| Re: What actually happened... [message #481550 is a reply to message #481545] |
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| shaitan wrote on Tue, 04 June 2013 13:11 |
| Ani wrote on Tue, 04 June 2013 14:09 |
| Catalyst wrote on Tue, 04 June 2013 03:49 |
| Ani wrote on Mon, 03 June 2013 21:36 |
What do you guys think about Trojan giving people away my password he got from Minecraft server logs to try to login into all my things, including shit like Facebook?
Oh how mature that law student is, lol.
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Why would you enable reverse encryption of passwords ... or auditing?
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I'm not the guy who setup the server. We had a fellow named Shadow start the whole thing up, and between 4 different developers - none of them knew how to properly run the server.
Just in the past 48 hours alone, Cronus managed to make the server 20x more stable, with the fuckton of error messages in console all gone and it's now less laggy running on 2GB of RAM when we used to get kicked off if it had less than 4GB lol
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The one currently on the windows box is running 1.7gb ram. 2 rencorner minecrafts...LOL.
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good job from cronus, he was always good with servers and shit ~
just turn off reverse encryption and than your passwords and shit won't be compromised
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| Re: What actually happened... [message #481560 is a reply to message #481432] |
Tue, 04 June 2013 19:00 |
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shaitan and Wyld are the main assets of the community. Trojan is now their own pay puppet, and shaitan pretty much controls that aspect as Wyld just goes with the flow.
I've been telling people i'll be running my own RenCorner server, with the .NET part of it in the name to let people know i'm running it, and not some self-proclaimed Hitler related scumbag who in the past has tried to buy his way into community. Xpert, someone who in the past disagreed with me on a lot of things ended up shooting me some messages about how he actually read the long fucking essay that took me all night to wrote and told me he believed me the whole way through and honestly that means something to me.
When I took control of RenCorner and backed what up what I could for that hour window LSN gave me before following the money trail and locked me out, I managed to get the website backed up, and our MC server. On the main rene server I was locked out within 5 minutes sadly.
In the entire time RenCorner has been in my power, including that fight for server hosting, my downtime has been at most an hour long. Trojan, ending up with access to the servers and everything managed to wipe a whole server losing their website, OSTK's website that was on and everything. It's definitely not cool a lot of people have lost information with their own things but there's nothing I could've done different to help you out. I tried to keep you guys from having a downtime but Trojan was the one who started and shutdown the entire box over 40 times in a night only to proceed to have the box wiped without thinking about backing anything up lol
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| Re: What actually happened... [message #481562 is a reply to message #481432] |
Tue, 04 June 2013 19:06 |
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Derped post.
| Aircraftkiller wrote on Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:38 |
I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
deliver on, or forum trolls who contribute nothing except to bloat the fragile egos of the same
rejects I despise.
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| Re: What actually happened... [message #481564 is a reply to message #481432] |
Tue, 04 June 2013 20:14 |
shaitan
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Derped post.
| Aircraftkiller wrote on Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:38 |
I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
deliver on, or forum trolls who contribute nothing except to bloat the fragile egos of the same
rejects I despise.
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| Re: What actually happened... [message #481566 is a reply to message #481432] |
Tue, 04 June 2013 20:23 |
shaitan
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Derped post.
| Aircraftkiller wrote on Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:38 |
I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
deliver on, or forum trolls who contribute nothing except to bloat the fragile egos of the same
rejects I despise.
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| Re: What actually happened... [message #481569 is a reply to message #481568] |
Tue, 04 June 2013 20:28 |
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Derped post.
| Aircraftkiller wrote on Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:38 |
I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
deliver on, or forum trolls who contribute nothing except to bloat the fragile egos of the same
rejects I despise.
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| Re: What actually happened... [message #481573 is a reply to message #481566] |
Tue, 04 June 2013 20:41 |
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| shaitan wrote on Tue, 04 June 2013 20:23 |
LETS GO BUY POT WHEN WE'RE STARVING.
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Maybe he smoked so much, got major munchies, and the problem was he ate all his food at once!
