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| Re: MPF banning players for being extremely good at a 11 year old game [message #480938 is a reply to message #480854] |
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zunnie
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Registered: September 2003
Location: Netherlands
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We don't ban people who are really good at this game.
You have been watched oh so many times through spectator mode, screenshots have been taken to discover what you are using, and nothing showed up.
Thing is we don't have the anti-cheat features enabled on the NewMaps 4.0 server so cheating is possible up to a certain point apart from what is blocked by 4.0 on the client.
I'm not going into detail to what is possible and what is not.
Many of our moderators and admins have been thinking you are using some sort of cheat, hack or unfair advantage in game.
We have waited months before deciding to ban you for potentially cheating because we DID NOT WANT to ban you without proof of any sort.
You are just freaking amazing at this game OR you (ab)use something or are extremely lucky at times to get so many kills and no deaths it's not even funny anymore.
Again, i did not "WANT" to ban you for being "Good", it is because most of us believe you are hacking and getting away with it.
That game on DOM_Tutorial with the two cranes in domination style (the game after which i banned you) was imho nearly impossible;
You killed everyone like it was nothing second after second, where everyone else killed two or three guys and then died once you kept going on and on without dieing.
I'm not saying you should have died, but the gameplay was just so hectic on that map that it was nearly impossible to not die sometimes lol.
Yet you rarely died and kept owning everyone over and over until i had enough of it and you really convinced me you were using something.
I'm sorry if you do really not cheat and this ban is unjustified, you are the first we banned for cheating WITHOUT any actual proof.
Also note that we do not have to provide proof for any ban we issue; We can ban anyone we want for whatever reason we think deems that nessecary, we just choose to -in most cases- provide proof or reasoning.
The proof lacks here but the reasoning is simple: We believe you are using something; Therefor you are banned from the server. Nothing more nothing less.
The only way you can convince me you are legit is this: I would have to sit next to you on your pc playing renegade on our server and STILL killing people left and right like it's nothing, only then i will be absolutely sure you don't cheat and i will lift the ban.
But this will never happen. Sorry.
Greetz zunnie
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| Re: MPF banning players for being extremely good at a 11 year old game [message #480951 is a reply to message #480931] |
Mon, 20 May 2013 11:21 |
iRANian
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Registered: April 2011
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| Mauler wrote on Mon, 20 May 2013 01:28 |
| iRANian wrote on Mon, 20 May 2013 01:51 |
Like? You guys could at least cover your ass and not ban people for being extremely good at a game, really.
Cause it honestly looks really pathetic and doesn't really make people feel good about your server, as already shown in this thread.
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I really do not see what is pathetic, but ok.. if you think so. The only people that don't "feel" good about our server are majority of the members of this forum/other communities. If you don't like MPF, go enjoy another server, we are not stopping you..
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You really don't see what's pathetic about banning players for being extremely good? Are you for real? Wow..
Long time and well respected Renegade community member, programmer, modder and tester.
Scripts 4.0 private beta tester since May 2011.
My Renegade server plugins releases
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| Re: MPF banning players for being extremely good at a 11 year old game [message #480952 is a reply to message #480854] |
Mon, 20 May 2013 11:27 |
BAGUETTE
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Registered: June 2010
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Zunnie just banned me too, derp.
I try to place peacefully and DJ joins who has clearly IP'd joins and spamming "owned" everytime he comes close to killing me or i die by another player.
Zunnie arrives 5 mins later to stir up some shit, "why you playing on a smurf".
"Trying to get banned like iran?"
"hurr durr, have a ban too"
Basically how it went
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Ramb8(to RamBonerUpAss) fuk u big ashole u a big jakass i stick my ramboner up u as
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Crush gives away med tanks like he gives away handjobs, everyday and as much as possible
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| Re: MPF banning players for being extremely good at a 11 year old game [message #480956 is a reply to message #480854] |
Mon, 20 May 2013 11:31 |
BAGUETTE
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Registered: June 2010
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Why would I want to get unbanned LOL, its a server full of retards(retarded moderators, players actually seemed nice), played for what 15-20 mins? Racked up 40 kills, sure, what makes it more retarded is you retards who come out of hiding to bombard me.
