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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #488841 is a reply to message #488835] |
Tue, 29 July 2014 13:02 |
InternetThug
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Ethenal wrote on Tue, 29 July 2014 07:17 |
IvyLeague wrote on Fri, 25 July 2014 11:35 |
Aircraftkiller wrote on Thu, 24 July 2014 15:44 | That's cute coming from a guy who said Obama is a n1gger that's hell bent on destroying this nation
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proof i said that? i've seen ethenal use the n word a million times i dont see you givin him shit and im sure he's the one that made up i said that .. lol
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LOL where do I use this word that often? It gets blocked on here (mean lady), and it's not allowed on Jelly and I'm an administrator there, so... how would I be saying it? IVY LEAGUE SCHOOL RIDIN' ON MY DICK, I MUST BE RACIST CUZ IM FROM THE SOUTH
speaking of racists what's up iran
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I've heard you talking on teamspeak in your fake southern drawl. No lying again please.
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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #488847 is a reply to message #488824] |
Tue, 29 July 2014 15:12 |
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Jerad2142
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iRANian wrote on Mon, 28 July 2014 16:07 | That has to be one of the most retarded things I've ever read. Especially considering whites started leaving Detroit in the 1970's after black terror and riots. And of course after black democrats got elected.
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This post reminds me of one of those kids that believe the color of your skin determines what type of person they are. Or at the very least one of those people that bitch about killing black people in Resident Evil 5... which is in AFRICA. Guess what, if a city is mostly black people most of the crime will be committed by black people.
In addition you're not factoring in that racist mean ladys were still treating black people negatively, which creates a very different environment for a group of people just due to their skin color. In the end there are far too many factors for you to account for (or as it seems are even capable of comprehending) that can lead to the behavior of a group of people.
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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #488852 is a reply to message #488841] |
Tue, 29 July 2014 17:13 |
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Ethenal
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IvyLeague wrote on Tue, 29 July 2014 15:02 |
Ethenal wrote on Tue, 29 July 2014 07:17 |
IvyLeague wrote on Fri, 25 July 2014 11:35 |
Aircraftkiller wrote on Thu, 24 July 2014 15:44 | That's cute coming from a guy who said Obama is a n1gger that's hell bent on destroying this nation
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proof i said that? i've seen ethenal use the n word a million times i dont see you givin him shit and im sure he's the one that made up i said that .. lol
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LOL where do I use this word that often? It gets blocked on here (mean lady), and it's not allowed on Jelly and I'm an administrator there, so... how would I be saying it? IVY LEAGUE SCHOOL RIDIN' ON MY DICK, I MUST BE RACIST CUZ IM FROM THE SOUTH
speaking of racists what's up iran
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I've heard you talking on teamspeak in your fake southern drawl. No lying again please.
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oh lol you got me there, but I say it because it's funny rather than out of genuine hate (also it's private communication that isn't logged, and therefore can't "offend" anyone that wasn't present and listening) ... if you're looking for racism look no further than iran
also notice in your quote you said "i've seen ethenal use the n word a million times" and yet, you claim it was on Teamspeak - synesthesia maybe?
I've never really thought I had a drawl, but if I do, how could it possibly be fake? I've lived within 10 miles of the same location in Alabama for 95% of my life, so I'd imagine I'm pretty "Southern"
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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #488855 is a reply to message #488852] |
Tue, 29 July 2014 19:25 |
InternetThug
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Ethenal wrote on Tue, 29 July 2014 17:13 |
IvyLeague wrote on Tue, 29 July 2014 15:02 |
Ethenal wrote on Tue, 29 July 2014 07:17 |
IvyLeague wrote on Fri, 25 July 2014 11:35 |
Aircraftkiller wrote on Thu, 24 July 2014 15:44 | That's cute coming from a guy who said Obama is a n1gger that's hell bent on destroying this nation
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proof i said that? i've seen ethenal use the n word a million times i dont see you givin him shit and im sure he's the one that made up i said that .. lol
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LOL where do I use this word that often? It gets blocked on here (mean lady), and it's not allowed on Jelly and I'm an administrator there, so... how would I be saying it? IVY LEAGUE SCHOOL RIDIN' ON MY DICK, I MUST BE RACIST CUZ IM FROM THE SOUTH
speaking of racists what's up iran
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I've heard you talking on teamspeak in your fake southern drawl. No lying again please.
