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Re: Joejjj80 - The worst moderator in the entire world [message #467510 is a reply to message #467405] Sat, 19 May 2012 00:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Firstly Ethenal and liquid, i love you guys more than Tiesto loves milking cats <3

Secondly, i don't give two fucks about st0rm. Never have, never will (as much as i love reading the beef and feel free to continue).

TankClash, i respect your opinion greatly but you are not seeing it from both sides of the spectrum. i am generally polite in game and never attempt to make any issues with folks in game. I am not just defending myself from this abuse but defending others who are seeing this abuse first hand too. If you read the replies in the topic you will see that the majority of replies back me up on my claims.

~iTaLy





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Re: Joejjj80 - The worst moderator in the entire world [message #467511 is a reply to message #467496] Sat, 19 May 2012 00:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 18 May 2012 16:10

Xpert wrote on Fri, 18 May 2012 14:42


But yet you came here to make this post with a lot of grammatical errors. Sarcasm


You just missed the massive run-on sentence he posted.


I didn't LOL. You should start "grading" his posts. I'd find that very humorous.

Anyway, I went into NS to play. Found that joe was ingame. Only thing I had about him was the fact that people would complain to him about cheating, and instead of handling it, (me in this case) he would just tell them to post on the forums.

Someone complained about me with SBH reveal or some shit, and he just told the guy that he was playing and I was using 4.0; if he had problems to post on forums.

iTaLy wrote on Sat, 19 May 2012 00:11

Firstly Ethenal and liquid, i love you guys more than Tiesto loves milking cats <3

Secondly, i don't give two fucks about st0rm. Never have, never will (as much as i love reading the beef and feel free to continue).

TankClash, i respect your opinion greatly but you are not seeing it from both sides of the spectrum. i am generally polite in game and never attempt to make any issues with folks in game. I am not just defending myself from this abuse but defending others who are seeing this abuse first hand too. If you read the replies in the topic you will see that the majority of replies back me up on my claims.

~iTaLy








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Re: Joejjj80 - The worst moderator in the entire world [message #467512 is a reply to message #467405] Sat, 19 May 2012 00:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i actually don't know what happened more recently with St0rm, i've only been around again recently, but from what i heard SHIT WENT DOWN!
Re: Joejjj80 - The worst moderator in the entire world [message #467513 is a reply to message #467439] Sat, 19 May 2012 04:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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liquidv2 wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 09:33

i didn't say anything either way goat boy; read my post again

the fact that Azazel supports the guy honestly makes me think less of him, and again i have yet to meet him



You know Azazel blindly supports anything n00bstories. You're acting just as much like a sheep to just blindly NOT support anything he supports.


I'm the bawss.
Re: Joejjj80 - The worst moderator in the entire world [message #467514 is a reply to message #467445] Sat, 19 May 2012 04:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Shark wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 10:59

i think just like the jarhead issue you will probably lock or delete this thread and ban anyone who complains more. this will not work anymore.


OK, I don't give much credence to people who post as smurfs, but this here that I quoted, never happened. So who's lying now?


I'm the bawss.
Re: Joejjj80 - The worst moderator in the entire world [message #467516 is a reply to message #467514] Sat, 19 May 2012 05:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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tiny sounds a lot like troop tbh
Re: Joejjj80 - The worst moderator in the entire world [message #467525 is a reply to message #467490] Sat, 19 May 2012 11:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Crimson wrote on Sat, 19 May 2012 04:38

You know Azazel blindly supports anything n00bstories. You're acting just as much like a sheep to just blindly NOT support anything he supports.
Tis true. Although, I have no need to lie, Joe is genuinely a really good moderator that gets the job done as we both know. Italy is well known for his trolling (in Ax as well) so this thread really isn't surprising at all.



Tiny wrote on Fri, 18 May 2012 14:46

Azazel for all I care you can die in a fire with aids that's how much I care


You've got the wrong end of the stick tbh. I understand st0rm still supports other games, I was genuinely wondering how's the community coping - never had a problem with you. I however do detest Wilo.


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Re: Joejjj80 - The worst moderator in the entire world [message #467526 is a reply to message #467525] Sat, 19 May 2012 11:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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you must never play in ns then azazel :/
Re: Joejjj80 - The worst moderator in the entire world [message #467527 is a reply to message #467405] Sat, 19 May 2012 12:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well known for my trolling? go fuck yourself sideways. this is a serious topic. i moderated atomix for years and at one stage pretty much single-handedly moderated the server (before and after Xpert took over). as ehh said you don't play there on a regular basis and you are not looking at it from both perspectives. you are just choosing sides. so please don't bother commenting anymore. your opinions are about as valued as Azaz... oh wait...

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Re: Joejjj80 - The worst moderator in the entire world [message #467528 is a reply to message #467525] Sat, 19 May 2012 15:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Azazel wrote on Sat, 19 May 2012 19:38

Italy is well known for his trolling (in Ax as well)

So is everyone else trolling too? I've watched and seen his "moderating" You're blatantly fishing for a bad response from iTaLy with that.

