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| Azazel wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 08:12 |
| iRANian wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 06:31 |
i was? i was talking with azazel on irc for a few weeks before it happened lol, i read the topic about the masterb8tes guy
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Who the fuck are you?
I don't recall ever even speaking to you, other than when I was trolling people in Atomix and pming them about putting timed's on them and laughing.
@liquidv2: I'd quote you but I don't care that much. A American version of me? Worst insult you've came up with yet.
brb spitting on the American flag.
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it's the ma1kel guy from black cell, making his way to good renegade player status now that everyone has quit, also he is the new cheat supplier so he probably hooked u up LOL
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| Re: To all the servers out there [message #466651 is a reply to message #466636] |
Wed, 25 April 2012 11:32 |
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| fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 10:21 |
| liquidv2 wrote on Tue, 24 April 2012 18:18 |
for some reason you still think everyone is out to get you
i think you're a bit paranoid or delusional
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are you still this stupid?
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i don't get it; are you trying to say i'm stupid because what you're saying is stupid? your intelligence is simply baffling derfie
| fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 10:21 |
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here's the thing: mods don't care what names people play on
the fact that you were caught cheating on a name that differs from your main one is irrelevant; you were still cheating
using a cheat file is cheating; you had cheat files and were actively using them
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yep those screen shake emitter files were just all over the place in my gameplay...
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you're trying to be sarcastic, but what you say is true
the location of the files was proof that you were using them at that very moment when the moderator checked you
| fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 10:21 |
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why are you still lying about it? why are you claiming to have been wrongfully banned? don't you want moderators to ban cheaters? i thought that was one of the many roles of a moderator in the first place
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You want me to lie and say I cheated? how thick is your skull?
mods need to ban cheaters, but they need to get direct evidence instead of relying on a moot bot that really does nothing. Remember when said bot went around kicking everyone who wasnt cheating in the past? 
http://jelly-server.com/forums/index.php?/topic/15802-recent-bans/
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the bot glitching and banning people because of a serial issue actually has 100% nothing to do with how you got caught cheating and why you were banned
i'm not sure that you understand how much of a proven cheater you are, and the fact that even now you're still flat-out lying about it is probably the reason they chose to ban you from the forums
it's humorous that you're insinuating that i'm actually thick-skulled
on another level it's sad, because you might actually be mentally ill and not know the difference
| fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 10:21 |
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Jelly is much better off without you cheating there derfie
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cool story bro, jelly will be better off when you stop being an admin there and several other key people are removed of modship.
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i'm sad you think that
it would be neat if you could give a legitimate reason for it though
you're basically pissed off that i call you on all of the stupid things that you say and do, and for that reason you think i'm a terrible moderator who wields his power like some internet keyboard crusader
the problem is you're actually just too stupid to know what's going on, which is why i've had problems with you in the past
| fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 10:21 |
| liquidv2 wrote on Tue, 24 April 2012 18:20 |
Im such a stupid mother fucker lmao
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I agree
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you sure showed me who's boss derfcow
i think that, several months from now, you'll come out and say something like: Ha ha i was cheating but it's ok I don't care about Renegade anymore but I'm still ban evading
please don't have any children
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| Re: To all the servers out there [message #466658 is a reply to message #466651] |
Wed, 25 April 2012 14:50 |
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| liquidv2 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 11:32 |
| fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 10:21 |
| liquidv2 wrote on Tue, 24 April 2012 18:18 |
[color=skyblue]for some reason you still think everyone is out to get you
i think you're a bit paranoid or delusional
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are you still this stupid?
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i don't get it; are you trying to say i'm stupid because what you're saying is stupid? your intelligence is simply baffling derfie
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nah, just pointing out the nonsense your spewing away
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you're trying to be sarcastic, but what you say is true
the location of the files was proof that you were using them at that very moment when the moderator checked you
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right, too bad the files did nothing, which is why you can refer back to my sarcastic remark.
