| Well... [message #52334] |
Wed, 22 October 2003 19:45  |
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Slicer_238
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Registered: May 2003
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I guess I can't even do good without being kicked. I was just kicked out of dantefds for assumed cheating. I love this bullshit, I kill base level characters with an orca and I get kicked. I never cheated in my life and just because I used two years of my life to get a good aim in the game I'm considered a "cheat" now. I love the message it gave me too. "Game bot Kiced Reason: I think your cheating, but I can't prove it". Such asinine bullshit. That just made me lose hope in Renegade's future.
May Trey rest in forever bliss and happiness.
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| Well... [message #52337] |
Wed, 22 October 2003 19:50  |
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bigejoe14
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We have to know who kicked you otherwise this does no good.
WHATEVER, FAGGOT
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| Well... [message #52339] |
Wed, 22 October 2003 20:04 |
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Slicer_238
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I'm not pissed about being kicked. Its the reason I was kicked that pissed me off. I never cheat, I don't condone cheating, and I'm the first person yelling at the blatant cheater. The only people that were mods in the server that I know of was kingnooby and I think melwool. He said he thinks someone was cheating, but I don't want to point fingers. But it is pure bullshit.
May Trey rest in forever bliss and happiness.
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| Well... [message #52342] |
Wed, 22 October 2003 20:08 |
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Slicer_238
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Yes, it seems even the good servers are becoming asinine in their attempts to stop cheating. That is really lame though, but my point still stands as a kick for no reason but assumption was made.
May Trey rest in forever bliss and happiness.
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| Well... [message #52417] |
Thu, 23 October 2003 04:18 |
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England
Messages: 618
Registered: February 2003
Location: High Wycombe, England
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PM me your WOL nick, ill look into it.
In the end it doesn't matter if you are who you say you are. You will still mean nothing to me.
When i have kids, everytime i drive past a fast food restaurant, im gonna punch my kid in the face, then they'll never wanna come..
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| Re: Well... [message #52432] |
Thu, 23 October 2003 08:22 |
msgtpain
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Registered: March 2003
Location: Montana
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| Slicer_238 |
I guess I can't even do good without being kicked. I was just kicked out of dantefds for assumed cheating. I love this bullshit, I kill base level characters with an orca and I get kicked. I never cheated in my life and just because I used two years of my life to get a good aim in the game I'm considered a "cheat" now. I love the message it gave me too. "Game bot Kiced Reason: I think your cheating, but I can't prove it". Such asinine bullshit. That just made me lose hope in Renegade's future.
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According to the database, you've played 54 games on "The Pits" since January 1, 2003..
If we don't "know you," we don't "trust you." Sorry.. that's just the way things go during times like these..
You may think that we have an obligation to just allow to come in the server and assume they're good if they have a 17/1 k/d ratio, but unfortunately, we don't give people the benefit of the doubt, if they're not part of the community.
If you don't like it, make sure and thank Ty for making it all possible.
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| Well... [message #52468] |
Thu, 23 October 2003 12:42 |
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Slicer_238
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No, what I don't like is the fact that with an orca and two years experience, plus an orca kills base level people almost intsantly. So explain to me how I would managed to get a death if I always went back for repairs in my orca almost everytime my armor was almost depleted. Ask Jsome of the people in the server on GDI, they repaired me more then a couple times. So unless people can kill me inside my orca explain how I would die.
Even if Ty is the reason, assumptions are no way to judge. Secondly people should look at the facts before kicking. Facts: I was in a vechicle and all Nod had was either base level infantry or tanks. So it would be rather hard for them to kill me because of those facts.
Also thank you England for clearing that up.
May Trey rest in forever bliss and happiness.
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| Well... [message #52546] |
Fri, 24 October 2003 09:51 |
msgtpain
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| Slicer_238 |
No, what I don't like is the fact that with an orca and two years experience, plus an orca kills base level people almost intsantly.
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"YOU" know you have 2 years experience.. but like I said, you've played 54 games on the server.. so the moderators there, as well as most other players don't know you from dirt.. You're just the new guy as far as they're concerned.