Everyone has their bad moments as a moderator, but I've yet to see one of his good moments. I've seen a few incidents in the little periods I play so I can understand why people are at least a little pissed at this guy.



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Re: Joejjj80 - The worst moderator in the entire world [message #467529 is a reply to message #467527] Sat, 19 May 2012 15:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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iTaLy wrote on Sat, 19 May 2012 12:26

well known for my trolling? go fuck yourself sideways. this is a serious topic. i moderated atomix for years and at one stage pretty much single-handedly moderated the server (before and after Xpert took over). as ehh said you don't play there on a regular basis and you are not looking at it from both perspectives. you are just choosing sides. so please don't bother commenting anymore. your opinions are about as valued as Azaz... oh wait...




I don't play there on a regular basis? lol, you need to get yourself updated, sir.


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Re: Joejjj80 - The worst moderator in the entire world [message #467530 is a reply to message #467527] Sat, 19 May 2012 16:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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iTaLy wrote on Sat, 19 May 2012 13:26

i moderated atomix for years and at one stage pretty much single-handedly moderated the server (before and after Xpert took over).

Listen When was that?


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I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
deliver on, or forum trolls who contribute nothing except to bloat the fragile egos of the same
rejects I despise.

Re: Joejjj80 - The worst moderator in the entire world [message #467531 is a reply to message #467530] Sat, 19 May 2012 16:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So you play they regulary and have never seen joe do something out of line for a mod?

ooooooooook!
Re: Joejjj80 - The worst moderator in the entire world [message #467532 is a reply to message #467531] Sat, 19 May 2012 16:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ehhh wrote on Sat, 19 May 2012 16:04

So you play they regulary and have never seen joe do something out of line for a mod?

ooooooooook!


That statement would be correct.


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Re: Joejjj80 - The worst moderator in the entire world [message #467534 is a reply to message #467405] Sat, 19 May 2012 16:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well if you do play i haven't seen you, or are you too ashamed to use Azazel these days? i'm in there daily and get on great with mods and players alike, with joe being the only exception

and Shai you thought me a lot as a mod and you know i was pretty fair and decent. both before the split i did a lot and after when i came back i would do a lot of the work and put in most of the hours ingame.

Tiesto still likes milking cats btw
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1. Trying to head a crusade against Exodus, when he wasnt even remotely involved in any of the split-off, simply trying to lick ns admin's arse
2. Trying to head a crusade against cheaters, cheating himself
3. Leaving quickly like a little coward, without a word, when getting caught
4. Coming back, receiving nothing but contempt from anybody he encounters, still stays
5. Goes on doing what he was always doing, licking ns admin arse and not even having an opinion of his own

I think azazel is genuinely the most pathetic person I have ever seen in the renegade community, and that's saying a lot since there are a lot of people in this game who are full-blown psychopaths, including people who drive around a country with a video threatening others over forum comments, child predators and people who want to meet up with mods for sex to get unbanned

Azazel is a nobody, whatever anyone he tries to suck up says, he echoes.

Pathetic.


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Re: Joejjj80 - The worst moderator in the entire world [message #467536 is a reply to message #467405] Sat, 19 May 2012 17:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MUDKIPS! i also love you
Re: Joejjj80 - The worst moderator in the entire world [message #467537 is a reply to message #467405] Sat, 19 May 2012 17:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was just poking at the "single-handed" bit, Italia. Wink

Just ignore Joe, and stop messing with him. When you first started playing there regularly, there was some incident and I said a few things to him in IRC. He didn't take the advise and just made things worse by blowing it out of proportion and making it escalate further. That's something he shouldn't be doing. Looking back through logs it seems to be a frequent problem.
At any rate, cut your losses, Italy. With the owner backing it you cannot win.


Aircraftkiller wrote on Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:38

I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
deliver on, or forum trolls who contribute nothing except to bloat the fragile egos of the same
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Shai, i never intended to win, just to bring it to attention! the fact i'm muted for a week and everyday joe comes in game he pokes fun at me now is not nice. i ignore him and jut continue to play, but it's just downright bullying.

i know what's right and what's wrong for a moderator, but what he's being doing even recently is wrong
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iTaLy wrote on Sat, 19 May 2012 17:47

Shai, i never intended to win, just to bring it to attention! the fact i'm muted for a week and everyday joe comes in game he pokes fun at me now is not nice. i ignore him and jut continue to play, but it's just downright bullying.

i know what's right and what's wrong for a moderator, but what he's being doing even recently is wrong


A whole week? That shux.