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the bot glitching and banning people because of a serial issue actually has 100% nothing to do with how you got caught cheating and why you were banned
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because of the bot, which has been shown to not work properly as proved by my earlier link, I wasnt observed cheating, I wasnt even complained about, this is 100% based off what your "new and improved" cheat detection system thought it was catching me with.
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i'm not sure that you understand how much of a proven cheater you are,
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cheater as in all I do is cheat? if you really think that then you must really have doubts about your systems inability to supposedly catch me the famed cheater in the past...
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and the fact that even now you're still flat-out lying about it is probably the reason they chose to ban you from the forums
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nope, just all the "trouble" aka not agreeing with the staff on just about every issue, my voicing of my opinion painted a negative view in a community thats expected to be uniform apparently. again check your polls and see just how many people actually post as to how many vote in them.
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it's humorous that you're insinuating that i'm actually thick-skulled
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glad your day was lightened.
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on another level it's sad, because you might actually be mentally ill and not know the difference
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Im not sure where your getting mentally ill from but whatever excuse works in your world go ahead and continue your line of thinking.
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i'm sad you think that
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Im highly skeptical of that, I used to think you were a great mod/admin and actually supported you on the forums, just when you started getting out of line things change.
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it would be neat if you could give a legitimate reason for it though
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sure, harder to prove without my forum ban but the constant harassing of myself and the fact you legitimately think im mentally ill are some of the clues to start you on your way.
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you're basically pissed off that i call you on all of the stupid things that you say and do,
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I encourage this actually, Im not so sure why you assume im even mad in the slightest at all.
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and for that reason you think i'm a terrible moderator who wields his power like some internet keyboard crusader
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no the problem is really this next quote
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the problem is you're actually just too stupid to know what's going on, which is why i've had problems with you in the past
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This is your constant attitude, you dont reason or think things through, you ignore all valid points ever made against you and the fact I didnt even get a chance to tell my side of my story in the ban topic I made reflects the jelly team has really conformed to your line of thinking which is if they pose a problem just get rid of them.
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you sure showed me who's boss derfcow
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as did you
you think too much without actually knowing anything. thats your main problem m8.
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several months from now, you'll come out and say something like: Ha ha i was cheating
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I could have done that in my op, but its not the truth so again why would I lie? Im banned for life under fedcow9, my serial Im sure and my isp, hash ect. oh how you underestimate me. 
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but it's ok I don't care about Renegade anymore but I'm still ban evading
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Iv never "cared" about ren in the fanatical way you do, and im not ban evading, just evading because your staff left me no choice. Im not going to not play rene just because the only populated server doesnt like me and has no other reason to keep me out.
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please don't have any children
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not a surprise of a comment, you really proved your own statement:
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it would be neat if you could give a legitimate reason for it though
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| Re: To all the servers out there [message #466661 is a reply to message #466486] |
Wed, 25 April 2012 15:08 |
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what about tracers
It's all part of the big illusion that we perpetuate on ourselves and in turn is perpetuated upon us. When we believe, we engage the illusion. When we stop believing we shatter the illusion and shatter ourselves in the process. Because we are, part of it.
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| Re: To all the servers out there [message #466665 is a reply to message #466636] |
Wed, 25 April 2012 15:24 |
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| fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 10:21 |
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here's the thing: mods don't care what names people play on
the fact that you were caught cheating on a name that differs from your main one is irrelevant; you were still cheating
using a cheat file is cheating; you had cheat files and were actively using them
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yep those screen shake emitter files were just all over the place in my gameplay...
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You are FUCKING STUPID.
If you had those files in the place that you did (which we have proof of) with the filenames that they had, then Renegade would have loaded them into memory. No ifs, ands, or buts about it (unless of course you were using that objects injector thing, but that's a whole other story). You seem to keep denying this, but that is in complete contrary to how Renegade works.
So yes, they definitely WERE affecting your gameplay and you definitely WERE cheating your balls off. Now please continue to cry about it.
