| Open discussion on cancer. [message #54980] |
Fri, 14 November 2003 06:33  |
KIRBY098
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Cancer was never that big of a thing when I was a child. It was "rare" and you weren't likely to have more than one family member affected by it.
Now I have personally noticed that roughly 3 out of 5 people I know, have battled it in the past, are battling it, or are dying from it.
Theories on why it has become so prevalent are welcome, as are personal stories. But let's not turn this into a BOO HOO session.
What are your theories on why this is killing our society so rapidly?
Intelligent replies only.
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| Open discussion on cancer. [message #54985] |
Fri, 14 November 2003 08:06  |
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Mixture of bad luck and bad health usually.
People who excercise and eat well, dont smoke etc.. that get cancer, its usually down to bad luck, family heratege (sp?)
Bad health, well you dont need a brain for that,
Cancer's days are numbered though, new treatments and preventions being developed all the time.
Lets hope we can be rid of it soon..
In the end it doesn't matter if you are who you say you are. You will still mean nothing to me.
When i have kids, everytime i drive past a fast food restaurant, im gonna punch my kid in the face, then they'll never wanna come..
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| Open discussion on cancer. [message #54988] |
Fri, 14 November 2003 08:28 |
KIRBY098
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Granted Gentlemen,
But why has it become so much more widespread than it ever was before? Is there a catalyst that is causing this to spread exponentially?
I suspect there may be something in our modern lives that is triggering corrupt DNA sequences, and allowing them to run unchecked.
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| Open discussion on cancer. [message #54994] |
Fri, 14 November 2003 10:43 |
KIRBY098
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Smoking, Drinking, Drugs, anything like this could be a main problem.
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Those have been around longer than prostitution. I doubt they are primary causes for the uprating in the amount of cases we are seeing.
There is something wrong, but everyone I talk to doesn't want to even think about it. It's clearly an epidemic, as it's taking our children now as well. It is no longer the old people's problem, and curse of old age.
There are now 2, 3, and 4 year olds with it.
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| Open discussion on cancer. [message #54999] |
Fri, 14 November 2003 11:47 |
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K9Trooper
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People speak about cancer more nowadays because of the progress in the treatments. That is why you "think" it is an epidemic. Kirby, remember in our days people didn't talk about their medical history as openly as they do now. Back in our days cancer = almost certian death. People didn't like to talk about that or even expose their kids to the topic of life and death that early.
5 years a go I had a good friend on the FD that went for his regular check up. He commented to the doctor that sometimes he would get short of breath. The doc did some tests and had an x-ray done. They found a small spot on his lungs. It was cancer. They started radiation treatments and it got worse. I can still remember him visiting the fire house the week before he died. He sat in the kitchen and started to cry. He knew it was over. He told us how he blamed the treatments for making it get worse. I agree. Ted never smoked and he rarely drank. The closest thing we could come up with is the chemicals we encounter at every fire. 3 months from start to finish.
R.I.P. TreyD. You will be missed, but not forgotten.
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| Open discussion on cancer. [message #55018] |
Fri, 14 November 2003 13:36 |
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boma57
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Yeah, I'm not sure if it's such an epidemic more than it was before. I mean, overall our life expectancies are getting longer. Isn't it possible that back in the "old days", the doctors didn't know what cancer was and just as many people died from it?
There are many theories about what long ago illnesses actually were. I read an awesome book by Robin Cook referring back to the Salem witch trials. This doctor found some seeds of some sort that grew naturally in that area and apparently has a hallucinagenic effect. Apparently in this area, they suspected it got into the bread.
The doctor also discovers that after he takes a small sample of the seed, once the hallucinations have passed, that his mind is more clear than ever before... he can remember things he'd thought he'd forgotten. So he gets funding to try and remove the hallicination and isolate the memory enhancement part of the cell structure. It's a fascinating read. It's called Acceptable Risk. 
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I've also heard that of the Salem Witch trials. The drug was actually a fungus that got onto the grain, and therefore into the bread. They think it could have caused the initial hallucinations and convulsions, but said that had they ingested the drug for as long as the trials went on (about a year) further problems would have arisen such as Gangrene. Thus, the leading theory now is that the drug started it, and the power of suggestion carried it. 
