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Re: To all the servers out there [message #466764 is a reply to message #466715] |
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fredcow9
Messages: 32 Registered: December 2005
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Quote: | your car was searched and a bunch of cocaine was found in the trunk
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More like baby powder
Quote: | i don't need to feel better; all this did was prove your title further
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I have a title?
Quote: | i'm fine; you're obviously not because you chose to use cheats
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never knew cheating was related to illnesses.
Quote: | it would have helped had you come clean about it;
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What part of banned for life dont you get? Also what part about I didnt cheat dont you get?
Quote: | you're in denial and i don't expect you to anytime soon, since it took you literally years to admit to using R-G-H in n00bstories and st0rm (not like we didn't already know that)
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This really shows how little you actually know about noobstories and storm. I never have ever used rgh. Thats just some bullshit.
Quote: | using the files you were is considered cheating; they are cheat files
n00bstories does not differ much from Jelly Marathon, and we in no way appreciate you claiming to be a Jelly player in any sense of the word
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Quote: | certainly not by the same process that covers serial bans
as i so clearly stated numerous times already
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so again, not caught doing anything wrong.
Quote: | i'm a fixed record, working properly
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Ill notify everyone
Quote: | it is actually you that is broken
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wheres the mechanic?
Quote: | if i didn't know any better i'd say you're just a successful troll
i have no problem correcting you though
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waiting for the first correction.
Quote: | i believe you were forum-banned due to the PM convos that you had with moderators; there was likely no need to allow you to continue posting when you were clearly going to continue lying about it
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no, the form ban came when lurker suggested it in the topic. I dont know when the ban took place because I didnt log onto jelly for a few days but when I went to log on I was banned and checking the end topic lurker is who you see.
Quote: | well derfie, it goes like this
if i didn't know any better i'd give you the benefit of the doubt, but that's not the case here
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The same liquid who stated Id give any other player the benefit of the doubt besides fredcow
Quote: | since i know you've cheated for years in other servers and just recently got caught using cheats on Jelly Marathon why should i believe you haven't been using cheats on Jelly Marathon for months?
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Because your faulty in thinking Iv been using cheats straight for years...wow
Quote: | i never claimed to know everything, and i don't honestly think i know everything
if i thought i knew everything i would likely try to use my knowledge to win in casinos!
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free money yay!
Quote: | the first incident with st0rm was literally years ago; are you trying to dispute my statement of "considering you have been using cheats for well over two years now"? you used R-G-H at least several times in the past few years; do you deny this truth?
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Its in massive dispute.
Quote: | you should quit shaking your head and try to be honest here
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already was, so the head continues its shaking motion. smh
Quote: | i don't actually believe you still play
though,
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I dont play in jelly servers
Quote: | if you did, you'd likely go unnoticed unless you started using aimbot or something like you did in n00bstories and st0rm
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aimbot, another useless hack. guess youll never know what I was using at the time.
[Quote: | color=skyblue]i'm going to assume you're spouting nonsense since you can't back it up in any way, shape, or form
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you know what they say about assuming
Quote: | if you're going to venture an opinion out there on a matter you should at least be able to back it up[/color]
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opinions are opinions...not facts EVER.
Quote: | that's a lie, and i already covered it in my previous post
i have no problem with people disagreeing with me, but i hope they have a reason for it
there have been many occasions where people with differing opinions changed my mind on them because their reasoning made far more sense than my own
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excellent.
Quote: | you're more than welcome to think that this is just a conspiracy theory to get rid of you because you're an outspoken individual that challenges the mod staff on issues because everyone else is just too afraid to speak up
you're quite a mighty hero there derfcow; i hope someone writes an epic poem about you someday
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maybe they will like the strong bads childrens book.
Quote: | that, or you were banned for cheating and are trying entirely way too hard to deny it
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LOL you still think I have reason to deny anything in a neutral forum where I basically told the jelly mods to piss off?
Quote: | you would never have been banned had you not been cheating; had it been someone else on that name they would have been banned too because - guess what - they were cheating
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nah, you guys know who I am.
Quote: | had it been me i would have been banned and demodded / likely banned from everything Jelly-related
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because as a mod your entrusted with things. as a player your entrusted with nothing, just provided a place to play by some kind people who keep a good server going.
Quote: | it's certainly starting to seem that way
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what was the point of that?
Quote: | like i mentioned above, your case was discussed with moderators via PM
they allowed you the chance to come clean,
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WHAT!? ask scruffy and torn for the pm's post them here and show me the entry point of "comming clean". If I had the chance to lie and say I cheated, I would have. always remember all banned persons get unbanned by telling mods what they want to hear. No one is actually "sorry" or "remorseful"
Quote: | but since you opted to lie instead they decided to lock the topic
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Thats not why, I never got a chance to do anything and you know it.
Quote: | the piece of my post that you quoted is referring to your years of being on the Jelly forums, for the record
i'm sure it doesn't help your case that people know how thick-headed and unreasonable you are; were you just a random player they would likely be more lenient, but since you're a long-time regular and expected to know better you were probably not given any leniency
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Which is what I get for being loyal to a server for almost a decade. I hope the other regulars read that part because thats fucked up.
Quote: | that's the thing; i don't think you actually realize it when it happens
that explains why you're still denying this to the grave
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No I just didnt see what warrented dishonest fuck in your last post.
Quote: | some people can't help but lie; they can be caught red-handed shoplifting by a police officer and on video camera and still they lie about it
i'm beginning to think you just may be one of those people
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well Im not.
Quote: | i'm speaking to you as a person, not a moderator
you can hold that against me if you'd like, but no one ever said i have to be courteous to you
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no but it shows your character
Quote: | especially not after you've cheated and lied about it in a server i've moderated on and been a part of for years
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save the semantics.
Quote: | i don't know derfie; is there a way to measure thick-headedness?
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your supposedly the thick headed expert.
Quote: | you can ask anyone that's observed you on the Jelly forums and knows what of you that i know; i'm sure you'll get a similar response
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only because your an admin, people tell me different things.
Quote: | i spoke on Mumble to a former ren player last night and was going to mention you cheating and getting banned; i said "Remember fredcow?" he said "The annoying retarded guy?" i didn't have to say anything; he came up with that all on his own
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cool story, I spoke with many former mod/admins throughout the years (thus how I know what I know about the server) actually on jelly server about just how retarded you and SOME of the other admins are. I never really believed any of them until recently.