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Ramb8(to RamBonerUpAss) fuk u big ashole u a big jakass i stick my ramboner up u as
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Crush gives away med tanks like he gives away handjobs, everyday and as much as possible
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| Re: What actually happened... [message #481594 is a reply to message #481559] |
Wed, 05 June 2013 02:56 |
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| liquidv2 wrote on Tue, 04 June 2013 17:54 |
you have to admit, it takes balls to tell the truth about something like that
he gave lots of people second chances, and his best hope now is that people will do the same with him
though i'd be a little hard-pressed to trust someone again that used donation funds for anything other than the server
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and a known cheater too lol. plus completely untrustworthy and lacking a moral compass. But most of that applies to a lot of their community, the trustworthiness especially but lack of moral compass too, also pretty geeky losers who have double digit IQs. that's actually being nice because they're pretty much weirdos
that said hope the rencorner 'community' doesn't collapse because i dont want their garbage playing on jelly
Long time and well respected Renegade community member, programmer, modder and tester.
Scripts 4.0 private beta tester since May 2011.
My Renegade server plugins releases
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| Re: What actually happened... [message #481600 is a reply to message #481432] |
Wed, 05 June 2013 05:22 |
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Yet in RC, we would get rid of people like you Iran for the shit you would cause in the community. What's that say about people like you, when a bunch of degenerates would all agree that you're "too much" and just remove you? Your moral compass is about as true as a rapist.
If you do not like the spat between us in here, then kindly exit these topics and go back to butt ramming each other. Don't join our Teamspeak anymore Tiesto if think that way.
| Aircraftkiller wrote on Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:38 |
I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
deliver on, or forum trolls who contribute nothing except to bloat the fragile egos of the same
rejects I despise.
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| Re: What actually happened... [message #481629 is a reply to message #481563] |
Wed, 05 June 2013 13:08 |
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| liquidv2 wrote on Tue, 04 June 2013 22:46 |
the thing that strikes me as odd about your theory is Trojan didn't try to take your community over when he could have; he just followed what others were telling him
until you threatened to take him away, after all he'd invested in both the community and given to you personally, he hadn't actually done anything (arguably, what he did made sense)
what some people are saying and what he's actually doing look to be two different things here lol
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Liquid you have the best understanding of this out of anyone. Pretty much spot on.
This comes down to who can run the community the best today so it will be here as long as this game is going. My interest has always been about the players. You can argue all these other points forever and we will not solve anything. It is the past and done.
I like Ani and Volcom both equally. They both have their issues / quirks etc. It comes down to who is stable to run the community. Volcom has been that stable person for at least 6 months. Regardless if the community was purchased or not. I told both of them they sucked at documenting what actually happened there and it would have helped to have this in writing.
I would really love to take this to Judge Judy. I can see her siding with either side.
Judge Judy's decision in favor of Volcom:
Ani: Based on your logs you accepted substantial funds that gave the rights to run RenCorner to Volcom. Your post said you were stepping down and giving control to Volcom. In addition you created a perceived threat via pm's(regardless if you would have executed on it) which resulted in the current owner, Volcom, taking action to protect his assets. You certainly would have done the same.
Judge Judy's decision in favor of Ani:
Volcom: If you in fact purchased the Community, you should have documented it as such in writing and much stronger than the logs presented.
However we don't have Judge Judy, we have Judge RenForums. I don't think either could make the correct decision as I know I am struggling with it and I know more facts than anyone next to Shai.
Regardless who sides with who, or what RenForums judges happened here, Volcom has been paying the bills, been around active with the players, and other than being guilty of deleting the VPS from trying to battle a server take over, hasn't done anything to be removed.
Not sure what else can be discussed or decided on this as it is done. Both Ani and Volcom are moving in their own directions. Maybe we will have two RenCorner Ren servers up at one point but we all know there is only enough players for one server to survive. Really the players are going to decide this going forward.
So I will bid this thread a farewell as I am also moving on.
"Who cares what people think, it is what you know." "Feel the Love."
~Original Demo Player~
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| Re: What actually happened... [message #481633 is a reply to message #481432] |
Wed, 05 June 2013 15:12 |
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The main thing I see a problem with is the hijacking of the hosting account by logging in as Ani to ask them to change the primary account holder. I would think you'd actually have legal grounds there (not that it's worth the money to pursue).
I'm the bawss.
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