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| Re: cheaters [message #52578] |
Fri, 24 October 2003 12:51 |
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Slicer_238
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i love how you all pretend like this game is your life.most of the host seem to me like they think they got some god like power!! the point of someone being good at the game and others being crappy(wont mention names). then being kicked for being the shizzznet. well thats just shizznet.I play renegade with slicer every day and not once has he cheated. Infact he was the one to come set my renegade up and make sure i couldnt cheat.
let me be the first to tell you that i suck at the game and would cheat the
first chance i got , but yet cheating isnt nice so i dont do it. thats why my k/d is 169/562 . slice like myself just wants to kill things. So every chance i get now will be used on betraying my own team by stealing peoples veichles and giving them to the other teams.... ted bundy
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......This is what you wanted me too see!? OMG, I'm smacking you at your Halloween party tommorow. Anyways, this is my sister's BF so if you guys want to do an IP check. I don't want to be branded as a person making another account to save myself from anything.
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"YOU" know you have 2 years experience.. but like I said, you've played 54 games on the server.. so the moderators there, as well as most other players don't know you from dirt.. You're just the new guy as far as they're concerned.
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Alright, glad to hear your opinion. But you still didn't say anything at looking at facts before kicking someone besides the k/d ratio. I'm waiting for an explanition as why I was kicked when I was flying an ORCA and killing BASE LEVEL people. So, even if you were basing it off of k/d ratio, you mean that you don't take time to see how that person got those kills? Well my opinion is that I think that is a cheap and fairly crude form of judgement.
That is the point of my arguement. The fact it was only based off of two numbers and a slash. Knowing someone is good. But a person knowing right from wrong would understand you base it off of actions not formalities. Which I see no form of that kind of judgement besides that BS form based k/d.
May Trey rest in forever bliss and happiness.
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| Well... [message #52596] |
Fri, 24 October 2003 14:21 |
flyingfox
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Registered: February 2003
Location: scotland, uk
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I think it's more "how" you got those kills that makes people suspicious. The speed you get them at, perhaps.
I was in that game with you and after you were kicked, I argued that if you had been using big heads, it would be really hard not to get headshots on people, when your up in the air since a big head would cover the rest of their body. Although I didn't see much in the way of suspicion, I wasn't paying much attention to you. Moderators on the Pits server are fair people.
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| Re: cheaters [message #52598] |
Fri, 24 October 2003 14:32 |
msgtpain
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Location: Montana
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| Slicer_238 |
That is the point of my arguement. The fact it was only based off of two numbers and a slash. Knowing someone is good. But a person knowing right from wrong would understand you base it off of actions not formalities. Which I see no form of that kind of judgement besides that BS form based k/d.
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Your opinions and concerns are duly noted.. But I can assure you that the next time someone that none of the moderators know starts killing a shit load of people, they're going to kick them too.
It's sad, I know.. I don't like the current situation any better than you do. And I know for a fact that the moderators don't have a running tally of how many people they've kicked, slapping high-fives at the bar afterwards.. They don't want to kick people any more than you want them to kick you.
But the reality of it is, they are there to ensure that "most" people in the game are having a good time. They're not going to waste their time interviewing you and following you around to properly analyze your play style.. If they don't know you, and they even 'think' that you're cheating... they're going to kick you.
We can keep going back and forth until the end of time if you would like, but it doesn't change that simple fact.. (the one outlined in the above paragraph)..
If you despise that mentality, my only suggestion is to simply stay off the server.. Problem solved.
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| Well... [message #52611] |
Fri, 24 October 2003 15:42 |
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Slicer_238
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I think it's more "how" you got those kills that makes people suspicious. The speed you get them at, perhaps.
I was in that game with you and after you were kicked, I argued that if you had been using big heads, it would be really hard not to get headshots on people, when your up in the air since a big head would cover the rest of their body. Although I didn't see much in the way of suspicion, I wasn't paying much attention to you. Moderators on the Pits server are fair people.
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Yes, I don't doubt that they are fair people. But if you noticed as I was flying about as high as the half point of the mesa making it fairly easy to get head shots.
Msgtpain, I like your server.I think it and the FoD servers are the best servers actually. Its the lack of seeing how people get kills is the only thing that is annoying me. Maybe it was the way I was raised that people should be judged by actions seen. Regardless I will keep playing on that server. I just hope that I don't get banned once again if a similair situation like this occures.
May Trey rest in forever bliss and happiness.
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| Well... [message #52632] |
Fri, 24 October 2003 18:33 |
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Slicer_238
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Well by putting down "no comment" you still commented on how you wouldn't comment. 
May Trey rest in forever bliss and happiness.
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