Quote: | it's just my observation, as un-biased as i can make it
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Quote: | i'm being completely honest with you
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Quote: | the way you're acting after having cheated in a video game is why i said what i said, if you're wondering
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LOL
Quote: | it has nothing to do with cheating in a video game, though i'm sure a correlation could be made somewhere
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nah its just your character.
Quote: | i'm no psychiatrist derfie, and i'm not sure what mental ailment would most fit your description
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so why would you claim im mentally ill if you dont even know what mentally ill really is?
Quote: | i don't have to quote anything; look at what's happening with this entire situation
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there is no situation in case your wondering.
HugeQuote: | just put huge quote tags around it
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Quote: | perhaps my character has an issue with ignorant idiots who continue to spew idiocy even after being shown that they're wrong
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As stated before, anyone that disagrees with you is an idiot.
Quote: | in your case though, i'm accepting that you can't help it and that i should try to be nicer to you
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nice pr
Quote: | i don't recall you ever encouraging people to question you
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Its because you dont read my post contents.
Quote: | interesting point, however, because you ignored most everything that didn't agree with your position
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funny you did the same.
Quote: | perhaps you think moderators should be more like yourself; that's how you end up with a dictatorship
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I do?
Quote: | no, it's certainly not
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Quote: | you've done nothing to prove otherwise in all the time i've known of you either
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my interactions with you are done on a basic as possible basis because I know your not one to actually read anything or even note anything that shows your wrong. Why argue with a stone wall? I never interacted with you outside of the public forum. I have been with the forums for many years, the public forums is not where all my conversations take place...
Quote: | i detect a hint of sarcasm!
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ding ding ding!
Quote: | however, this is an accusation that you cannot back up
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of course
Quote: | i hope you have the decency to retract your baseless statement; it's essentially a lie
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how?
Quote: | i don't expect that of you though derfie ![Razz](images/smiley_icons/icon_razz.gif)
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shows more about your character. derfie.
Quote: | perhaps you can show an example of this; i don't believe it actually happened
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Of course Im down to waste my time.
Quote: | you said it all right there
"Why did you even tell me this? I dont care"
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If I said it all why did you respond to it?
Quote: | you needn't say more; you've made it quite clear that you don't much care about anything that doesn't agree with you in the first place
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No, Iv made it quite clear I dont care about you. Your taking yourself and applying it to everyone else. facepalm.
Quote: | since the Jelly mod staff doesn't agree with your claim of innocence you don't care about them (even though they're right)
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would you?
Quote: | absolutely not; where is this baseless accusation coming from? you have a habit of spouting nonsensical garbage that cannot be supported in any manner
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wheres the garbage disposal?
Quote: | in the past i have agreed with you on various issues, though i doubt you remember
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sure, I know you didnt used to be entirely unreasonable.
Quote: | you can think all you want that i'm a closed-minded, biased individual
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why even write that then?
Quote: | i know you will anyways, but i would like if you could prove such a thing
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let me waste my time.
Quote: | i'd like to say we both know you can't, but at this point i'm wondering what reality you actually exist in
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do you really?
Quote: | not seeing it
please, do tell
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try some glasses then.
Quote: | LOL
jesus christ dude, it was an example
not sure if trolling or just an idiot
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thats what I was thinking when I read it tbh.
Quote: | i never claimed you are mentally ill; i said i wouldn't be the least bit surprised if you actually were
i said i think it would be for the greater good of mankind if you don't reproduce; that's my opinion based off of everything i know of you thus far
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Thats pretty fucked up.
Quote: | for all i know you could really be nothing like you portray yourself on the internet and be fooling me good!
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Quote: | from what i can tell you're an extremely ignorant, thick-headed individual; i shouldn't have to go back and gather evidence of situations where you did a good job of making yourself look this way
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Do you think I would present myself to you in any other way?
Quote: | you should be able to use this very situation as a good example, rather than trying so hard to maintain your false innocence
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theres no innocence to argue about, because I am innocent.
Quote: | of course not; where did i say such a thing?
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I dont think you read your own words
Quote: | something you have never done and likely will never do
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^but thats too common in your posts.
Quote: | there were some times where you tried to back something up, but your reasoning made no sense and was refuted by others' logic or reasoning
that didn't seem to matter to you though, because you likely dismissed it or filtered it out because it differed from your own opinion
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Like your doing right now.
Quote: | if you really are mentally ill, i'm sorry for giving you such a hard time
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thats in line with your character.
Quote: | i had the impression you were just an ignorant assclown on the other side of Lake Michigan
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impressive.
Quote: | the person that i spoke to isn't even someone i know well; he's a former player and played in Ren-Archive
he posted occasionally and knows some people that i do actually know
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and that person and the text you speak of will remain anonymous.
Quote: | this person, at random, had come to the same conclusion about you that i have
are you surprised?
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No, if people dont hate on you then your probably too busy sucking everyones dick to notice how much of a spinless noob you are.
Quote: | when i'm wrong about something i have no problem admitting to it
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according to yourself.
Quote: | you're nothing like me;
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woah where did I claim something that stupid?
Quote: | you cheated and lied about it for years to dozens, if not hundreds, of people
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nah I told about 15 people. 3 immediately after in its progress.
Quote: | and that's about something as silly as using cheats in a computer game; you couldn't even be honest about that
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You take this all too seriously. the cheats were used for fun, something it seems you cant have.
Quote: | why wouldn't i? it's true ![Smile](images/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif)
just because it doesn't match the picture of me you painted in your head does not make it untrue
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going round in circles.
Quote: | the player did not cheat; he put R-G-H in the corner of the screenshot as a joke
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who knows if thats even the truth
Quote: | no one realized it had been a faked screenshot
why would i allow anyone to cheat? that's just silly
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Well now im uber skeptical of that.
Quote: | i doubt that, but ok
and whether you run cheats now or not is beyond me; you were banned for having and using them at the time that you were banned
and now that you've admitted to using *cheat name removed*in communities that have neighbored Jelly you probably aren't very welcome
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I didnt want to be welcome there, st0rm is a joke and noobstories became a huge joke. jelly is turning into one of those fad jokes on the verge of becoming the joke.
Quote: | by not playing because you're banned for cheating? ![Surprised](images/smiley_icons/icon_surprised.gif)
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oh the naiveness of some people.