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Instead of showing us that u aren't more inteligent than a Toast, maybe you should start becomming good in renegade 
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| Re: To all the servers out there [message #466668 is a reply to message #466663] |
Wed, 25 April 2012 15:55 |
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| T0RN wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 15:10 |
We allow all those plasma thiima bullet things. Those long ass lasers on guns is kinda gay though.
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i have to use them because for some reason my new GPU makes the bullets 99% transparent, i have to press my nose to the screen to be able to see them now
It's all part of the big illusion that we perpetuate on ourselves and in turn is perpetuated upon us. When we believe, we engage the illusion. When we stop believing we shatter the illusion and shatter ourselves in the process. Because we are, part of it.
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| Re: To all the servers out there [message #466669 is a reply to message #466660] |
Wed, 25 April 2012 16:05 |
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| T0RN wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 15:01 |
Those files were cheats. Why do you keep denying it.
EVERYONE knows Mandai was one of the biggest cheat makers in Ren before mr *cheat name removed*came along.
Also the emitters are cheats as well. Like I said, not a new policy, just better detection now. Sorry we try to find and stop cheats in our servers.
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(to the jelly people: hell yea I lied about how I obtained those files because I know that you motherfuckers are the most unreasonable group of mods out there nowadays, something as simple as the truth of them being old forgotten inactive files would never fly into the reasoning zone of anyone there. I used to tell the truth to jelly mods but I would advise everyone to not try to reason with them at all these days)
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old news, read my post in its entirety. If you read my post you would also understand that the only reason I protested and became suspicious of the bot ect is because of the immediateness of locking of topics, and hushing me away as fast as possible. I didnt even get to post more in my topic because I got a forum ban out of the blue.
| iRANian wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 14:59 |
what skin pack did you download and why would anyone give you a second chance when you've cheated in n00bstories and st0rm in the past
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I posted links of my old download sites in the forum, but a certain forum ban prevents me from retrieving this.
There never was an opportunity for a second chance, there was not even a chance in the first place actually. like I said, sporting the name fredcow9 was going to get me banned anyway.
Also why would I want a second chance when I just made my own?
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| Re: To all the servers out there [message #466674 is a reply to message #466658] |
Wed, 25 April 2012 21:19 |
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| fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 16:50 |
nah, just pointing out the nonsense your spewing away
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i'm not spewing out nonsense dearest derfcow; i'm merely telling you the truth, as i always have
for some reason the truth, as shown by the past, throws you into a fit of rage 
| fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 16:50 |
right, too bad the files did nothing, which is why you can refer back to my sarcastic remark.
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hmm, yes, yes
what we have here is the equivalent of someone posting a screenshot of them running R-G-H in the corner, and then claiming Well whatever I just downloaded it as a joke; it doesn't even work anyways
you had cheat files exactly where cheat files go, my dearest derfcow
why do you expect anyone to believe you weren't cheating when you've casually demonstrated in the past how comfortable you actually are with cheating?
| fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 16:50 |
because of the bot, which has been shown to not work properly as proved by my earlier link, I wasnt observed cheating, I wasnt even complained about, this is 100% based off what your "new and improved" cheat detection system thought it was catching me with.
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you seem to think the ban system was in some way responsible for how you were caught cheating
like i already said, and like you chose to ignore (not surprising, you fucking retard) is the plugin that caught you is a separate entity
there has been mistakes in the past of many kinds, but i can assure you derfie, this was no mistake
| fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 16:50 |
cheater as in all I do is cheat? if you really think that then you must really have doubts about your systems inability to supposedly catch me the famed cheater in the past...
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...what? where did you get that from lmao
the system was updated and the cheats you were using were detected
i have reason to believe you were using them for quite a long time (considering you have been using cheats for well over two years now) and that they had just gone unnoticed or unseen until now; you're clearly quite furious at the fact that you were caught using cheats in the one server you claim to have never cheated in
go on lying about it; everyone believes you
| fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 16:50 |
nope, just all the "trouble" aka not agreeing with the staff on just about every issue, my voicing of my opinion painted a negative view in a community thats expected to be uniform apparently. again check your polls and see just how many people actually post as to how many vote in them.
