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Re: RenegadeX [message #484859 is a reply to message #484858] Wed, 11 December 2013 05:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ehhh wrote on Wed, 11 December 2013 13:04

nothing to do with that, crush crew is basically pubbers anyway.

competitive smaller games can test the balance better than any other normal public server, where majority of the players aren't playing serous.

I agree with you that smaller games do indeed allow for better testing the balance than large games, but the size of the game doesn't have anything to do with CW players or not.

In any case, it doesn't matter if CW players like it, in the sense that the general public should like the game primarily for it to be a success. I doubt any game can become and remain popular by just clan players. They might play an important role in keeping it alive and improving the game, but they still need pubbers.


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Re: RenegadeX [message #484861 is a reply to message #484856] Wed, 11 December 2013 12:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Renx wrote on Wed, 11 December 2013 00:30

Adding sprint/stamina and random spread on the hitscan weapons sounds like the balance the will be completely changed. Would love to play Renegade against but not if it's full of battlefield/cod garbage

lol if that's true, particularly the random spread, since if you're making a Renegade clone it would probably be quite logical to emulate the fact that no bullet ever deviates from its trajectory, ever? Changing that = not Renegade (though arty shells do deviate some)


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Re: RenegadeX [message #484862 is a reply to message #484861] Wed, 11 December 2013 13:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yeah supposed to be some recoil or some shit on rifles too, be interesting if pistols are strong as fuck too
Re: RenegadeX [message #484865 is a reply to message #484592] Wed, 11 December 2013 14:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you don't think bullets have random spread in stock ren then you weren't paying attention. Some do, and some don't.

And EWD, I think the point was that competitive teams that play together and work together could test the balance well. I don't believe anyone besides Starbuzz(I didn't even know he ever did CWs) was trying to ignite a debate about the skills of normal pub players vs CW players. I think the point was that you'd get more of a sense of the balance if you didn't have a bunch of people going lone wolf, and instead had a team cooperating together.

Now I'm remembering when Spoony would randomly get SBH in our CWs lol.


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Re: RenegadeX [message #484866 is a reply to message #484865] Wed, 11 December 2013 14:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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is that who pinball got that from
Re: RenegadeX [message #484868 is a reply to message #484592] Thu, 12 December 2013 05:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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the thinking here, EWD, is that a balanced game will have more longevity than an unbalanced one (whether it's competitive players or casual players playing it)
the best way to get to the bottom of things is by unleashing the try-hards on it
you seem to be struggling with this concept, or just really aren't able to grasp it in the first place


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Re: RenegadeX [message #484869 is a reply to message #484865] Thu, 12 December 2013 09:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tunaman wrote on Wed, 11 December 2013 15:50

If you don't think bullets have random spread in stock ren then you weren't paying attention. Some do, and some don't.

Okay yeah the chaingun and things like that do have a spread, but how much of a spread? barely even noticeable in the slightest

what I think of when they say bullet spread is that the ramjet and sniper rifle no longer follows a perfectly straight path, which may not be true (but if they did change that, whether it's completely unrealistic that is as Renegade as Renegade gets)


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Re: RenegadeX [message #484897 is a reply to message #484838] Sat, 14 December 2013 09:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 09 December 2013 13:16

funny

Not sure what's funny?


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Re: RenegadeX [message #484924 is a reply to message #484592] Wed, 18 December 2013 14:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: RenegadeX [message #484925 is a reply to message #484868] Thu, 19 December 2013 01:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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liquidv2 wrote on Thu, 12 December 2013 07:08


you seem to be struggling with this concept, or just really aren't able to grasp it in the first place



Or just really offended for no reason based on Starbuzz trying to start a fire lol.


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Re: RenegadeX [message #484933 is a reply to message #484592] Thu, 19 December 2013 17:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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that might be it
i just think Starbuzz has a serious point that no one important with them is taking seriously
but, ultimately, time will tell Surprised


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Re: RenegadeX [message #484936 is a reply to message #484933] Fri, 20 December 2013 09:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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clanwar trash can wait until it's released publicly, I doubt anyone *that plays it* wants the "tryhards" insulting all the beta testers/developers.

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Re: RenegadeX [message #484938 is a reply to message #484936] Fri, 20 December 2013 11:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sean wrote on Fri, 20 December 2013 11:15

clanwar trash can wait until it's released publicly, I doubt anyone *that plays it* wants the "tryhards" insulting all the beta testers/developers.

You're the only one here insulting anyone... and they way you judge a group of people based on a few - it seems like you are the trash to me.


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Re: RenegadeX [message #484939 is a reply to message #484938] Fri, 20 December 2013 12:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GoTWhisKéY wrote on Fri, 20 December 2013 13:43

Sean wrote on Fri, 20 December 2013 11:15

clanwar trash can wait until it's released publicly, I doubt anyone *that plays it* wants the "tryhards" insulting all the beta testers/developers.

You're the only one here insulting anyone... and they way you judge a group of people based on a few - it seems like you are the trash to me.


It's Mr Triggerbot. Of course he's trash, LOL.