Quote: | the coke was in the trunk; you can't rewrite history, no matter how many times you try
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the baby powder was in the trunk, some officers apologized but the chiefs of police stood their ground because the mayor would have a fit.
Quote: | you likely would have been banned from Jelly a long time ago
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Iv been banned 2 times before. Jelly himself was logical enough to let me back in after an allotted amount of time. again you dont know as much as you think you do
Quote: | not once did you do anything remotely suspicious that i can recall in all your time there, and i applaud you for that
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Quote: | what makes you think i'm supposed to be involved in anything? this is another pointed statement with no actual basis
i hope you can back it up in some way
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Quote: | because a handful of people knew about it does not mean that n00bstories or st0rm knew, which is what actually mattered
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It was just too funny seeing them squirm about it. If they had gotten the cheat right then sure. But they all didnt even think about the cheats I did use. STILL.
Quote: | for the record, you were a serious dipshit on both of their forums when the bans came around
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I know and I feel bad that I got unbanned there. Especially considering I got banned for life without being able to say anything for not even cheating.
Quote: | your little one-line apology in the OP is almost a slap to the face of the people that had to spend their time dealing with your immaturity
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You think they dont deserve to know the truth so they can prevent maliciousness to their server in the future?
Quote: | are you just anyone? no, you're not
you were a longtime regular, and as such are expected to follow the rules more than just anyone
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Thats what I get for supporting a server over the years.
Quote: | you even participated in inter-community wars (and maybe even a community war or two - i'd have to check to be sure)
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yes
Quote: | you also openly cheated on two neighboring communities, and managed to get banned at least once for breaking rules on the Marathon server
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indeed.
Quote: | had you admitted to it like a man you'd likely be unbanned in time,
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no, scruffy made it extremely clear in his pms posts, and locking of topics/forum ban that there was no hope.
Quote: | but like a child you chose to deny it exactly like you did at n00bstories and st0rm when you were banned on their servers
you were a real prick about that too
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I was egged on to be a prick and see what I could get away with. Getting around their shit isnt hard anyway.
Quote: | that's a half-admission, but not a full one
you're so very close!
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did you not read any of my posts previous to this one?
Quote: | the fact that you, a longtime regular and known player, decided to use cheats is in a way a betrayal
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stabbed in the back!
Quote: | if the mod in question decided to give you a lifetime ban it wouldn't be unwarranted
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So I didnt have a chance or I did have a chance? what is it
Quote: | were it my call though, it wouldn't be a lifetime ban
had you at least admitted to it in the first place
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I would have said whatever satisfied the people at the time, but I didnt even get that.
Quote: | because someone on the internet was wrong!
i'm trying to set the record straight, but in your case the record is broken and i'm likely just wasting my time being reasonable and rational with you
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as am I
Quote: | oh dear
the fact that they were in there is proof that you were using them; they are active there
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silly liquid, dont you know how to make them inactive? Or is your stance thats not possible?
Quote: | it's like having a map in the data folder; it's active and on without having to be turned on
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that can be done too.
Quote: | this excuse is almost as bad as "Steam put R-G-H on my computer" or "MUDKIPS' cat did it"
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why are you constantly involving *cheat name removed*which has NEVER been on my computer ever.
Quote: | i'll give you a cookie if you tell the truth!
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looks like youv owed me a cookie since post one.
Quote: | not all cheats are easy to detect
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They are actually easier than you think. I worked with jelly to help catch some of the cheats I used in noobstories and st0rm. surprising how little you guys know about these cheats.
Quote: | you also could have been using them for years and just sucked so badly that no one noticed anything out of the ordinary
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no, not really
Quote: | Lurker is a former mod, and he's a good guy
however, i really doubt that Lurker forum-banned you or was the deciding factor in you being forum-banned
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not hard to figure out
Quote: | i'm unfamiliar with the expression, but if you understand then great - i don't have to keep explaining it
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It refers when someone gets up to make a speech on a quick object that elevates them from the crowd as to draw attention. They then proceed to make some sort of moving or speech of information.
It was sarcasm m8
Quote: | do you have anything other than that, because you were mistaken when you thought i let a player cheat as a joke? the player didn't cheat; again, he edited a screenshot in Paint or Photoshop and put the tag in the corner
he was going to put shit on the radar too but i said that was probably unnecessary to be convincing
again, i had no idea it would fool so many people
a harmless joke turned into a huge ordeal, and i accepted the fault and moved on
i wouldn't do anything similar in the future because of how that turned out; my sense of humor is not always modlike
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You know how serious people in this game take cheats, look at the way you regard cheats as only being for sick people who need help to be good at the game. Posting something on that forum like that if your storys true is extremely fishy. I believe you, im not that unreasonable but surely you see the baseless accusation I just made as ludicrous? thats what Im going through. Your guilty for allowing cheats in your server as much as I am guilty of cheating in your server.
Quote: | dave2916 is skeptical
you have no proof whatsoever that Scruffy forum-banned you or his reasoning for it;
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here you go
Quote: | Yes remove him forever scruffy... Ban him from forums too
He still not sending a link of the skinpack.
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Quote: | It's already gotten hits on a few regular players... and with that.
Fredcow is permabanned, this topic is locked.
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liquid I know more about how you guys work than you may think. I know about the mod forums ect ect. their channels. maybe scruffy didnt make it happen but its hard to doubt given the 2 quotes above are the ONLY clues I have since I cant even log in to check any pms
Quote: | all you know is that you were forum-banned
Mike kicked you for destroying a mass? why are you surprised that that happened?
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he was th with the mass and was a half mod.
Quote: | the "banned for two weeks for giving tanks away" doesn't sound familiar to me; was that an error with the bot not letting you back in, or was that the incident where you were teamkilling and xxxozxxxx talked to skeptical about it?
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This was when I supposedly gave 2 tanks away and as a result received 2 weeks in ban time. Maybe you actually arent as unreasonable as I thought and legitimately just dont know about the things Im saying.
Quote: | i didn't allow a player to use R-G-H, and you misunderstood my post
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I got it.
Quote: | i allowed a player to post a faked R-G-H screenshot, and it ended up being so convincing that he was banned for it
the mistake was mine, and i unbanned him and apologized to the moderator both in private and in public
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excellent.