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that's the same for most gaming communities; do you honestly expect every member to join and be active on the forums? i'm not sure what point you're trying to make but i'm sure it made good sense in your head
Jelly has never expected to be uniform; for some reason you think everyone is out to get you, as i've said numerous times and will have to continue to repeat until you understand
there's nothing wrong with disagreeing with anything; the fact of the matter is you were completely unable to back up anything you said, and when faced with the truth continued to spout bullshit and lie about topics
if you ever encountered resistance for being a dishonest fuck then you shouldn't be so confused as to why
but, then again, you're derfcow and i almost expect that from you
| fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 16:50 |
Im not sure where your getting mentally ill from but whatever excuse works in your world go ahead and continue your line of thinking.
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idk if you realize this, but you're a very thick-headed individual
i'm actually quite open-minded, which is the opposite of what you are
you haven't changed much from the first day i saw you ingame
what you did there is thick-headed, and what you are doing now is thick-headed
do you understand? i don't think you do, and that's why i suggested that you might be mentally ill
| fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 16:50 |
sure, harder to prove without my forum ban but the constant harassing of myself and the fact you legitimately think im mentally ill are some of the clues to start you on your way.
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all i said is that it would make perfect sense to me if i found out you were mentally ill; it would explain much
are you saying that, because i say you're an idiot for saying idiotic things, that i'm a bad person? i'm merely being honest, or stating the obvious
what might have helped you long ago was if someone had had the heart to tell you when you were being an idiot, because you seem perplexed whenever it happens
| fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 16:50 |
I encourage this actually, Im not so sure why you assume im even mad in the slightest at all.
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you don't encourage people to question your statements or beliefs
and also, when they do you don't even read or understand it; it goes in one ear and out the other
| fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 16:50 |
This is your constant attitude, you dont reason or think things through, you ignore all valid points ever made against you and the fact I didnt even get a chance to tell my side of my story in the ban topic I made reflects the jelly team has really conformed to your line of thinking which is if they pose a problem just get rid of them.
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that has never been my line of thinking; i hope you can back up such an accusation 
i've had several people tell me that i'm an arrogant, cocky asshole that is unreasonable
in the end it always turned out to be the people i disliked for legitimate reasons; i'm sorry if the fact that i think you're an idiot shines through in my posts, but it's true
here's basically what happens: in your mind you have a valid point
i read and give everything a fair chance, i really do
but nothing you say makes it past that, because it's usually just plain wrong or delusional horse shit
all of the garbage you come up with on various issues gets filtered out, as it should
i honestly don't care if people disagree with me about anything; they have every right to
but when they can never back it up in any sensible or reasonable way then i don't much value their opinion
for example, your opinion could be that "stank rushes on city are not overpowered because GDI gets stanks too"
am i supposed to just agree with you because that's your opinion? no, i will not, and i may even call you an idiot for suggesting it
| fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 16:50 |
you think too much without actually knowing anything. thats your main problem m8.
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really? i do a good job backing everything that i say up, something you have never done and likely will never do
is that my problem? no; what you do is your own business
however, don't expect anyone to give you any credibility
did you ever stop to think that, perhaps the way you are, is the reason people dislike you? it's not that you disagree, though you quite clearly seem to think so
i almost think you have a problem with *gasp* being wrong about things
you can say the same about me but in all honesty i have no problem admitting when i'm wrong and telling people about it
in the past on Jelly a player named majid was getting cheat accusations and told me a plan he had to post a screenshot with R-G-H in the corner and pretend it was an accident
i said that, if he was going to do it, that he should post 3 screenshots, but only one with the R-G-H in the corner so it truly looked like an accident
a moderator saw it and instantly banned him, citing that it was full proof and that it couldn't possibly be anything else (i had not said anything, for it would have ruined his joke)
i hadn't the slightest idea that anyone would notice that quickly or actually take it that seriously, let alone act on it
in the end it wasn't a very mod-like move to allow such a thing to happen (though i still thought it was humorous that several players that had been riding majid for months made fools of themselves in the few hours before he could say it was a joke)
i did formally apologize for it, and accepted it and moved on
| fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 16:50 |
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several months from now, you'll come out and say something like: Ha ha i was cheating
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I could have done that in my op, but its not the truth so again why would I lie? Im banned for life under fedcow9, my serial Im sure and my isp, hash ect. oh how you underestimate me.