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Re: Joejjj80 - The worst moderator in the entire world [message #467540 is a reply to message #467539] Sat, 19 May 2012 19:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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no just a normal week, you stupid scouse rat retard.
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Once again Azazel, it's not about the length of the punishment it's about why it was dished out. It was unfair. Azazel please just stop giving your pointless inputs here. Your ability to not see my point is quite bad on your part and quite stupid.
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You could just try clicking this to stop seeing what he posts.
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yeah just add him to your ignore list, anyway he should be banned from ns according to joejj80, he definitely hasn't played there recently at all and when he did no one knew who he was

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Shark wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 10:59

he's very hard to work with this joe

what he does is push people and provoke them into defending themselves. when they do defend that's when he hits them right in the face with a nice mute or kick. not everyone on the internet has a thick skin and naturally people defend themselves and get into arguments when insulted. i am sick of this terrible person creating a bad atmosphere in the server and terrorizing others this way.

i have been on the internet long enough to know all kinds of people and how to deal with each kind. sadly not many can say this as most people the joe bans are young and innocent guys just playing the game after a rotten day at school and generally new to the internet. the best way to deal with the likes of this joe is to totally ignore and just focus on the game. it sucks because i like the server. i just play play play and don't bother with the drama joe dishes out. but I can't help the feeling that i am in some sort of dictatorship when playing because you never know that the most innocent thing you might say or even a joke could backfire on you with joe.

crimson, is that the sort of atmosphere you want your players to be in? i am not talking about those regulars who established their names in the server but to the massive numbers of people that populate the server each day in their free time?

btw, this is not my real account. i dare not use my main account. imagine how joe would look at me next time i am in server? to him now i am another silent player (cos i ignore his manipulation) and i like it to be that way. <--- says a lot about the nature of joe doesn't it? the need to use a smurf account to testify against him to avoid repercussions while playing a ten year old game?

Crimson wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 02:21

It's really a shame that someone as awesome, level-headed, and hard-working as joe has to be subjected to such trolling, and then publicly bashed for doing his job and taking out the trash.

I've gotten the low-down on what you guys pulled on the server and I think you should be ashamed of yourselves for acting like such childish little brats.

Joe doesn't deserved to be bashed here, or anywhere.


if there's any shame in this thread it's your 3 sentence pack of lies quoted above. a disgraceful pack of lies statement like this that reads like it came from Xinhua isn't gonna work this time around.

the ignoring of the charges, lies and coverups are no longer going to silence those who have borne the brunt of this person's unjustifed attacks.

the guy PROVOKES people into fighting him. does that not make anyyy sense to you? there's a big difference between getting a "low-down" by reading logs or talking with your mod on teamspeak versus actually playing the game and being the target of his provocation.

i think just like the jarhead issue you will probably lock or delete this thread and ban anyone who complains more. this will not work anymore.

doesn't bother me in the least as i mentioned before i know how to deal with this kind of individual. but not everyone can censor themselves and strip their own humanity away and turn themselves into a robot like i do to play in your server. sad part is i like gameplay conditions in your server. very much.

will you actually listen to the people who are raising a legitimate concern of your mod's behavior or will you post another Xinhua post?

will you actually keep in mind that i have to use my smurf account here to post these comments about your moderator since i fear the retaliation of him when i am ingame next time? or does such mind-numbing tyranny mean nothing to you? raising concerns about someone who should not be let anywhere near the reins of power = bashing to you? I do agree that those who have posted in this thread have used language that is not appropriate (regarding which I will address to them below) but these are based on the behavior of joe ingame and not some fantasy.

i plead you to reconsider.

Azazel wrote on Thu, 17 May 2012 12:09

liquidv2 wrote on Wed, 16 May 2012 23:50

i've heard nothing but bad things about both jarhead and this joejjj guy; i have yet to meet either of them in Renegade


The likes of you that have never even played with him have can't really comment on the way he moderates you only have a third hand account, so butt out. He's a fine moderator and I've never seen him go over the top at all. Everyone that's "broken the rules" got what they deserved fully.


listen there disgraced fallen angel, why don't you stop posting? nothing you do or say will erase your criminal history nor will you get anywhere near the reins of power anymore. i hope.

like it or not i got a firsthand account of this joe and have seen him maneuver, manipulate, and provoke innocent players to boil them up to a point of rage just to mute and kick them. this issue will only be settled after the truth will be acknowledged by the NS PTB. or they can choose to ban and delete this thread. on behalf of those he abused and demoralized, i will no longer be silent in this issue.

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as advice to people who have borne the brunt of tyranny from joe including the topic starter, i suggest to tone down the language, eliminate ad hominem completely, remove all crude pictures and to make your statements and present your arguments using decent to-the-point posts. a passionate, clean, and pure line of reasoning will be required to fight this type of injustice. so please first get started on editing your posts and clean-up, please. if we use standards of decency in this debate, it will be difficult for the NS establishment to ignore you or brand you as "bashers"

bear in mind that this is not something against NS or the outstanding server facilities provided to us to enjoy our free time but against the internal corruption of one of the mods and false, immoral Xinhua-type lies being announced by NS to cover it up.

in summary, this situation has arisen because:

-NS moderator Joejjj80 has been for years used cruel manipulation to maneuver unaware and unsuspecting players and provoke them into a fight so they can be muted or kicked.

-a calm smooth peaceful server environment is turned to warfare and strife because of the aforementioned actions of NS moderator Joejjj80.

-the situation is no longer bearable as players all across enjoy the NS server and its outstanding facilities, gameplay conditions, gameplay settings, and that such enjoyment is being corrupted by the tyrannical provoking activities of NS moderator Joejjj80.


Nice post but it's a shame Crimson doesn't have a response to the real meat of this post.
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