| Re: Banned @ Jelly for nothing [message #485535 is a reply to message #485424] |
Fri, 31 January 2014 16:10   |
Pyr0man1c
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Okay Eth. I just came here to say I'm sorry for everyone involved, especially AnThRaX.
Also: http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/freeanthrax
Edit: On balance: http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/forgetanthrax
"Sapere Aude- Dare to be wise"
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and its all this "drama" that will one day end renegade...
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A question regarding RenGuard. Because it's a client/server application, what will stop the legions of people who cheat, and can crack apps, from reverse engineering it down to it's core protocol / encryption (which I'll assume it has), and duplicating it, so that they have their own client which responds to the server with all the correct info for an unpatched Renegade, but in fact is patched.
Personally, I think you should write a server-side only anti-cheat, which hooks the networking routines in Renegade. From there, using either the help of your staff who worked on creating Renegade, or from knowledge aquired while working with the network code in Renegade, create a system to monitor hit locations (did they REALLY hit, based on calculations by the anti-cheat (stopping BH)), how much damage are they claiming, vs how much damage their currently selected weapon really does, etc.
Then, add rate-of-fire checking, complete w/ lag tolerance (since lagged client will of course, upon delag, seem to fire faster, etc), and option to simply "edit" the incoming packets, to filter out the cheat (reduce damage, stop bullets, etc), or kick-ban the cheater (admins decision, based on anti cheat config).
Is it just me, or does that make more sense?
The flaw to Renegade of course, which is the core to the cheats, is that unlike most other games, Renegade lets the CLIENT decide hit locations, damage, RoF, etc. Vs others which say, "ok, the client fired their pistol along this trajectory. Did they hit something? How much damage did they do to that target if so. Report findings to clients".
My only concern, is that there will be alot more teams of people ripping apart the hard work of your small team, and undoing what you have done. Can you keep up writing fixes / completely rewriting the protocol to counter them once they have created their OWN complete anti-RenGuard client? If not, consider the server-side only method, and solve it once and for all, with the only version changes being to fix bugs, and not complete rewrites which will really piss admins off (if it takes this long for the initial, how long after the cheaters create their own client to counter it will your rewrite take to do?).
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ill say this again to all the TT people actually working on the patch. all you have to do is fix the bugs in the game. This is your role. dont get involved in a pointfix debate that you can never win (spoony has never managed to win one and hes a decent player) nor bother suggesting solutions for the faults in pointfix. just fix the damn bugs and you will all be remmebered as renegade heroes.
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| Re: Banned @ Jelly for nothing [message #485537 is a reply to message #485526] |
Fri, 31 January 2014 19:16 |
raven
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| Jesse wrote on Fri, 31 January 2014 14:05 |
Interesting how the jelly admins have made a pact not to respond to this bull shit. I'm especially disappointed in you raven, power trippers like Ethenal and liquid I'd expect this from but not you.
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I have nothing left to say; don't try to guilt me into replying. I have said my piece... and that's really that.
-Jelly Administrator
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| Re: Banned @ Jelly for nothing [message #485538 is a reply to message #485537] |
Fri, 31 January 2014 20:33 |
InternetThug
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| raven wrote on Fri, 31 January 2014 19:16 |
| Jesse wrote on Fri, 31 January 2014 14:05 |
Interesting how the jelly admins have made a pact not to respond to this bull shit. I'm especially disappointed in you raven, power trippers like Ethenal and liquid I'd expect this from but not you.
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I have nothing left to say; don't try to guilt me into replying. I have said my piece... and that's really that.
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Nothing? Nothing about the obvious bias, the fact I was in the right to be upset, the fact I was getting stalked, the fact you never warned me or said my behavior was close to getting out of hand? The fact that people say worse shit to me on a daily basis? Haha come on now.
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| Re: Banned @ Jelly for nothing [message #485564 is a reply to message #485563] |
Sat, 01 February 2014 15:29 |
InternetThug
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| Nurple wrote on Sat, 01 February 2014 14:56 |
poor jessie still sad cause he got kicked off his favorite game its ok bud im sure you will find another one
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lmao who is this retard? based on your replies i assume that's a selfie for your avatar?
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