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Re: RenegadeX [message #484940 is a reply to message #484939] Fri, 20 December 2013 12:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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love how people hate cw players, when basically its public players that play lobby wars nowadays + 2 cw players.

stop been such a tool sean.
Re: RenegadeX [message #484947 is a reply to message #484940] Sat, 21 December 2013 07:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think some of the hate is justified. You can't deny there wasn't or isn't at present - a circlejerky /arrogant mindset regarding cw cc players that permeates through the forums and in game from time to time.

Ermgergerd, do u even clan wars bro? Did u even clan wars bro? o what's that? I can't hear you over my incessant fapping to the old school cw players. DAE oldschool rene players? Only 0ld5ch00l3r5 will remember this, etc.

Conversely, he could just be jelly.

On topic: This community is fucking small. Just allow as many players to test as possible. Who cares if you get less qualitative feedback; it's not like you're going to have a huge disgruntled player base if perfect balance can't be achieved in one patch /release.

Re: RenegadeX [message #484948 is a reply to message #484947] Sat, 21 December 2013 08:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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miss guided hate*
Re: RenegadeX [message #484949 is a reply to message #484938] Sat, 21 December 2013 09:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GoTWhisKéY wrote on Fri, 20 December 2013 12:43

Sean wrote on Fri, 20 December 2013 11:15

clanwar trash can wait until it's released publicly, I doubt anyone *that plays it* wants the "tryhards" insulting all the beta testers/developers.

You're the only one here insulting anyone... and they way you judge a group of people based on a few - it seems like you are the trash to me.

This is the dude that got caught with triggerbot while he was AFK because somebody ran in front of his character and got blasted... of course he's trash


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Re: RenegadeX [message #484953 is a reply to message #484592] Sat, 21 December 2013 21:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The reason people think CW players are obnoxious is because trooprm02 ran around n00bstories and Jelly pretending to be one.

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Re: RenegadeX [message #484955 is a reply to message #484953] Sat, 21 December 2013 22:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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nah there were, albeit even worse than troop, there's none left anymore though.
Re: RenegadeX [message #484968 is a reply to message #484592] Sun, 22 December 2013 16:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: RenegadeX [message #484987 is a reply to message #484592] Tue, 24 December 2013 13:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There's a reason why we took two years after Black Dawn to develop the multiplayer version. We heard the feedback and constructive criticism, and took our time to develop a better game. It reminds me of the people who judged C&C Renegade by its mediocre singleplayer and missed out on the multiplayer. C&C Renegade is a multiplayer game, as is Renegade X. Whether you enjoyed it or not, Black Dawn was downloaded over 800,000 times, and most reviews were positive. Most of the criticisms had to do with the AI (which we didn't program in BD) and voice acting - both of which have nothing to do with our multiplayer mode. We've coded a completely new AI that can actually play C&C mode - buy vehicles and characters, defend and attack the base, repair buildings and units, and behave challengingly. Even the way our weapons and vehicles handle is completely different.

Now, I know you won't take me on my word, and that's why I'm inviting the RenegadeForums to take part in our Community Beta Test. I am specifically lending this opportunity to the naysayers here (ACK, iRANian, danpaul, Xpert, liquidv2), the Renegade oldies, TT, n00bstories, Jelly, and pretty much every C&C Renegade clan or community out there - dead or living. Go here: http://www.renegade-x.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=71158

You can either help us in giving life to Renegade and C&C mode, or you can continue sitting on your hands complaining until the game dies. W3D Ren is not getting more popular. If anything, it is just about dead. On the other hand, our trailer got 100,000 views in three days. It got on major gaming sites like PCGamer, RockPaperShotgun, Kotaku, and many others. Renegade X is happening now, it is relevant, and it is the way forward if we pull together as a community.

Westwood is gone, EA is not going to save you, and so the Renegade community needs to pull together and do something for ourselves. Plenty of Renegade oldies, including old clans and communities, are meeting up at the Renegade X forums and reviving their servers and groups on February 26th 2014. We're giving all the old Ren communities a chance to revive and reorganize themselves.

No game is perfect, and that's why we need your help. There's no room for old rivalries and bickering. That all leads nowhere. If you have something constructive to say, then join us, sign up for the beta and tell us what's on your mind. Make Renegade X a better game, and if you're not interested, you're more than welcome to stick around in W3D.


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Re: RenegadeX [message #484988 is a reply to message #484592] Tue, 24 December 2013 14:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So back to my question did anyone who is actually good at Renegade play this beta?

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Re: RenegadeX [message #484991 is a reply to message #484988] Tue, 24 December 2013 16:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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iRANian wrote on Tue, 24 December 2013 22:32

So back to my question did anyone who is actually good at Renegade play this beta?


What is the connection between someone who is good @ regular renegade and renegade x? i outplay many people at different games but they will most likely outplay me at other games, so therefore your question makes no sense.


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iRANian wrote on Tue, 24 December 2013 16:32

So back to my question did anyone who is actually good at Renegade play this beta?


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