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oh lol you got me there, but I say it because it's funny rather than out of genuine hate (also it's private communication that isn't logged, and therefore can't "offend" anyone that wasn't present and listening) ... if you're looking for racism look no further than iran
also notice in your quote you said "i've seen ethenal use the n word a million times" and yet, you claim it was on Teamspeak - synesthesia maybe?
I've never really thought I had a drawl, but if I do, how could it possibly be fake? I've lived within 10 miles of the same location in Alabama for 95% of my life, so I'd imagine I'm pretty "Southern"
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You always do that goofy over-exaggerated voice is all I meant. When you're in on the jokes about Alabama.
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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #488861 is a reply to message #488847] |
Wed, 30 July 2014 00:59 |
iRANian
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Jerad Gray wrote on Tue, 29 July 2014 15:12 |
iRANian wrote on Mon, 28 July 2014 16:07 | That has to be one of the most retarded things I've ever read. Especially considering whites started leaving Detroit in the 1970's after black terror and riots. And of course after black democrats got elected.
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This post reminds me of one of those kids that believe the color of your skin determines what type of person they are. Or at the very least one of those people that bitch about killing black people in Resident Evil 5... which is in AFRICA. Guess what, if a city is mostly black people most of the crime will be committed by black people.
In addition you're not factoring in that racist mean ladys were still treating black people negatively, which creates a very different environment for a group of people just due to their skin color. In the end there are far too many factors for you to account for (or as it seems are even capable of comprehending) that can lead to the behavior of a group of people.
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It's not color of skin, it's race. Only 11%-16% of US blacks have an IQ of 100. In South Africa the average IQ of an African university student is 85.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence#United_States_test_scores
http://topconservativenews.com/2012/04/university-study-on-iqs-in-sub-saharan-af rica/
http://www.vdare.com/articles/solving-the-african-iq-conundrum-winning-personali ty-masks-low-scores
http://www.vdare.com/articles/iq-why-africa-is-africa-and-haiti-haiti
http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/ravensi.pdf
IQ is mostly inherited, around 40-80% according to the mainstream science of the mid-90s (current research suggests 60-80% habitability:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainstream_Science_on_Intelligence
>It was drafted by professor of psychology Linda Gottfredson and signed by Gottfredson and 51 other university professors specializing in intelligence and related fields, including around one third of the editorial board of the journal Intelligence,[1]
Conclusions:
>"Heritability estimates range from 0.4 to 0.8 ... indicating genetics plays a bigger role than environment in creating IQ differences"
>"IQ is strongly related, probably more so than any other single measurable human trait, to many important educational, occupational, economic, and social outcomes ... Whatever IQ tests measure, it is of great practical and social importance"
>"The bell curve for whites is centered roughly around IQ 100; the bell curve for American blacks roughly around 85; and those for different subgroups of Hispanics roughly midway between those for whites and blacks. The evidence is less definitive for exactly where above IQ 100 the bell curves for Jews and Asians are centered"
Race and crime:
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime#United_States
In London and Toronto black crime is even higher than in the US.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_Kingdom#Race_and_crime _in_London
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/raceandcrime/black-arrest-rates-highest.html
http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/raceandcrime/2010/02/06/race_matters_blacks_do cumented_by_police_at_high_rate.html
Extremely rich black high school students whose families make more than $200,000 a year score at the same level of extremely poor white students whose families make $20,000 a year: http://isteve.blogspot.nl/2014/03/2008-sat-scores-by-race-by-income.html
1995 SAT scores: http://i.imgur.com/lUNXKOZ.jpg
Relationship of race & socioeconomic status to undergraduate GPA & LSAT score: http://i.imgur.com/bUzN9vV.jpg
The Widening Racial Scoring Gap on the SAT College Admissions Test: http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html :
>But there is a major flaw in the thesis that income differences explain the racial gap. Consider these three observable facts from The College Board's 2005 data on the SAT:
>• Whites from families with incomes of less than $10,000 had a mean SAT score of 993. This is 129 points higher than the national mean for all blacks.
