| Curiosity about 9/11 [message #481740] |
Fri, 07 June 2013 17:32  |
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zeratul
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I want someone to explain to me how the twin towers falling defied the third law of motion naturally.
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When one body exerts a force on a second body, the second body simultaneously exerts a force equal in magnitude and opposite in direction to that of the first body.
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By this logic the top should have slowed down, if not stopping completely and falling off to the side. In what way is it possible they fell from weakened steel and then plowed through layer after layer of concrete and unweakened steal as if there was nothing even there?
And i want an actual answer not some vague counter argument that doesn't answer anything, insults, or news articles. I want an exact answer as to how it could have broken the third law of motion naturally.
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| Re: Curiosity about 9/11 [message #481749 is a reply to message #481740] |
Fri, 07 June 2013 19:06  |
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Why are you asking people here and not an engineering forum or place full of qualified individuals that will refute your already made-up beliefs that it was all HURR DURR BUSH CHENEY BARACK HUSSEIN OBOMBER?
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56 |
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| Re: Curiosity about 9/11 [message #481754 is a reply to message #481751] |
Fri, 07 June 2013 20:06 |
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| Zeratul wrote on Fri, 07 June 2013 19:33 |
Can you answer the question?
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No we can't because it won't align with your preconceived notions that it was an inside job by the fluoride lobby.
Good luck blowing the conspiracy open! It'd be like Watergate!! You can call it COLGATE.
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56 |
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| Re: Curiosity about 9/11 [message #481760 is a reply to message #481758] |
Fri, 07 June 2013 21:44 |
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| Zeratul wrote on Fri, 07 June 2013 20:26 |
Explain to me how it defies the third law of motion im not asking anything about the government, this is about physics.
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The same question goes for you; explain how you believe it defied the third law of motion.
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| Re: Curiosity about 9/11 [message #481775 is a reply to message #481761] |
Sat, 08 June 2013 01:56 |
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| Zeratul wrote on Fri, 07 June 2013 21:58 |
| saberhawk wrote on Fri, 07 June 2013 22:44 |
explain how you believe it defied the third law of motion.
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The buildings top should have been completely demolished before it made it all the way down. The rest of the building may have still fell but not to the devastating effect that was. The top acted as if it didn't hit anything at all, only effected by gravity and not the building below. That isnt possible according to the third law of motion. Its force of hitting the building should have been equal to the force hitting it back. It obviously wasn't. Which because it is a natural law it cannot be broken without an external force applied to the bottom before the top hit it IE explosives, and thermite.
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You underestimate how effective gravity is as a multiplier. Once the supports failed, the upper half of the building started accelerating downwards at 9.81m/s². The second law of motion tells us that force is equal to mass times acceleration. Using that, you can estimate that the upper half suddenly started applying roughly 10x the force that it used to. There are very few buildings that are built to withstand such a difference in force; skyscrapers usually aren't.
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| Re: Curiosity about 9/11 [message #481814 is a reply to message #481796] |
Sat, 08 June 2013 14:34 |
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nikki6ixx
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| Zeratul wrote on Sat, 08 June 2013 10:22 |
Instead of insulting me could you actually show your counter argument. None of you have explained what way this is wrong. In fact you cant, you said it yourself, but it is you that live in the fantasy world of "the government actually cares about the people."
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We're not counter-arguing because you've already made up your mind that it was the evil vaccine makers co-conspiring with the fluoride lobby to release mountains of fluoride emissions from the melted steel within the twin towers. Then, Pfizer can ride a Crest of paranoia and convince people to inject their children with Mercury-laced Aspergers.
We're also not arguing because your talking points are formulated by other people, likely on infowars or a similar website. People create these talking points, so you and other individuals can roll into forums that are totally unqualified to discuss the subject.
If you went to a proper forum for engineering or even dialled up your friendly neighbourhood civil engineers, you'd have your ass handed to you because your pre-made talking points would be obliterated, and you would have nothing at all to come back with, because you won't be spoon-fed information from your cozy, conspiracy-theorist aluminium-bubble-forum.
So you come here. Because you are armed with the talking points, you make yourself out to be the expert. Infowars has likely also told you what answers to expect from the 'brainwashed sheep masses' and you can respond accordingly with more pre-packaged BS.
Also, you've made the debate one-sided because you've said:
| Zeratul wrote on Fri, 07 June 2013 17:32 |
And i want an actual answer not some vague counter argument that doesn't answer anything, insults, or news articles.
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You don't want those things because they are conduits of rationality. There are plenty of news articles, magazines and investigative, long-form journalism features that show the proper facts.
BUT OH NOEZ TEH MEDIA IS ALL CONTROL BY TEH JOOZ
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56 |
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| Re: Curiosity about 9/11 [message #481816 is a reply to message #481814] |
Sat, 08 June 2013 16:09 |
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| nikki6ixx wrote on Sat, 08 June 2013 14:34 |
BUT OH NOEZ TEH MEDIA IS ALL CONTROL BY TEH JOOZ
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LOL!
Im not an expert in this at all, but when someone comes to a forum and only has one point to argue for their entire conspiracy :/
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