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| Matrix Revolutions [message #50446] |
Sat, 04 October 2003 10:15   |
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Walrus
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Registered: February 2003
Location: Good old England
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Will it be better? The last one was a bit of a CGfoo no brainer. Not the best film i ever saw and not as good as the original.
One Last Time
"England expects that every man will do his duty"
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| Matrix Revolutions [message #50452] |
Sun, 05 October 2003 12:53 |
Homey
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Registered: February 2003
Location: Canada
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It sure looks a lot better. In a 3 part series i say the 1st movie is good, second is not as good and third tops em both.
Homey
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| Matrix Revolutions [message #50723] |
Wed, 08 October 2003 04:48 |
djlaptop
Messages: 160
Registered: February 2003
Location: Hollywood, CA, USA
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OMG you guys call yourselves Matrix fans?
Here are the facts. Don't read if you don't want spoilers.
The woman in the red dress was programmed by Mouse, who was killed in the first movie by generic law enforcement agents.
Bane is a crewmember on the ship The Icarus, captained by Ajax. Bane's mind is "overwritten" by agent Smith within the matrix and thus bleeds into his body in the real world. Bane is the only survivor of the ship after the sentinels slaughter the rest of the crew due to his sabotauge. Why they did not assasinate Bane is still unclear - Perhaps he has Neo's ability to EMP the sentinels via thought, or perhaps they recognize him as an ally. Either way, it's not very important, and may not even be addressed in the third film.
In Revolutions, Neo and Bane WILL fight it out in the real world. It's clear from the trailer that this will occur.
Gloria Foster, who played the Oracle in the first two films, died of diabetes and has been replaced by actress Mary Alice. She acknowleges her "form change" in "Enter the Matrix" and credits it to the Merovingian's promise to destroy her. In the Revolutions trailer, it seems as though the Merovingian strikes a deal with Smith to somehow destroy the Oracle, and it looks like he succeeds, as in a different trailer we see a gleely laughing Smith in the Oracle's apartment.
A few things are pretty certain based on the trailers.
1) An attempt is made on the Oracle's life.
2) The sentinel army breaches Zion.
3) Neo makes a deal with the machines to destroy Smith, as he is no longer controllable by the machine world.
And now for a couple of theories I have...
1) The "mother" of the Matrix is not the Oracle, but Persephone, the Merovingian's wife.
2) The Oracle gets turned into a Smith.
3) Neo somehow learns to extend some of his matrix-only capabilities into the real world.
4) The outcome of the series will result in a world where man and machine form a truce and continue life together.
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| Matrix Revolutions [message #50742] |
Wed, 08 October 2003 08:48 |
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Crimson
Messages: 7429
Registered: February 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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General (5 Stars)
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Here's something else to ponder. (Yes, of course I'm a Matrix fan, too)
At the very end of Reloaded, Neo stops the Sentinel from killing them by using "the force" (haha, j/k) to stop it... then he passes out. Why? Here's our theory...
During the architect's speech, we've decided that he was basically telling Neo that the "Real World" isn't the real world at all, but merely another level of the Matrix for the people who figured out the existence of the first level. The people in the "Real World" are given that illusion of choice and think they are free.
Neo disbelieves this at first (deniability is the most predictable human response), but once they are in danger, he gives it a shot, and he finds he's able to control things in the "Real World" just like in the matrix... which makes him actually "wake up" from the matrix. (or is it just the next level for those who realize zion isn't in the real world either?)
Persephone as the mother makes a lot of sense. She does sound like she could be the one to discover humans need the illusion of choice. After all, she certainly did things, bad things, knowing she could control the consequnces. She got away with getting Neo to kiss her, right in front of his woman with a gun... she killed one of her husband's goons...
When the DVD comes out, we're having a huge party at the house where we will watch it on Blazer's 57 inch TV, then we're going to see Revolutions on opening night... you know, where they show it at like 10:30pm because according to movie rules, as long as the movie ends on or after opening day, then it's OK to show it. 
I'm the bawss.
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| Matrix Revolutions [message #50744] |
Wed, 08 October 2003 09:29 |
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npsmith82
Messages: 525
Registered: February 2003
Location: England, UK
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Mouse was the guy who programmed the woman in the red dress (and later died), not Bane.
Bane was the guy opposite Neo at the end of Revolutions.
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Ah you're correct, i was only going by what i found by doing an image search on google. 
But now i realise it's not him, i remember that i already realised that "Bane" is Agent Smith, i thought you were talking about something else...
It's blatantly obvious when he enters himself into the matrix by the telephone, then proceeds to assasinate Neo thru the corridor with a knife, just before Neo, Trinity and the other guy get into a lift, but get's noticed before he could kill him. Then he's on the medical table, alongside Neo right at the end after they go back for survivors. I also agree with whoever said the Smith had made a deal with the machines, makes complete sense as to why they didn't kill him too.
WOL: npsmith82
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| Matrix Revolutions [message #50760] |
Wed, 08 October 2003 12:10 |
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sloppyjo
Messages: 55
Registered: February 2003
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Hello HOmey Im a good player can I be in youre clan?
Lol dude you still playin ren..Im not.Hey good times.
They are Dodging Us why,We are dodging them
-LT-4 Time Winner of the westwood Cup and 3 Time Winner of the Clanwars Cup.
-LT-You Clan Just Dosent Compare So Just GO Home. I Talk The Smack. Stfu.
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