Quote: | so it's because people that dislike you and are biased against you became mods that you are banned now,
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skeptical banned me for 2 weeks. I had run in with him as a trial mod
scruffy didnt used to be an admin, he was just a mod and he never took much of a shine to me, Im banned by him.
rice back in the day cried up and down I needed to be banned to mods and got me banned.
I dont have this attitude towards bad modship for no reason. Its developed as a result of my treatment over all this time.
Quote: | and not because you used cheats? ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook there derfcow
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glad we understand each other.
Quote: | can you show me one time where a player was banned simply because "the mods did not like them"?
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yea let me go through and read every single ban topic and figure that out.
Quote: | if you try to cite your own case now then you're not only an idiot, you're also a liar
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lol why would I cite myself?
Quote: | i'm likely hoping for too much when i ask that you be honest instead of lying in this case
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liquid it goes like this. I have friends at jelly, some of them mods, ex mods, not mods. I tell them and trust some of them with information. You have never been in that group which is why you seem to have everything confused about things that happened in the past. This case right here, specifically is a I dont give a fuck case. Its the type of case where Im not going to lie but tell everything exactly as it is. you can believe that or you can simply not believe it. Its really as simple as that.
Quote: | what's the worst that could happen? the mods would say No guess what we don't give a shit you're staying banned anyways
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I know how mods work and their attitudes. scruffy gave me the first warn I had btw, then gave me a second warn for posting too much after forgetting about that first warn (it had been a while) His quick decisive response of your banned forever and locking the topic immediately only showed there was no chance dude. I dont know where your getting this idea I could have "come clean" (though I came clean about everything in these past posts)
Quote: | then you could ban evade or whatever made-up shit you said prior to this
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I just play in jelly here and there now, its not ban evading because Im not even rightfully banned with proof.
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Re: To all the servers out there [message #466774 is a reply to message #466486] |
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If you ever mapch mine, look for GTFOmyPC.txt.
Aircraftkiller wrote on Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:38 | I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
deliver on, or forum trolls who contribute nothing except to bloat the fragile egos of the same
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Re: To all the servers out there [message #466790 is a reply to message #466764] |
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fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
More like baby powder
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fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 | I have a title?
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you are derfcow, if i'm not mistaken
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 | never knew cheating was related to illnesses.
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who said it is? i wouldn't be surprised though if people that are more likely to cheat have other tendencies as well
might just be a symptom of a bigger problem
not sure how cheaters that continuously lie about it fit into that though
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 | What part of banned for life dont you get? Also what part about I didnt cheat dont you get?
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using cheat files is cheating; do you understand this concept?
what did your initial ban post say? did you deny that you had actually cheated within it?
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 | This really shows how little you actually know about noobstories and storm. I never have ever used rgh. Thats just some bullshit.
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fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 | so again, not caught doing anything wrong.
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fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | i have no problem correcting you though
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waiting for the first correction.
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there have been several; you're either not reading, or you're not comprehending
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 | no, the form ban came when lurker suggested it in the topic. I dont know when the ban took place because I didnt log onto jelly for a few days but when I went to log on I was banned and checking the end topic lurker is who you see.
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this is proof that Lurker is the reason you were forum banned? that's some nice proof you got there, i dare say
why don't you just openly ask here why you were forum banned if you want a straight answer?
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 | The same liquid who stated Id give any other player the benefit of the doubt besides fredcow
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you interpreted my wording incorrectly, and even tried to make a signature defaming me
i didn't care in the slightest because you're an idiot and no one takes you seriously
what i meant was, were you someone that i didn't know to be an idiot, i'd be far more likely to take what you said into consideration
since i've observed you for years now there was no reason for me to assume you simply "did not know any better" or had just made a mistake
you are responsible for your own actions; you broke a rule, and you were punished for it
there's no chance i was going to believe you over another player's testimony that i trust far more than your own and coinciding IRC logs
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 | Because your faulty in thinking Iv been using cheats straight for years...wow
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i never said that
i did say, however, that i wouldn't be the least bit surprised if you had
and that you'd been using cheats for years, having cheated in multiple servers numerous times in the last two or more years
i'm not sure you get the connection, but it's quite simple
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | the first incident with st0rm was literally years ago; are you trying to dispute my statement of "considering you have been using cheats for well over two years now"? you used R-G-H at least several times in the past few years; do you deny this truth?
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Its in massive dispute.
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it is?
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | you should quit shaking your head and try to be honest here
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already was, so the head continues its shaking motion. smh
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fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | i don't actually believe you still play
though,
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I dont play in jelly servers ![Rocked Over](images/smiley_icons/rockdover.gif)
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you've stated several times that you have or still do currently by ban evading; you're lying in at least one of these statements
i wish you'd be honest and stop being a liar in this situation
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 | aimbot, another useless hack. guess youll never know what I was using at the time.
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guess you're still a cheating faggot, and at this point it really doesn't matter what you were using
you're terrible and have always been terrible at this game; the only way you could get a rise out of people was using cheats to beat them
you're a truly pathetic person derfcow
you must feel a sense of pride when you say you've never cheated in Jelly Servers, enough to lie to yourself about it
at the very least, enough to lie to everyone else here about it
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | i'm going to assume you're spouting nonsense since you can't back it up in any way, shape, or form
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you know what they say about assuming
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you know what they say, derfcow says a lot of shit he can't back up and has no credibility
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | if you're going to venture an opinion out there on a matter you should at least be able to back it up
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opinions are opinions...not facts EVER.
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solid opinions are supported by facts; that's why a lot of your opinions are laughable, to say the least
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | that, or you were banned for cheating and are trying entirely way too hard to deny it
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LOL you still think I have reason to deny anything in a neutral forum where I basically told the jelly mods to piss off?
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why would you tell the Jelly mods to piss off? they're just doing their jobs, catching and banning cheaters from their servers
you should thank them for doing such a good job here
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | you would never have been banned had you not been cheating; had it been someone else on that name they would have been banned too because - guess what - they were cheating
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nah, you guys know who I am.
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...?
you were banned for using cheats, nothing else
you can keep telling yourself otherwise if it makes you feel better, but no one but you believes it
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | had it been me i would have been banned and demodded / likely banned from everything Jelly-related[/color]
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because as a mod your entrusted with things. as a player your entrusted with nothing, just provided a place to play by some kind people who keep a good server going.
