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| New pc :x [message #484950] |
Sat, 21 December 2013 20:22  |
Kal16
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So because i'm borderline retarded i would highly appreciate someone's assistance in helping me build/buy a new pc, i want to get back into renegade and the old pc i used is kind of buggered, so i thought it would be easiest to just start afresh
i want to be able to play renegade, starcraft and maybe some of the new games that are coming out/are out such as outlast/the evil within etc etc, those newer games are probably the highest standard of games i'll use to play
so the help i need are basically a list of parts that i'll need or a direct link to a pc that i could buy, i don't want to be spending too much, but i don't want to just waste away money on the cheapest parts for a pc that won't last.
i would be eternally grateful and appreciate it hugely! i miss the server and playing renegade, so yeah
many thanks in advance, and hopefully someone can help (i'm serious i'm extremely stupid, you'll have to explain too if you have the time.)
Zero/Kal16/Firewarrior.
P.S i have posted this on two other forums, but people were either no help at all, or i didn't understand what they were saying, i'd be extremely greatful if someone could help me out with this though. Even if it was just a list of the exact parts to make a good gaming pc for not too much, i don't mind paying someone to build it after i've bought the parts.
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| Re: New pc :x [message #484957 is a reply to message #484950] |
Sun, 22 December 2013 01:47  |
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reborn
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Get an i5 4670k CPU, that's a very safe bet for cost, performance and longevity while also being able to overclock to 4.3 Ghz just on air very easily.
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| Re: New pc :x [message #484959 is a reply to message #484950] |
Sun, 22 December 2013 03:15 |
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RAM/CPU/Motherboard
Buy your RAM/CPU/Motherboard in a bundle if you are unsure about which parts work with what, that way you can ensure that you have the right CPU for your motherboards socket and the right RAM for your motherboards capabilities. e.g. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/151076680119?hlpht=true&ops=true&viphx=1& amp; amp; amp;limghlpsr=true&lpid=101&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1 &ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=101
Case
The case you get will depend on your choice of motherboard, each motherboard has a 'form factor', which is a representation of size, dimensions and screw fitting locations, most common form factor I think is 'ATX', basically you need to get a case that has the screw holes/size capacity for your chosen motherboard. Most cases are capable of accompanying for multiple form factors.
The motherboard in the ebay link above has a form factor of ATX, you can check out its specifications here https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z87K/#specifications
Id also recommend a full sized tower, since modern graphics cards are hugeeee and you probably need some extra space to fit the long ass thing in e.g. http://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/34-phantom (Motherboard Support: E-ATX, ATX, MICRO-ATX), plus the extra space is nice for cooling and assembly.
Graphics Card
Graphics card is going to be the biggest impact for game running performance, probably the most expensive part too.
You will also need to make sure your power supply has the correct connectors to power your graphics card.
http://www.ozone3d.net/public/jegx/201011/gtx480_power_connectors.jpg
Above takes 1x8Pin PCIe & 1x6Pin PCIe
Power Supply
Your power supply will depend of the accumulation of all the parts you have bought, specially concerning the graphics card as it will use the most power probably. Power supplys also follow a form factor, again if you have an ATX case, get an ATX power supply.
Buying the power supply is probably the hardest thing to do, don't simply go for high wattage(1000w) power supplies, just because they have high wattage it doesn't mean their amps per rail output is good enough.
I had a friend who bought a 700w powersupply on ebay for £20 thinking it was some sort of holy find, the result was it had a single rail 16Amp output, his graphics card needed at least 30Amps to run, wouldnt power on. Amps are kinda neglected and a few people make this mistake, each rail will have its own ampage(amps x number of rails = totalAmps) aka (30 x 2 = 60).
Something with about 550-700wats, 25-30amps 2 rails is probably a safe bet.
Storage
Storage will basically depend on your usage and amount of data, if you want speed, get an Solid State if you want high capacity get normal, if you want speed and storage, get both, run your operating system and most commonly used applications on your solid state and then movies, pictures, music ect on the bigger hard drive, look at some "SSD vs HDD" videos on youtube to see the difference. As far as compatibility with parts is concerned, a motherboard will determine what connector type and speed you can get, most commonly new motherboards and the one posted in the bundle above use "SATA 3", also known as Sata 6Gb/s, SATA 2 is 3Gb/s.
