
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The CA and MS interact at intervals..
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First of all can you tell me the space of time between these intervals? Because this could mean someone could slip the cheats in after they log into the server, for a few minutes just to big-head on someone they don't like & kill them, then take the cheats back out if they have enough time. Then again because of this you may not want to tell people the space between the intervals.
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| RenGuard Logical Diagram [message #56094] |
Thu, 27 November 2003 13:48 |
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Crimson
Messages: 7428
Registered: February 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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You can't take the cheats on and off at will. You have to restart the game for them to take effect at all and if you try, usually Renegade will crash on the next map. And if you do leave and try to come back, you will be scanned again.
I'm the bawss.
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