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i'm aware; i'm explaining that things happen to people when they cheat
in your case you were banned for it
not because you're fredcow9 and people know you, but because you were cheating
even an admin is not exempt from cheating
that's the point i'm making; you seem to understand that, but you're not grasping the part about you being banned because you cheated
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | it's certainly starting to seem that way
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what was the point of that?
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i'm saying i think you're a fucking moron and that i'm probably wasting my time talking to you
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 | WHAT!? ask scruffy and torn for the pm's post them here and show me the entry point of "comming clean". If I had the chance to lie and say I cheated, I would have. always remember all banned persons get unbanned by telling mods what they want to hear. No one is actually "sorry" or "remorseful"
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i disagree with you on that, but i understand why you likely think that
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | but since you opted to lie instead they decided to lock the topic
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Thats not why, I never got a chance to do anything and you know it.
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i think the mods expected you to come clean and not act oblivious or deny it; since you didn't come clean they must have realized you were wasting their time and cut your topic off
you're still denying it even now, so i'd say they made the right decision
you're not worth their time, nor mine
i'm merely setting the record straight for anyone else that cares to read into it
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | the piece of my post that you quoted is referring to your years of being on the Jelly forums, for the record
i'm sure it doesn't help your case that people know how thick-headed and unreasonable you are; were you just a random player they would likely be more lenient, but since you're a long-time regular and expected to know better you were probably not given any leniency[/color]
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Which is what I get for being loyal to a server for almost a decade. I hope the other regulars read that part because thats fucked up.
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you were around for half a decade at most
if you're so loyal to the server why did you cheat on it? fuck you lmao
you expect people to turn a blind eye and pretend you're not annoying and retarded? why would they do that?
you have a strange sense of entitlement here; i'm not sure what you feel you're entitled to but it clearly upsets you that you're not getting it
Princess Derfcow got banished from the kingdom ![Sad](images/smiley_icons/icon_sad.gif)
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | that's the thing; i don't think you actually realize it when it happens
that explains why you're still denying this to the grave
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No I just didnt see what warrented dishonest fuck in your last post.
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gee, let me think
i've typed page after page of text out to you, being reasonable and honest
you're still lying to me, accusing me of numerous things you can't back up in the slightest, and still not in the least bit sorry for all the bullshit you cause for both st0rm and n00bstories when you chose to cheat on their servers
you are a dishonest fuck; that's just the way it is
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | some people can't help but lie; they can be caught red-handed shoplifting by a police officer and on video camera and still they lie about it
i'm beginning to think you just may be one of those people
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well Im not.
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if you were that's exactly the answer i'd expect from you ![Surprised](images/smiley_icons/icon_surprised.gif)
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | i'm speaking to you as a person, not a moderator
you can hold that against me if you'd like, but no one ever said i have to be courteous to you
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no but it shows your character
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i dislike ignorant people
it clearly shows through with you
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | especially not after you've cheated and lied about it in a server i've moderated on and been a part of for years
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save the semantics.
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eat a dick
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | i don't know derfie; is there a way to measure thick-headedness?
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your supposedly the thick headed expert.
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fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | you can ask anyone that's observed you on the Jelly forums and knows what of you that i know; i'm sure you'll get a similar response
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only because your an admin, people tell me different things.
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if you say so
i'm actually curious as to which people think highly of you in any manner
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | i spoke on Mumble to a former ren player last night and was going to mention you cheating and getting banned; i said "Remember fredcow?" he said "The annoying retarded guy?" i didn't have to say anything; he came up with that all on his own
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cool story, I spoke with many former mod/admins throughout the years (thus how I know what I know about the server) actually on jelly server about just how retarded you and SOME of the other admins are. I never really believed any of them until recently.
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people are entitled to their own opinions
if there's evidence to show i'm retarded i'd like to see it
simple proof that you're an annoying retarded guy: you cheated on multiple servers and lied about it for years
that's both annoying and retarded
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | it has nothing to do with cheating in a video game, though i'm sure a correlation could be made somewhere
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nah its just your character.
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you seem to be upset that i'm not courteous to you
is there some reason i should be? ![Surprised](images/smiley_icons/icon_surprised.gif)
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | i'm no psychiatrist derfie, and i'm not sure what mental ailment would most fit your description
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so why would you claim im mentally ill if you dont even know what mentally ill really is?
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what the fuck? where did you come up with that bullshit lmao
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | i don't have to quote anything; look at what's happening with this entire situation
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there is no situation in case your wondering.
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fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | perhaps my character has an issue with ignorant idiots who continue to spew idiocy even after being shown that they're wrong
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As stated before, anyone that disagrees with you is an idiot.
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that's quite a statement to make about me, and it's dishonest at best
i don't think anyone that disagrees with me about anything is an idiot; just because i think you're an idiot and i also disagree with you on many things does not mean i think anyone that disagrees with me about anything is an idiot
what an irrational conclusion you've arrived at derfie
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | i don't recall you ever encouraging people to question you
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Its because you dont read my post contents.
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you know what? i did, but now i wish i hadn't
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | interesting point, however, because you ignored most everything that didn't agree with your position
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funny you did the same.
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that's quite untrue ![Wink](images/smiley_icons/icon_wink.gif)
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | perhaps you think moderators should be more like yourself; that's how you end up with a dictatorship
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I do?
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i don't know; do you?
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | you've done nothing to prove otherwise in all the time i've known of you either
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my interactions with you are done on a basic as possible basis because I know your not one to actually read anything or even note anything that shows your wrong. Why argue with a stone wall? I never interacted with you outside of the public forum. I have been with the forums for many years, the public forums is not where all my conversations take place...
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this is a bit of projection on your part (i'm sure you've taken a psych class at some point)
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | however, this is an accusation that you cannot back up
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of course
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fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | i hope you have the decency to retract your baseless statement; it's essentially a lie
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how?
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by admit you were wrong in making it in the first place
admitting when you're wrong is not something i can see you doing easily
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | i don't expect that of you though derfie ![Razz](images/smiley_icons/icon_razz.gif)
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shows more about your character. derfie.
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i dislike ignorant people
you've made an ass of yourself on numerous occasions; instead of simply calling you fredcow, i now call you derfcow
if you were, say, kims or some other regular that wasn't an annoying idiot or known cheater i likely wouldn't give you a nickname like that
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | perhaps you can show an example of this; i don't believe it actually happened
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Of course Im down to waste my time.
