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Re: What actually happened... [message #481642 is a reply to message #481432] Wed, 05 June 2013 18:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's really here nor there. Their management team decided for everyone.

Aircraftkiller wrote on Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:38

I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
deliver on, or forum trolls who contribute nothing except to bloat the fragile egos of the same
rejects I despise.

Re: What actually happened... [message #481650 is a reply to message #481629] Wed, 05 June 2013 23:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lmfao, soliciting donations for weed and forties. It's like a super nerdy Trailer Park Boys episode.

Wyld1USA wrote on Wed, 05 June 2013 13:08


bolded words = likely inflated self importance



You have the amazing ability of saying a lot while saying so little. You should consider PR.


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Re: What actually happened... [message #481651 is a reply to message #481432] Thu, 06 June 2013 01:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I always bash on Ani and his stupid decision making. I've known this guy since he was 12 and he was never a mature person even as he was growing up. But I give him credit for coming out like this. You can bash him for missing some elements, but he put honesty into this one post.

Everyone always told Ani, including myself, why let known/former cheaters play in RC even with him having the knowledge that the person has cheated before. He gave 2nd chances to people. As fucked up of a mix of players RenCorner had, it had people. People who did wrong in Renegade had somewhere to play and he gave everyone that freedom to get a 2nd chance to play this game.

No one has really picked out exactly what Ani did wrong other than the fact he used donation funds for things outside of RC, but he admitted to it. The guy said he was going to remove Trojan from the staff because he felt threatened by Trojan and he feels he's trying to throw him out of a community that he founded to begin with. When Trojan found out, he locked Ani out of his access.

The very same people Ani has put to do the community task while he's away, is going against him but why? Because he's not stabled to lead the community? That's the whole purpose of the staff he's put in charge to do that task. You don't see us at Jelly trying to overthrow Jelly himself just because he's never around. And don't throw in the "Jelly didn't do [insert negative occurance here]". Doesn't matter, you don't just overthrow the founder of a community and expect everything to be ok.

This whole drama, all it's doing is dividing players and killing a community faster. You think making a 2nd community is going to solve anything? No it won't. How many times have the same people tried this in the past and failed. Has Allied-Gaming and a bunch of other split communities not teach anyone a lesson? They all failed and the players who are stranded; well 50% stop playing ren, and the other 50% become divided into whatever is left in Renegade.


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Re: What actually happened... [message #481655 is a reply to message #481432] Thu, 06 June 2013 06:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you look through the split between us back then, you'd see much the same arguments, Xpert. End result: people got sick of you and your bullshit too. I can draw the dots for people, but it's up to them to draw the line in the sand on their own. You both would do all sorts of stupid shit to people. The only difference you didn't jack money.

The person I mentioned being on our teamspeak talking shit about you Ani, was Xpert. Irony.

Area54 was flooded to death by Animo and one other person. I found that out way after the fact. The whole time I thought it was that Forkane guy. I took you at your word that the flooding was not you. It was botnetted to death as well when they ended up not fighting with each other and "joined forces for the lulz".

I found that bot crap on one of our boxes, freaked the fuck out, and went to Cronus. I had him login to it, to look at it, and to find anything else if there was. Then it was deleted from the box, and that night it just so happened both of those people were on our teamspeak. How long did I yell at you two, do you even remember Animo? Or were you to hopped up on drugs to even recall? You guys laughed at me and took none of it seriously.


I think everyone knows the MPF/RC drama.


Aircraftkiller wrote on Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:38

I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
deliver on, or forum trolls who contribute nothing except to bloat the fragile egos of the same
rejects I despise.

Re: What actually happened... [message #481656 is a reply to message #481642] Thu, 06 June 2013 06:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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shaitan wrote on Wed, 05 June 2013 21:58

It's really here nor there. Their management team decided for everyone.


To clarify: The management of the hosting company knew who had been paying the bill or they wouldn't have changed the name on the account.


Fact: Since the news got out that Ani was no longer the owner our player counts went dramatically up as well as people on ts. Some may say there are other factors that involve that but the fact is the spoken words on the ts by these players are "we are here because he is gone." Otherwise they would be on Ani's ts.


Ani knows this, we have talked. He will admit he is a different person than when we started and I respect him for that. He does want to make amends and correct things. I don't doubt that at all and and respect that.

We (and the staff) just don't want to deal with it. The Comm is up and running including the web and we are back to playing renegade. No mods have quit and we haven't heard from one of our players that they are upset. No one that has posted in either thread even plays in our server.

Nothing was stolen or done illegal, a lot of money changed hands and the conversations were Ani was selling RenCorner to Volcom. Shai and I and the staff know why Volcom took the steps he did and obviously we back him as we are still here. I wouldn't support or be a part of a illegal take over of someones assets.