Example setup -
Case £100
http://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/34-phantom
Motherboard £150- 200
http://www.asus.com/ROG_ROG/CROSSHAIR_V_FORMULAZ/
Probably a bit OP, but this motherboard is retard friendly for overclocking
CPU £100
http://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-FX8320-Edition-4-0GHz-Socket/dp/B009O7YU56/ref=sr_1_ 2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1387705447&sr=1-2&keywords=fx+8350
Motherboard and CPU are both AMD not Intel, AMD is generally quite a fair bit cheaper than Intel, and if you want to save money to invest in a better graphics card id recommend doing so.
Memory £70
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/RAM/DDR3/Dual+Channel+1600MHz/Corsair+ Vengeance+8GB+%282x4GB%29+DDR3+1600Mhz+CL9+1.5V+Non-ECC+Unbuffered+%5BCMZ8GX3M2A 1600C9%5D+?productId=45493
This memory can run up to 1600Mhz, however the motherboard listed is capable of 2400Mhz, although that's a bit overkill, going to 2400Mhz makes the RAM cost about £150, bit unnecessary, 8GB is probably fine too, unless you like having 3 million applications open then go for 16GB, meaning double the cost
Power Supply £90
http://www.corsair.com/en/power-supply-units/tx-series-power-supply-units/tx-ser ies-tx850-80-plus-bronze-certified-850-watt-high-performance-power-supply.html
Single rail, however 70Amps on that rail, 850w - more than enough
Graphics Card (High Spec)£340
http://eu.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=04G-P4-3778-KR&family=GeForce%20 700%20Series%20Family&uc=EUR
OP, playing everything in super high bbq settings
Graphics Card Alternative (Mid Spec) £200
http://www.amazon.co.uk/EVGA-GeForce-Superclocked-Graphics-Mini-HDMI/dp/B0056LOT LY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1387706493&sr=8-1&keywords=EVGA+570+SC
Still really good, play most games in super higher bbq settings, if not maybe high-ultra
In all that costs about £800-£600, that isn't including postage and packaging, hard drives, CD drives, keyboards & mouse and other peripherals, display, speakers.
Its kinda hard your limit yourself once you get going, it ends up being "oo £20 more and I can get a better CPU", and it all adds up -_-
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| Re: New pc :x [message #484960 is a reply to message #484950] |
Sun, 22 December 2013 03:20 |
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http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-366-OE&groupid=43&am p;am p;catid=2475
The 4670k is an i5 that is very easily over-clocked to speeds exceeding the i7 range. The mobo supports that type of OC'ing too.
Configure the system to have a GTX 660 graphics card, which is a very sweet spot between price and performance before it starts getting crazy for price over performance. That particular card is also very over-clockable.
Change the HD options to a 250gb SSD and then add a 1TB Sata Drive.
You might want to consider changing the case, but if you don't you should come out to £856.88. You might be able to get it a bit cheaper elsewhere, but OC tend to be reliable in my personal experience, and the warranty is pretty valuable.
If you spend 5 minutes over-clocking it, you'll have a better system in many regards (especially the extra SSD capacity) for a couple of hundred quid less.
It wont have 16GB RAM, but I'm not sure many people would use that much. Games certainly don't.
You could easily shave some cash off the price by keeping a 1TB SATA drive and forgetting about the SSD drive, but SSD is pretty cool and within your budget.
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| Re: New pc :x [message #484961 is a reply to message #484950] |
Sun, 22 December 2013 03:29 |
BAGUETTE
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Your link doesn't work
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Ramb8(to RamBonerUpAss) fuk u big ashole u a big jakass i stick my ramboner up u as
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| Re: New pc :x [message #484965 is a reply to message #484950] |
Sun, 22 December 2013 08:52 |
BAGUETTE
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because the post was edited you bag
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Ramb8(to RamBonerUpAss) fuk u big ashole u a big jakass i stick my ramboner up u as
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| Re: New pc :x [message #484973 is a reply to message #484972] |
Tue, 24 December 2013 04:16 |
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| VuLTiMa wrote on Tue, 24 December 2013 02:51 |
Ok the link worked but it didnt go where intended, bag
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Thanks, I fixed it to link to the PC, instead of the site's home page.
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| Re: New pc :x [message #484974 is a reply to message #484950] |
Tue, 24 December 2013 04:46 |
BAGUETTE
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See told you trist!
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Ramb8(to RamBonerUpAss) fuk u big ashole u a big jakass i stick my ramboner up u as
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Crush gives away med tanks like he gives away handjobs, everyday and as much as possible
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| Re: New pc :x [message #484981 is a reply to message #484974] |
Tue, 24 December 2013 09:09 |
ehhh
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should've said that in the first place than, faggot mean lady <3
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