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you like to make grand statements, but you're not good at backing them up in any way
you've made several statements about me that you can in no way prove, but rather than retract them i'm sure you'll cling to them dearly as if they were fact
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | you said it all right there
"Why did you even tell me this? I dont care"
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If I said it all why did you respond to it?
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i'm setting the record straight for anyone that cares to read into this
all they have to do is see what i'm saying, which is that you say many things that you can in no way back up
you "just write baseless dumb shit" as someone else put it
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | you needn't say more; you've made it quite clear that you don't much care about anything that doesn't agree with you in the first place
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No, Iv made it quite clear I dont care about you. Your taking yourself and applying it to everyone else. facepalm.
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so what you're saying is that, because you don't care about me, that you ignore what i say even when it's right and shows that you're wrong
i think the reason you grew to dislike me in the first place though was a result of me growing frustrated at how thick-headed and ignorant you are
whatever you say derfie
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | since the Jelly mod staff doesn't agree with your claim of innocence you don't care about them (even though they're right) [/color]
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would you?
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why wouldn't i? if i cheated and got banned i wouldn't just not care what they had to say because it disagreed with my own claim of innocence
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | absolutely not; where is this baseless accusation coming from? you have a habit of spouting nonsensical garbage that cannot be supported in any manner
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wheres the garbage disposal?
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clever comments to dodge the fact that you spew more bullshit than a bovine
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | in the past i have agreed with you on various issues, though i doubt you remember
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sure, I know you didnt used to be entirely unreasonable.
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interesting; so anyone that doesn't agree with you is entirely unreasonable?
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | you can think all you want that i'm a closed-minded, biased individual
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why even write that then?
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i'm demonstrating that i'm not, to anyone that cares to read into your case
you're making false statements trying to defame me, but it's just more derfcowshit
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | i know you will anyways, but i would like if you could prove such a thing
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let me waste my time.
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derfcowshit
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | i'd like to say we both know you can't, but at this point i'm wondering what reality you actually exist in[/color]
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do you really?
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i'm curious as to what a world would look like in which fredcow9 was always right
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | not seeing it
please, do tell [/color]
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try some glasses then.
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lolderfcowshit
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | LOL
jesus christ dude, it was an example
not sure if trolling or just an idiot
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thats what I was thinking when I read it tbh.
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the fact that i've proven you wrong multiple times and you have yet to prove me wrong even once about anything gives you the impression that i'm simply trolling you? ok derfie
"i know you are, but what am i?"
you've tried that several times in this topic, by the way
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | i never claimed you are mentally ill; i said i wouldn't be the least bit surprised if you actually were
i said i think it would be for the greater good of mankind if you don't reproduce; that's my opinion based off of everything i know of you thus far
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Thats pretty fucked up.
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it's not the nicest thing to say to a person, but hey - i'm at least being honest with you
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | from what i can tell you're an extremely ignorant, thick-headed individual; i shouldn't have to go back and gather evidence of situations where you did a good job of making yourself look this way
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Do you think I would present myself to you in any other way?
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it's not just me that sees this derfie
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | you should be able to use this very situation as a good example, rather than trying so hard to maintain your false innocence [/color]
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theres no innocence to argue about, because I am innocent.
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that's funny; you had the same stance when accused of cheating on both n00bstories and st0rm
and as it turned out you were cheating on both of those servers
pardon me for not believing you now, especially when there's evidence showing otherwise
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | of course not; where did i say such a thing?
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I dont think you read your own words
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dodge cuz more derfcowshit
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | there were some times where you tried to back something up, but your reasoning made no sense and was refuted by others' logic or reasoning
that didn't seem to matter to you though, because you likely dismissed it or filtered it out because it differed from your own opinion
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Like your doing right now.
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what, i'm supposed to take you at your word when you're a known cheater and past liar on several occasions? fuck you, that's ridiculous ![Laughing](images/smiley_icons/icon_lol.gif)
the difference is i examined your opinion and your story and judged it by logic and reason; what you said was countered numerous times by different people, and you still cite it as truth even after being proven wrong
textbook derfcow
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | if you really are mentally ill, i'm sorry for giving you such a hard time
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thats in line with your character.
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yes; i'm not one to blame others for things they cannot help
i don't think that's the case with you, though
if it were i would likely feel terrible
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | the person that i spoke to isn't even someone i know well; he's a former player and played in Ren-Archive
he posted occasionally and knows some people that i do actually know
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and that person and the text you speak of will remain anonymous.
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i'll ask him next time i talk to him if he minds me telling you who he is, if you care to know
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | this person, at random, had come to the same conclusion about you that i have
are you surprised?[/color]
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No, if people dont hate on you then your probably too busy sucking everyones dick to notice how much of a spinless noob you are.
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i suppose you mean spineless
i'm a spineless noob? i'm neither spineless nor a noob, but you're welcome to think that
why do you think everyone would hate on me if they weren't too busy sucking each other's dicks? because i'm not courteous to you? i don't see a reason i should be, especially at this point
if you feel i'm a dick to you that's ok with me; i don't feel it's unwarranted
perhaps you're a bit oblivious, but i don't talk to everyone the way i do to you
i respect almost all people derfie
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | when i'm wrong about something i have no problem admitting to it
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according to yourself.
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what are you trying to say, that i don't admit when i'm wrong? feel free to show when that's ever happened
you're welcome to think whatever you want to think, but if you can in no way, shape, or form back it up you shouldn't expect anyone else to agree with you
in this case it's unsurprisingly more derfcowshit
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | you're nothing like me;
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woah where did I claim something that stupid?
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it was implied, in what you said
you described something far closer to me than you realize or will or can admit to yourself
i, however, am honest
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | you cheated and lied about it for years to dozens, if not hundreds, of people
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nah I told about 15 people. 3 immediately after in its progress.
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the rest of the st0rm and n00bstories communities numbered hundreds, if not thousands, of players
you lied to all of them in your posts on their forums
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | and that's about something as silly as using cheats in a computer game; you couldn't even be honest about that
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You take this all too seriously. the cheats were used for fun, something it seems you cant have.