So we move on.



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Re: What actually happened... [message #481659 is a reply to message #481432] Thu, 06 June 2013 06:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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To make the point yet again: he wasn't treated the way he was because "he wasn't around", during that timeframe RC was...harmonious. It hadn't seen that for half a year at least. So much stress, and almost everytime Greg was at the root of it.

Where I'm at now, is where I'll be. Period.

He is more than welcome to come and play with us, after we split that night, there was never any other bans issued in the Ren/TS/IRC/MC against him. He just can't abuse anyone anymore.


Aircraftkiller wrote on Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:38

I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
deliver on, or forum trolls who contribute nothing except to bloat the fragile egos of the same
rejects I despise.

Re: What actually happened... [message #481697 is a reply to message #481655] Thu, 06 June 2013 17:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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shaitan wrote on Thu, 06 June 2013 09:17

If you look through the split between us back then, you'd see much the same arguments, Xpert.



Completely different, but okay, lets get defensive about it for no reason. Notice how a lot of the recent renegade issues involving communities have involved you in it? How ironic. If for a second you don't think you bring problems everywhere you go, then you really do need to rethink everything by starting from the beginning.

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End result: people got sick of you and your bullshit too. I can draw the dots for people, but it's up to them to draw the line in the sand on their own.



That's why 90% came back and realized how stupid Allied-Gaming was. It never even launched. Go figure.

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The person I mentioned being on our teamspeak talking shit about you Ani, was Xpert. Irony.



I didn't talk shit LOL. Why are you trying to fire things up again that aren't true? You just love pushing drama. The only thing I said about him and I've told him before to his face also was he has always made stupid decisions and it's just now getting worst especially with wasting money on weed. How's that talking shit? Seriously. I didn't ask about the situation, Trojan asked me to come on TS to tell me what happened (from his point of view). I didn't ask about anything nor really cared. I just pretty much listened to what he had to say. So if that's talking shit, then damn, I'm guilty, lol.


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Re: What actually happened... [message #481699 is a reply to message #481697] Thu, 06 June 2013 17:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: What actually happened... [message #481700 is a reply to message #481432] Thu, 06 June 2013 17:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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god damn it trist im sorry!

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Re: What actually happened... [message #481701 is a reply to message #481432] Thu, 06 June 2013 19:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I agree completely with Xpert here. You can fault Animosity for his actions such as spending donations on personal things. He's not the first and won't be the last but at least he has admitted it. Credit where credit is due.

I hope that there is some sort of resolution and a stable community formed, regardless of who is hosting it. There is nothing worse than feeling like you have no home community, people end up quitting. Look at n00bless and how many people are still here after that breakdown.

Recreating communities just doesn't work. I've tried myself and been apart of a few. Exodus was the only one that worked, and look at it now. Long gone.

I'm on the fence, I wasn't really a part of RenCorner, but I wish the best of luck to both Trojan and Animosity.

I sympathise with the innocent players who have been caught in the middle of this storm, chances are they'll never call another community home.

I know I haven't since the days of Atomix ended.


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Caveman wrote on Fri, 21 January 2011 08:26

Well this topic is still going on. I have to say I haven't watched much Anime recently (maybe a year or so) the last thing I saw was GITS (for the third time)

Im not too sure whether I just dont enjoy Anime anymore or whether its just I dont have time really to shit and watch it.






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Re: What actually happened... [message #481712 is a reply to message #481432] Fri, 07 June 2013 01:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Caveman wrote on Fri, 21 January 2011 08:26

Well this topic is still going on. I have to say I haven't watched much Anime recently (maybe a year or so) the last thing I saw was GITS (for the third time)

Im not too sure whether I just dont enjoy Anime anymore or whether its just I dont have time really to shit and watch it.






Re: What actually happened... [message #481713 is a reply to message #481432] Fri, 07 June 2013 01:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: What actually happened... [message #481725 is a reply to message #481697] Fri, 07 June 2013 14:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Xpert wrote on Thu, 06 June 2013 17:16

How ironic. If for a second you don't think you bring problems everywhere you go, then you really do need to rethink everything by starting from the beginning.


You wasn't around in Ren Corner for long Xpert, you don't know all the shit that shai had to fix, he was and still is the beating heart of Ren Corner, if it wasn't for him, it would've shut down last year, no problem.

If he wasn't so understanding, fair and honest then no one would listen to him over there.


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Re: What actually happened... [message #481726 is a reply to message #481725] Fri, 07 June 2013 14:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hypnos wrote on Thu, 06 June 2013 19:17



I hope that there is some sort of resolution and a stable community formed, regardless of who is hosting it. There is nothing worse than feeling like you have no home community, people end up quitting. Look at n00bless and how many people are still here after that breakdown.

