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Why is my connection to Jelly Server garbage? Tracerts included. [message #468007] Sat, 26 May 2012 04:32 Go to next message
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Hi. I was wondering if anyone could provide some insight, or give some advice as to what can be done about this.

Basically, my ping on Jelly Marathon always hovers at 300+. Yet my connection to other servers for other games in the US is nearer to 200. Trying to snipe on Jelly is just god awful, it literally is like playing whack-a-mole. Yet I've played on other Rene servers with 300 ping, and it's smooth as anything. My KBPS remains constant, but it seems like there is packet loss or something else to blame due to the sporadic movement of the players. Some packet loss is seen in the tracerts.

I realise this will be probably be scoffed at due to the sheer amount of variables that can influence ping times. Routing, server locations, differences in quality of the servers etc etc. However, I feel my ping should be lower.

The two game servers I tested between are Jelly and League of legends. If I'm not mistaken, Jelly's is hosted in Dallas, and LoL in Santa Monica (Half the country away from each other - 3 more hops)

My questions are:

1. Why is hop 14 always missed to jelly?
2. Is network congestion to blame for the large variation in packet times?
3. What can I do about this?

Tracerts to Jelly:

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Grateful to anyone who goes through this and offers any advice.

Thanks.


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Re: Why is my connection to Jelly Server garbage? Tracerts included. [message #468008 is a reply to message #468007] Sat, 26 May 2012 04:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The answer would probably be renegade.

I get around 180-200 ping in renegade, 90-120 in other games.

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ehhh wrote on Sat, 26 May 2012 12:37

The answer would probably be renegade.

I get around 180-200 ping in renegade, 90-120 in other games.



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Re: Why is my connection to Jelly Server garbage? Tracerts included. [message #468010 is a reply to message #468007] Sat, 26 May 2012 05:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jelly's server is shit, I generally get 40~ less ping on other USA servers. I also get twice the KBPS on NS, did you try checking that too? And yeah trying to hit infantry on Jelly is terrible, USA based players will be able to hit you before they even appear on your screen if both players don't see each other yet. :/

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Re: Why is my connection to Jelly Server garbage? Tracerts included. [message #468017 is a reply to message #468007] Sat, 26 May 2012 08:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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isn't that how lag works? the player with a higher delay will see things after they physically happen? you sound surprised

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Re: Why is my connection to Jelly Server garbage? Tracerts included. [message #468018 is a reply to message #468007] Sat, 26 May 2012 08:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yeah but it's only supposed to be 0.1 (assuming 200 ping) seconds after the other player did, while on jelly it's more like a whole second. Happens quite a bit that I get shot at before on my screen I move in the open. :/

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Re: Why is my connection to Jelly Server garbage? Tracerts included. [message #468040 is a reply to message #468007] Sat, 26 May 2012 13:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Me and Jelly run the same type of box. I'm just going to assume bandwith settings are set wrong.

I can play fine in Jelly but then again I'm in the US.

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Re: Why is my connection to Jelly Server garbage? Tracerts included. [message #468041 is a reply to message #468007] Sat, 26 May 2012 13:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yeah i've always been mystified about that because you couldn't tell that they're hosted in the same room, i get a bit more sliding on atomix but a lot less warp, never checked the in-game kbps at similar player counts, the jelly lag issue happens even with less than 20 players and a constant 200-220 ping

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i've gotten so used to playing with the lag that when we had the ren birthday thing in a european server i couldnt hit shit

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yeah i get that too, it's just weird

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Re: Why is my connection to Jelly Server garbage? Tracerts included. [message #468057 is a reply to message #468040] Sat, 26 May 2012 16:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Xpert wrote on Sat, 26 May 2012 21:32

Me and Jelly run the same type of box. I'm just going to assume bandwith settings are set wrong.

I can play fine in Jelly but then again I'm in the US.


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Jelly could have set the Netupdaterate (nur) lower than Atomix. This makes a notable difference.