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because i don't think cheating to piss people off is fun means fun is something i can't have? nice logic there derfcow
where do you come up with this shit lol
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | the player did not cheat; he put R-G-H in the corner of the screenshot as a joke
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who knows if thats even the truth
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i told him the specific numbers to put after the letters
and that's what he did
just sayin
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | no one realized it had been a faked screenshot
why would i allow anyone to cheat? that's just silly[/color]
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Well now im uber skeptical of that.
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you're skeptical of the fact that i wouldn't allow anyone to cheat because you mistakenly believed i did? if you say so derfcow
i have morals, something it seems you have a clearly different idea of
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | i doubt that, but ok
and whether you run cheats now or not is beyond me; you were banned for having and using them at the time that you were banned
and now that you've admitted to using *cheat name removed*in communities that have neighbored Jelly you probably aren't very welcome
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I didnt want to be welcome there, st0rm is a joke and noobstories became a huge joke. jelly is turning into one of those fad jokes on the verge of becoming the joke.
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why, because its moderators banned you for using cheat files and kicked you for team hampering in the past? or do you have any other reasoning behind it
that same logic is like saying "I went into a restaurant and took a big shit on the floor because I don't care about it and didn't want to be welcome there"
i'd say you're a douchebag, and it would be fully supported
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | by not playing because you're banned for cheating? ![Surprised](images/smiley_icons/icon_surprised.gif)
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oh the naiveness of some people.
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i thought you said you don't play in Jelly servers, Marathon being one of them
what is it derfcow; you play and don't play at the same time?
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | the coke was in the trunk; you can't rewrite history, no matter how many times you try
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the baby powder was in the trunk, some officers apologized but the chiefs of police stood their ground because the mayor would have a fit.
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they mayor wouldn't stand for it if it were wrong
that's the difference
how would the mayor know this if there were nothing to prove it?
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | you likely would have been banned from Jelly a long time ago
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Iv been banned 2 times before. Jelly himself was logical enough to let me back in after an allotted amount of time. again you dont know as much as you think you do
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i bet Jelly himself wishes he hadn't, after hearing you cheated in neighboring servers and lied about it for years
and what were you banned for those past two times?
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | what makes you think i'm supposed to be involved in anything? this is another pointed statement with no actual basis
i hope you can back it up in some way
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fredcowshit
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | because a handful of people knew about it does not mean that n00bstories or st0rm knew, which is what actually mattered
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It was just too funny seeing them squirm about it. If they had gotten the cheat right then sure. But they all didnt even think about the cheats I did use. STILL.
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fucking loser
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | your little one-line apology in the OP is almost a slap to the face of the people that had to spend their time dealing with your immaturity[/color]
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You think they dont deserve to know the truth so they can prevent maliciousness to their server in the future?
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have you told them the truth? you claim they don't know what cheats you used (as stated in the above quote)
if that's true then what point are you trying to make?
what i'm saying is i think you should more properly apologize to both of those communities for being a used tampon
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | are you just anyone? no, you're not
you were a longtime regular, and as such are expected to follow the rules more than just anyone
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Thats what I get for supporting a server over the years.
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i like to think someone that supports a server wouldn't use cheats on that server
you have a fucked up way of showing support
you, like anyone else, got banned for cheating after being found cheating
as i explained even an admin would have the same happen to them
admins also support the community, so i'm not sure what point you're trying to make
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | had you admitted to it like a man you'd likely be unbanned in time,
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no, scruffy made it extremely clear in his pms posts, and locking of topics/forum ban that there was no hope.
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was this before or after you didn't initially come clean in your ban topic?
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | but like a child you chose to deny it exactly like you did at n00bstories and st0rm when you were banned on their servers
you were a real prick about that too
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I was egged on to be a prick and see what I could get away with. Getting around their shit isnt hard anyway.
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the way you acted was disrespectful and uncalled for
especially since you were lying your ass off to them
that must have given you a huge boner
some people's kids
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | that's a half-admission, but not a full one
you're so very close!
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did you not read any of my posts previous to this one?
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yes, unfortunately
they still show that you maintain your innocence
some of your prior posts show obvious lies in your story
you failed to address posts by others when they called you out on it, however
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | the fact that you, a longtime regular and known player, decided to use cheats is in a way a betrayal
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stabbed in the back!
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more like being spat in the face of
had it been a player that wasn't known to be an annoying retard your ban likely wouldn't have been permanent
or stated as permanent
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | if the mod in question decided to give you a lifetime ban it wouldn't be unwarranted
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So I didnt have a chance or I did have a chance? what is it
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i think your best chance would have been to come clean right away
even now you're not doing that so i suppose that wasn't an option
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | were it my call though, it wouldn't be a lifetime ban
had you at least admitted to it in the first place
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I would have said whatever satisfied the people at the time, but I didnt even get that.
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idk; knowing your prior history with cheating on other servers (it wasn't proven at the time, since you hadn't publicly stated it) they might not have believed you
that, and your history of team hampering and douchebaggery point to the contrary
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | because someone on the internet was wrong!
i'm trying to set the record straight, but in your case the record is broken and i'm likely just wasting my time being reasonable and rational with you
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as am I
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reasonable and rational - if to you that means making up a bunch of statements you can't actually back up in the slightest
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | oh dear
the fact that they were in there is proof that you were using them; they are active there
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silly liquid, dont you know how to make them inactive? Or is your stance thats not possible?
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you'd have to get a Black-Intel person to clear you on that
i truly don't believe you, but i'm open to anyone trying to change my mind
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | it's like having a map in the data folder; it's active and on without having to be turned on
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that can be done too.
Quote: | this excuse is almost as bad as "Steam put R-G-H on my computer" or "MUDKIPS' cat did it" [/color]
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why are you constantly involving *cheat name removed*which has NEVER been on my computer ever.
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doubt that
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | i'll give you a cookie if you tell the truth!
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looks like youv owed me a cookie since post one.
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it looks like it? where? to me it looks like i don't owe you shit
you're welcome to try and change my mind, though
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | not all cheats are easy to detect
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They are actually easier than you think. I worked with jelly to help catch some of the cheats I used in noobstories and st0rm. surprising how little you guys know about these cheats.