Recreating communities just doesn't work.



Hypnos, there has already been a resolution. 95% of the players are playing together happily over at the new rencorner. They have all the servers up and they are operational and the forums have just been fixed. teamspeak is thriving, irc is thriving, the forums are getting going again and the game server is very active with a lot of players enjoying themselves (including me & Sarah) and are having fun.

Come stop by on teamspeak some time old friend: ts.rencorner.ca

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Re: What actually happened... [message #481727 is a reply to message #481725] Fri, 07 June 2013 14:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sean wrote on Fri, 07 June 2013 22:04

Xpert wrote on Thu, 06 June 2013 17:16

How ironic. If for a second you don't think you bring problems everywhere you go, then you really do need to rethink everything by starting from the beginning.


You wasn't around in Ren Corner for long Xpert, you don't know all the shit that shai had to fix, he was and still is the beating heart of Ren Corner, if it wasn't for him, it would've shut down last year, no problem.

If he wasn't so understanding, fair and honest then no one would listen to him over there.


I can't comment either because I wasn't part of RenCorner either - but it does seem rather coincidental that everytime there is a community split that shaitan is somehow directly involved.

No offence intended.


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Caveman wrote on Fri, 21 January 2011 08:26

Well this topic is still going on. I have to say I haven't watched much Anime recently (maybe a year or so) the last thing I saw was GITS (for the third time)

Im not too sure whether I just dont enjoy Anime anymore or whether its just I dont have time really to shit and watch it.






Re: What actually happened... [message #481741 is a reply to message #481432] Fri, 07 June 2013 17:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The whole reason that Animoski sold rencorner was because he was fucked up on more drugs, and thought it would be a nice profit to buy more drugs lol... Seeing as it was a verbal agreement there was nothing in writing so clearly there was no proof aside from his words against the other but as you saw, rob payed the amount of $1500 to animoski. Greg also stole donation money, but denied it everytime. He caused loads of drama to the players in Minecraft, Banned people due to them talking to him/annoying him. Would be constantly racist IG of Renegade & Teamspeak/IRC while it is in the rules that racism is not allowed. Yet this took him a year to understand. he would constantly pick on younger, and or smaller people,(age & maturity wise)have them rage then say he never did anything wrong. Trojan was the on everyone went to, to fix shit because people actually liked him, and knew that he would get to done, and fix the problem the best he could. Greg was fucked up all the time, and never gave a shit. When he came back like a little more than a month ago! someone came to him asking him for help because he was the founder, and Greg's reply was "man i dont even fucking care". Great founder.Honestly, I was ready to leave the community along with some others due to this constant bullshit harassment. He always fucked up, and made everyone else pay for it because he was never there. Greg i hope you read this, and actually see all the things you fucked up with.

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Re: What actually happened... [message #481753 is a reply to message #481432] Fri, 07 June 2013 19:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Don't care what you or two-faced bitches like Sean think. I'm glad this happened, made me realize how many of you are complete fakes.

Always acting like your friends yet having your own agenda and if you can't get it done with that person you aren't even friendly anymore. Enjoy putting up with eachother (and people like Sean who get unbanned 5x back to back...)
Re: What actually happened... [message #481763 is a reply to message #481432] Fri, 07 June 2013 22:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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have you ever stopped to think people acted nice towards you because they were afraid you'd get pissed at them and remove their mod status or ban them or something? i've seen what that's like, so it would be completely understandable to me

though i do think Cyanide and his brother (or friend, whichever) aren't classy individuals
(strongly recommend not making them moderators, but it's not my call!)


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Re: What actually happened... [message #481769 is a reply to message #481432] Fri, 07 June 2013 23:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah I probably play in-game to much, not sit on IRC all the time and respond to to many mod requests to be considered a good mod in jelly's eyes.

Oh well, not like this topic is about Jelly anyways.

Moving on. ^^
Re: What actually happened... [message #481770 is a reply to message #481432] Fri, 07 June 2013 23:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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playing a lot doesn't mean someone would be a good moderator; that comes down to the kind of person
i'm pretty sure the power would get to your head, be it at Jelly or RenCorner or anywhere
i'm unsure if you have the capacity to be a fair and unbiased person

as you said, carry on with the topic at hand


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Re: What actually happened... [message #481771 is a reply to message #481432] Fri, 07 June 2013 23:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: What actually happened... [message #481780 is a reply to message #481432] Sat, 08 June 2013 06:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah lol. I'm not even going to get into it.
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Caveman wrote on Fri, 21 January 2011 08:26

Well this topic is still going on. I have to say I haven't watched much Anime recently (maybe a year or so) the last thing I saw was GITS (for the third time)

Im not too sure whether I just dont enjoy Anime anymore or whether its just I dont have time really to shit and watch it.






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