Anyway, as far as cancer, I believe what Crimson and some other people have already said. Back in "the day", let's say 10 people died of cancer as an example. You might hear about the one or two worst cases. Now, if 10 people die of cancer, you'll most likely hear about all of them, or at least a high percentage.
For example, I only have one relative who has died of cancer (thankfully only one). I visit these boards though, and so I also hear about these tragic cases which seem more personal because I know or have at least associated with some of those people affected by it.
If you take the exact same situation and go back 20 years before the internet, I would still only know one. I think it's just perception that makes it appear to be spreading, but I don't believe it to actually be doing as much spreading as it can be made out to be.
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| Open discussion on cancer. [message #55019] |
Fri, 14 November 2003 13:37 |
Homey
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About out of my 20 neighbours excluding people under 18 75% have had/have cancer. On my street many people use pesticides on their lawn and things like that. Cancer is becoming more common but at least there is lots of medical advances recently.
Homey
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| Open discussion on cancer. [message #55025] |
Fri, 14 November 2003 15:39 |
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Walrus
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Ok, this one is for the blokes: Now Lets try and talk about types of cancer that are currently ravaging the population - testicular cancer - cancer of the prostate. Both are huge killers and are not talked about by men on a whole, this shouldn’t be.
Testicular Cancer
Lets start off with testicular cancer - don't bother shrinking away because this can save your life. Yes it's embarrassing but it's still something you have to know about.
- women have to check their breasts every 4 weeks or so to check for lumps that may lead to the discovery of a growth - maybe its nothing, maybe its not... Regular scans (a special type of x-ray) are also recommended for those over the age of 35 (in the uk)
The same goes for men’s testicals - although regular checks should be done from the age of 15 and every 2 to 4 weeks. Basically - roll your nuts and see if there are any unusual lumps or painful areas... If in doubt - go see your local doctor or GP. More info here.
http://www.umm.edu/men/testicu.htm
Prostate cancer.
The next type effects men from the age of 20 but only becomes a high risk over the age of 35 - now this one is a killer that gets most of us and we don’t even know it. Prostate Cancer usually has no symptoms - sometimes there are but these are attributed to infections that are common to men of all ages.
- most Prostate cancer cases are found by accident by routine X-rays- and by then its usually too late because the Cancer has spread. There is however a test. DRE or the Digital Rectal Exam is the standard test - this should be part of your annual checkup past the age of 35. More info here.
http://www.cancer.med.umich.edu/prostcan/prostcan.html
One Last Time
"England expects that every man will do his duty"
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| Open discussion on cancer. [message #55028] |
Fri, 14 November 2003 16:19 |
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bigejoe14
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Regular scans (a special type of x-ray)
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Those scans for breast cancer are called Mamograms (SP?).
WHATEVER, FAGGOT
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| Open discussion on cancer. [message #55043] |
Fri, 14 November 2003 17:51 |
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exnyte
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All i know is that ive lost too many freinds and famiely to that shit and i hate it. Ill prob end up with cancer *im 15* becasue it runs in family but then again the ones that have died smoked, and were overweight and didnt eat right. I am in very good shape *90 pounds* eat pretty good for a 15 year old and only thing i smoke is a joint ever once in a while not cigeretts so i hope i dont end up like they did.
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I don't call 90 pounds healthy.
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Would be if he's 4'5"...
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| Open discussion on cancer. [message #55073] |
Fri, 14 November 2003 21:57 |
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C4miner
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ROLF!!!!!! im 90 pounds and just at 5"1 LOL im not freaky skinny lol not like one of htem kids in africa or shit. i just dont gain wait lol not my fault im active.
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Oh, yeah, you must be right, it's not your fault that you're active. :rolleyes:
Wait, does that make any sense in any way? Who's forcing you to be active? I know, it must be my fault that you're active. :rolleyes:
Oh, and your weight of 90 pounds is more hereditary than anything else, like exercise. I know people who exercise all the time, eat right, and are still legally overweight. Oh, and that weight isn't being caused by muscle weight, either. It's caused by fat. The people aren't fitness freaks, but they do it to keep weight in check. If it weren't for their exercise they'd weight a lot more than they do now
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