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Re: Why is my connection to Jelly Server garbage? Tracerts included. [message #468060 is a reply to message #468007] Sat, 26 May 2012 17:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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possibly

and for the record, a00 has sat empty for years now
not sure why people still think hostnames are everything; if that were so Exodus would have gotten off the ground

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Re: Why is my connection to Jelly Server garbage? Tracerts included. [message #468061 is a reply to message #468007] Sat, 26 May 2012 17:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for the replies so far. It seems like there are a lot of people who experience the same lag, maybe there is something slightly amiss on Jelly's end.

I'm no network engineer, but I think my ISP has to take some of the blame / shitty infrastructure. As you all know, Australia isn't exactly ahead of the competition in terms of Broadband infrastructure. The massive variation in packet times throughout the tracert can only be attributed to congestion or some other malfunction on their end.

However, I still think that player movement / lag should be better on Jelly. I just want to find out why.

I might post this on Jelly forums, see if I can catch the attention of someone who runs the server.

I might fraps a section of gameplay, and see if KBPS drops when everything goes to hell.

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you most certainly should post on Jelly Blush

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Re: Why is my connection to Jelly Server garbage? Tracerts included. [message #468074 is a reply to message #468062] Sat, 26 May 2012 21:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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liquidv2 wrote on Sat, 26 May 2012 18:26

you most certainly should post on Jelly Blush



Liquid, I haven't been able to get on Jelly's website in about a week or so....what the fuck man? Angry lol

(My laptop died about a week ago as well so I'm using my computer built circa 2001 so that probably has a lot to do with the bs, but I can't access it with my phone either and I've been able to do that for years now)

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iRANian wrote on Sun, 27 May 2012 01:26

Happens quite a bit that I get shot at before on my screen I move in the open. :/


Even worse is when you snipe someone, but they don't actually die until they've moved behind a wall. Your target is then 100% sure that you are hacking Smile

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liquidv2 wrote on Sat, 26 May 2012 17:15

possibly

and for the record, a00 has sat empty for years now
not sure why people still think hostnames are everything; if that were so Exodus would have gotten off the ground


lol exodus died because when we were on our peak and had the server filled 50/50 in the first week we had a retard bipolar mod called stallion david who started banning people like rohirrim which basically emptied out the server even more quickly than crimson could have done with the info she got from using old n00bstories passwords to get into the admin section of the exodus forums

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Re: Why is my connection to Jelly Server garbage? Tracerts included. [message #468102 is a reply to message #468079] Sun, 27 May 2012 21:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Major-Payne wrote on Sun, 27 May 2012 03:47

liquidv2 wrote on Sat, 26 May 2012 17:15

possibly

and for the record, a00 has sat empty for years now
not sure why people still think hostnames are everything; if that were so Exodus would have gotten off the ground


lol exodus died because when we were on our peak and had the server filled 50/50 in the first week we had a retard bipolar mod called stallion david who started banning people like rohirrim which basically emptied out the server even more quickly than crimson could have done with the info she got from using old n00bstories passwords to get into the admin section of the exodus forums


Nah, I'm pretty sure it was for the reason liquid stated. Don't get me wrong I'm sure that guy helped (who I had totally forgotten existed until just now), but it barely lasted two weeks of activity on the AOW (the modified servers have always done better than the aow ever did ironically).

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Ethenal wrote on Mon, 28 May 2012 05:39

Major-Payne wrote on Sun, 27 May 2012 03:47

liquidv2 wrote on Sat, 26 May 2012 17:15

possibly

and for the record, a00 has sat empty for years now
not sure why people still think hostnames are everything; if that were so Exodus would have gotten off the ground


lol exodus died because when we were on our peak and had the server filled 50/50 in the first week we had a retard bipolar mod called stallion david who started banning people like rohirrim which basically emptied out the server even more quickly than crimson could have done with the info she got from using old n00bstories passwords to get into the admin section of the exodus forums


Nah, I'm pretty sure it was for the reason liquid stated. Don't get me wrong I'm sure that guy helped (who I had totally forgotten existed until just now), but it barely lasted two weeks of activity on the AOW (the modified servers have always done better than the aow ever did ironically).
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