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fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | you also could have been using them for years and just sucked so badly that no one noticed anything out of the ordinary
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no, not really
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it's possible
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | Lurker is a former mod, and he's a good guy
however, i really doubt that Lurker forum-banned you or was the deciding factor in you being forum-banned
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not hard to figure out
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you assume too much, something you told me i shouldn't do ![Wink](images/smiley_icons/icon_wink.gif)
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 | You know how serious people in this game take cheats, look at the way you regard cheats as only being for sick people who need help to be good at the game. Posting something on that forum like that if your storys true is extremely fishy. I believe you, im not that unreasonable but surely you see the baseless accusation I just made as ludicrous? thats what Im going through. Your guilty for allowing cheats in your server as much as I am guilty of cheating in your server.
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you originally said i'm a terrible admin, but the only thing you're trying to cite now is something i said afterwards
the worst that can be said of all that is i made a highly inappropriate joke
to answer my question: no, you have nothing
derfcowshit is quickly filling up the topic
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | dave2916 is skeptical
you have no proof whatsoever that Scruffy forum-banned you or his reasoning for it;
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here you go
Quote: | Yes remove him forever scruffy... Ban him from forums too
He still not sending a link of the skinpack.
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Quote: | It's already gotten hits on a few regular players... and with that.
Fredcow is permabanned, this topic is locked.
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liquid I know more about how you guys work than you may think. I know about the mod forums ect ect. their channels. maybe scruffy didnt make it happen but its hard to doubt given the 2 quotes above are the ONLY clues I have since I cant even log in to check any pms
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i don't doubt that Scruffy was the one that placed the forum ban
what makes you think he only did it because Lurker suggested it? Scruffy is unable to make his own decisions? if you say so
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | all you know is that you were forum-banned
Mike kicked you for destroying a mass? why are you surprised that that happened?
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he was th with the mass and was a half mod.
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making a mass is not team hampering
blowing a mass up is team hampering
glad i could clear that up for you
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | the "banned for two weeks for giving tanks away" doesn't sound familiar to me; was that an error with the bot not letting you back in, or was that the incident where you were teamkilling and xxxozxxxx talked to skeptical about it?
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This was when I supposedly gave 2 tanks away and as a result received 2 weeks in ban time. Maybe you actually arent as unreasonable as I thought and legitimately just dont know about the things Im saying.
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oh; this must have been the incident prior to the one with xxxozxxxx then
i vaguely remember that
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | i didn't allow a player to use R-G-H, and you misunderstood my post
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I got it.
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no, you didn't; you believed i allowed a player to cheat to make a joke
i did no such thing, and under no circumstances would i
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | so it's because people that dislike you and are biased against you became mods that you are banned now,
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skeptical banned me for 2 weeks. I had run in with him as a trial mod
scruffy didnt used to be an admin, he was just a mod and he never took much of a shine to me, Im banned by him.
rice back in the day cried up and down I needed to be banned to mods and got me banned.
I dont have this attitude towards bad modship for no reason. Its developed as a result of my treatment over all this time.
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being punished for doing wrong deeds is unfair treatment in your eyes? i'm sorry; i don't understand the logic behind this
are you suggesting that you're above punishment for wrongdoings?
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | can you show me one time where a player was banned simply because "the mods did not like them"?
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yea let me go through and read every single ban topic and figure that out.
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wait a minute; you've (what Spoony calls) moved the goalposts here
it went from "banning a player because they don't like them" to "keeping a cheater banned because they don't like them"
that would be relatively hard to prove; why aren't the players being kept banned because of the cheating? how can you prove otherwise?
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | if you try to cite your own case now then you're not only an idiot, you're also a liar[/color]
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lol why would I cite myself?
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because you have nothing else
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | i'm likely hoping for too much when i ask that you be honest instead of lying in this case
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liquid it goes like this. I have friends at jelly, some of them mods, ex mods, not mods. I tell them and trust some of them with information. You have never been in that group which is why you seem to have everything confused about things that happened in the past. This case right here, specifically is a I dont give a fuck case. Its the type of case where Im not going to lie but tell everything exactly as it is. you can believe that or you can simply not believe it. Its really as simple as that.
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what you say makes no sense, so why would i believe it? you've been proven wrong but still maintain that you are right
only one of us can be right here, and the evidence isn't pointing towards you
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | what's the worst that could happen? the mods would say No guess what we don't give a shit you're staying banned anyways
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I know how mods work and their attitudes. scruffy gave me the first warn I had btw, then gave me a second warn for posting too much after forgetting about that first warn (it had been a while) His quick decisive response of your banned forever and locking the topic immediately only showed there was no chance dude. I dont know where your getting this idea I could have "come clean" (though I came clean about everything in these past posts)
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you've continued to deny cheating
i don't believe that's the truth, and neither does he
there's no evidence to suggest that you are innocent
you're continuing to maintain your innocence, and your story doesn't add up
your initial post should have been an apology and an admission, but since it wasn't (and still is not) he chose to lock your topic
fredcow9 wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 16:42 |
Quote: | then you could ban evade or whatever made-up shit you said prior to this
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I just play in jelly here and there now, its not ban evading because Im not even rightfully banned with proof.
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textbook derfcow
feel free to prove how i'm a bad administrator, and anything else i asked you to provide evidence of
if you even can
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shaitan wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 17:29 | If you ever mapch mine, look for GTFOmyPC.txt.
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It's actually quite funny. This whole "New cheat detection thing" at Jelly. That we've been running at TmX since last year or the year before, I forget. ![Razz](images/smiley_icons/icon_razz.gif)
At least Blacky did one thing right.
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ehhh wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 04:35 | shame tmx is terrible though.
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how can they be terrible when they have pro mods like hoh mikey playing there??????
this thread is starting to get sadder than the atheists thread lol
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ehhh wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 06:04 | worse then that, literally wall to wall, just outside the gdi spawn in complex.
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well i was recording at 25 fps so it actually looked if its possible to hit that guy
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T0RN wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 07:05 |
Azazel wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 07:27 |
shaitan wrote on Fri, 27 April 2012 17:29 | If you ever mapch mine, look for GTFOmyPC.txt.
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It's actually quite funny. This whole "New cheat detection thing" at Jelly. That we've been running at TmX since last year or the year before, I forget. ![Razz](images/smiley_icons/icon_razz.gif)
At least Blacky did one thing right.
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I know Matrix had it for a long time, sorry we didn't want to just blurt it out what it was. Too late now.
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In Jello's defense(if I remember right) there wasn't a whole lot that'd work with that one. They had some issues getting it to work. Not all a/c's work with certain fds modifications.
They weren't lazy.
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