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[20:18:24] <&NewMapsBot> Kleenex: yes thats exactly what im doing!
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You couldn't sense the sarcasm in that?
You were clearly baiting this to happen, ofc I was going to post here after that, how would I possibly pass up this opportunity to show whats left of the renegade community how retarded you are.
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Ramb8(to RamBonerUpAss) fuk u big ashole u a big jakass i stick my ramboner up u as
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Crush gives away med tanks like he gives away handjobs, everyday and as much as possible
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| Re: MPF banning players for being extremely good at a 11 year old game [message #480959 is a reply to message #480938] |
Mon, 20 May 2013 11:38 |
iRANian
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Registered: April 2011
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| zunnie wrote on Mon, 20 May 2013 06:30 |
We don't ban people who are really good at this game.
You have been watched oh so many times through spectator mode, screenshots have been taken to discover what you are using, and nothing showed up.
Thing is we don't have the anti-cheat features enabled on the NewMaps 4.0 server so cheating is possible up to a certain point apart from what is blocked by 4.0 on the client.
I'm not going into detail to what is possible and what is not.
Many of our moderators and admins have been thinking you are using some sort of cheat, hack or unfair advantage in game.
We have waited months before deciding to ban you for potentially cheating because we DID NOT WANT to ban you without proof of any sort.
You are just freaking amazing at this game OR you (ab)use something or are extremely lucky at times to get so many kills and no deaths it's not even funny anymore.
Again, i did not "WANT" to ban you for being "Good", it is because most of us believe you are hacking and getting away with it.
That game on DOM_Tutorial with the two cranes in domination style (the game after which i banned you) was imho nearly impossible;
You killed everyone like it was nothing second after second, where everyone else killed two or three guys and then died once you kept going on and on without dieing.
I'm not saying you should have died, but the gameplay was just so hectic on that map that it was nearly impossible to not die sometimes lol.
Yet you rarely died and kept owning everyone over and over until i had enough of it and you really convinced me you were using something.
I'm sorry if you do really not cheat and this ban is unjustified, you are the first we banned for cheating WITHOUT any actual proof.
Also note that we do not have to provide proof for any ban we issue; We can ban anyone we want for whatever reason we think deems that nessecary, we just choose to -in most cases- provide proof or reasoning.
The proof lacks here but the reasoning is simple: We believe you are using something; Therefor you are banned from the server. Nothing more nothing less.
The only way you can convince me you are legit is this: I would have to sit next to you on your pc playing renegade on our server and STILL killing people left and right like it's nothing, only then i will be absolutely sure you don't cheat and i will lift the ban.
But this will never happen. Sorry.
Greetz zunnie
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Can I at least prove that I'm as good as you think? It wouldn't have been hard for me to start frapsing or anything.
I don't think I was playing that well that game in any way, I got lucky with the Ramjet spawns. On the maps before I wasn't playing that well either.
As you said it was on that DM map and I was using non-instahit guns like LCG too. If you're not dead set on banning me we could play the same map with me running FRAPS or something that doesn't affect my playing abilities and I could show you how I'm manually using free aim.
Because I honestly don't know what to do to prove otherwise, I could petition players or something but then it's still word against word. You could ask mods who also played on st0rm the last few months they were open and I was playing just as good then.
tristt (ehh), i0ncl0ud, gohax, xpert and some other people also play below my level but your moderator team would also think they're extremely good. if that tristt fatso would actually play a few times on MPF.
So yeah if you wanna set up a few games with me frapsing or something that doesn't cause my PC to lag too badly, so i can prove my innocence. You know where to find me. I also knew you guys were making remote SS of me about every time I've played on the server for more than 30 minutes, nor did I break any rules or game or even use chat other than for saying hello, asking for donations politely or to use chat commands and occasionally use radio commands.
Long time and well respected Renegade community member, programmer, modder and tester.
Scripts 4.0 private beta tester since May 2011.
My Renegade server plugins releases
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