>• Whites from families with incomes below $10,000 had a mean SAT test score that was 61 points higher than blacks whose families had incomes of between $80,000 and $100,000.
>• Blacks from families with incomes of more than $100,000 had a mean SAT score that was 85 points below the mean score for whites from all income levels, 139 points below the mean score of whites from families at the same income level, and 10 points below the average score of white students from families whose income was less than $10,000.
In NYC 96% of homicides are committed by blacks and Hispanics while they make up a 50% of its population. 70% of those homicides are committed by blacks: http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/crime_and_enfor cement_activity_jan_to_jun_2012.pdf
Even though Asians are the poorest group in NY, schools and universities there are implementing measures to racially discriminate against them because there are too many of them in schools and it breaks the narrative that poverty is keeping Hispanics and blacks down in the US: http://nypost.com/2014/07/19/why-nycs-push-to-change-school-admissions-will-puni sh-poor-asians/
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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #488903 is a reply to message #488751] |
Thu, 31 July 2014 01:44 |
iRANian
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Most of the statistics are nation-wide, the studies with a smaller sample size re-affirm earlier research by other scientists (e.g. the South African black student studies).
In terms of environment, I can't find much info on Africans in Europe but they're a underclass there and a lot of Africans in Europe are refugees who thus have a lower IQ. In the US most of African immigrants have a higher IQ because of the the tighter immigration laws.
US black and Hispanic PISA scores for math are laughably bad too (scroll down a bit for the table):
http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-why-do-americans-stink-at-math/
Problem with the 'Asian American' data is that Pakistanis, Indians and other non-East Asians are also under that category, east-Asians score more like the east-Asian countries at the top of the list, while at least Pakistani-Americans score worse than the Asian-American average.
One other issue is that having so many black and Hispanic students creates more pressure to lower the educational standard of the country, which affects performance for whites and Asians too. This is more clear when the Swedish PISA data is analysed: http://www.vdare.com/posts/why-do-swedes-stink-at-math
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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #488959 is a reply to message #488772] |
Thu, 07 August 2014 07:57 |
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Thu, 24 July 2014 15:44 | That's cute coming from a guy who said Obama is a n1gger that's hell bent on destroying this nation
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yeah how stupid to suggest such a thing, he even won a nobel peace prize!
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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #488960 is a reply to message #488751] |
Thu, 07 August 2014 08:02 |
Hitman
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You're not allowed to defend yourself c'mon now guys the USA is a totalitarian state now, dont you get it?
You can only have a gun if you're part of the government, which is basically just a business with a monopoly on violence and theft, and since that is the case they will just take from you what they want, so they will never have an incentive to provide the ... 'customer' with any decent services, if any at all nowadays.
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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #488969 is a reply to message #488968] |
Sat, 09 August 2014 08:58 |
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-TLS-DJ-EYE-K
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Ethenal wrote on Fri, 08 August 2014 15:18 |
-TLS-DJ-EYE-K wrote on Thu, 07 August 2014 16:42 | Guns alone dont kill People. People with Guns kill People.
So hey, lets give every 1 in USA the permission to get a Gun, sounds like a fucking Plan...
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we already have that you silly bastard, they're trying to remove it, not give it to us!
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No Sh1t Cpt. obvious! I was well aware of the current situation, my point was its pretty much impossible to take something from millions of people away after giving it to them, than in first place not give it to every1. The NRA will do its best to keep the current situation, and by every fucking republican voter in the USA they are supported, you guys will never get to the point of your Problem, never.
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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #488973 is a reply to message #488971] |
Sat, 09 August 2014 14:56 |
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-TLS-DJ-EYE-K
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Ethenal wrote on Sat, 09 August 2014 20:44 | take the guns from the people and give them to the cops and military only
great plan
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Exactly.
Thats how it works in many other countries,and it works great. Think bout why it doesnt in America. If you dont trust your State and its institutes you should prolly settle over to another country.
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