| flame tank right click [message #473101] |
Mon, 13 August 2012 10:04  |
Major-Payne
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why was the right click left nozzle double damage removed from the flame tank?
Any tank can basically kill any infantry easily, except the flame tank now...
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| Re: flame tank right click [message #473107 is a reply to message #473106] |
Mon, 13 August 2012 23:52  |
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Mon, 13 August 2012 19:37 |
It makes no sense to do double-damage from only one nozzle. It makes no sense to do double-damage at all.
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Well it's still the same amount of damage, since the other nozzle won't be used.
Instead of 50/50, it's 100/0, which allows for more specialized aiming
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| Re: flame tank right click [message #473112 is a reply to message #473101] |
Tue, 14 August 2012 12:24 |
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As it stands now, the flamer is the only tank in the game which can't kill infantry at any rate unless they are half-dead already, or stupid enough to be squished.
You can easily rip heads apart with hummers, buggies and apcs, headshot with meds and lights, artys and mrls goes without saying, once you figure it out you can regularly double bodyshot or headshot people with stanks and mammoths of course just rape.
But flame tanks? They can't even get 2 bars off infantry.
It's kind of retarded since it's been a standard thing for TEN YEARS to use right click against infantry and NOBODY ever saw it as a bug, I always thought it was part of the game, just like mrls right-click.
Why would you remove that?
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| Re: flame tank right click [message #473124 is a reply to message #473115] |
Tue, 14 August 2012 23:46 |
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| ehhh wrote on Tue, 14 August 2012 13:15 |
well the flame tank destroys any vechicle, making it shit at killing infantry, seems fair.
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Well the way it used to be before 4.0 is that any tank can basically destroy any tank (save for the buggy and hummer, which I've only seen happen in CWs) and kill any kind of infantry in one on one.
Now the Flame tank is the ONLY tank that can't kill any infantry capable of doing acceptable damage one on one.
If you wanted to cover a nuke with a flame tank in the past you could drive back and forth and drive back and right-click hotties in the face if they wanted to mote you, now all you can possibly do to kill them is squish them, and they will remote you quite easy.
The flame tank is mostly a rush-to-the-base tank, and it is now MUCH less capable of doing this since it has no way of defending against infantry, so it can't hold out as long as it used to. I remember I used to camp behind the wf on islands with an early flamer if I got my motes/timed off. This is now completely impossible since you can't kill infantry around the corner anymore
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| Re: flame tank right click [message #473125 is a reply to message #473112] |
Wed, 15 August 2012 01:03 |
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| Major-Payne wrote on Tue, 14 August 2012 21:24 |
As it stands now, the flamer is the only tank in the game which can't kill infantry at any rate unless they are half-dead already, or stupid enough to be squished.
You can easily rip heads apart with hummers, buggies and apcs, headshot with meds and lights, artys and mrls goes without saying, once you figure it out you can regularly double bodyshot or headshot people with stanks and mammoths of course just rape.
But flame tanks? They can't even get 2 bars off infantry.
It's kind of retarded since it's been a standard thing for TEN YEARS to use right click against infantry and NOBODY ever saw it as a bug, I always thought it was part of the game, just like mrls right-click.
Why would you remove that?
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Because the reason it did that was a bug, one that was noticable with other aspects of the game. I'm not sure if the flametank issue was discussed at that time.
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| Re: flame tank right click [message #473164 is a reply to message #473101] |
Thu, 16 August 2012 02:51 |
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I can't be sure, as it was a long time ago when I tried, but I think changing values in the armor.ini on the server acuss the client to mis-match.
I'm not sure that there is an elegant way of increasing damage server-side, although with TT that may no longer be the case.
I know it's deffinately possible, but the implementation I am thinking of would look pretty shitty from a programming perspective.
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