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the worst-case scenario is you'll evade and play again and still be terrible despite whatever cheats you choose to run
if you cause problems with in-game chat you'll likely get dealt with as would anyone else
Jelly Games doesn't discriminate
but let me clear this up again: you still maintain your innocence
ok, that's all you needed to say
come see me when you don't have to lie about what you've done and can accept it for what it is
it took you this long to come clean about cheating in other servers years ago so i don't expect anything anytime soon
| fredcow9 wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 16:50 |
Iv never "cared" about ren in the fanatical way you do, and im not ban evading, just evading because your staff left me no choice. Im not going to not play rene just because the only populated server doesnt like me and has no other reason to keep me out.
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the most populated server in Renegade dislikes you for cheating on it, which is why you were banned from it
i'm not sure if you realize that using cheat files is considered cheating (aka bighead, etc.), and that is why you were banned
i care about Renegade in a fanatical way? tell me, when is the last time i played Renegade derfcow
i enjoy the game, and i would like it to continue for as long as it can
i fail to see how that makes me a fanatic
again, you were banned for having cheat files in your game folder
you were using them as you played; you were cheating
i don't understand why you're denying it; there's no denying what you had
the fact that you continued to lie about it then (and choose to lie about it now) is likely why you were forum banned
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please don't have any children
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not a surprise of a comment, you really proved your own statement:
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it would be neat if you could give a legitimate reason for it though
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i think the world would be better off without people as thick-headed as yourself, and if you not having children could possibly contribute to this notion i think it could only be a good thing
i asked why you think i'm a terrible administrator; are you suggesting that this is so, because i seem to dislike you as an individual and am not courteous and polite to you? 
why you think certain moderators should be removed, namely ones that have had problems with you in the past (aka dave2916, who banned you for teamkilling and teamhampering based off the words of xxxozxxxx and the corresponding IRC logs proving it)
you seem to have a real problem with people that have a problem with you, but you're looking at it the wrong way: what you should be considering is that, perhaps, there's a one in a million chance that the fault is actually *gasp* your own
something to think about
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| Re: To all the servers out there [message #466691 is a reply to message #466638] |
Thu, 26 April 2012 06:43 |
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| Hitman wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 08:36 |
| Azazel wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 08:12 |
| iRANian wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 06:31 |
i was? i was talking with azazel on irc for a few weeks before it happened lol, i read the topic about the masterb8tes guy
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Who the fuck are you?
I don't recall ever even speaking to you, other than when I was trolling people in Atomix and pming them about putting timed's on them and laughing.
@liquidv2: I'd quote you but I don't care that much. A American version of me? Worst insult you've came up with yet.
brb spitting on the American flag.
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it's the ma1kel guy from black cell, making his way to good renegade player status now that everyone has quit, also he is the new cheat supplier so he probably hooked u up LOL
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I remember ma1kel, I'm sure we banned him in tmx for bh AGES ago.
I'll try and retrieve the logs for lulz. Never spoke to him though, still a nobody to me.
Head admin at TmX (The Matrix Sniper server)
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The Matrix Sniper: 188.138.84.134:4576
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| Re: To all the servers out there [message #466694 is a reply to message #466691] |
Thu, 26 April 2012 07:18 |
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| Azazel wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 07:43 |
| Hitman wrote on Wed, 25 April 2012 08:36 |
it's the ma1kel guy from black cell, making his way to good renegade player status now that everyone has quit, also he is the new cheat supplier so he probably hooked u up LOL
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I remember ma1kel, I'm sure we banned him in tmx for bh AGES ago.
I'll try and retrieve the logs for lulz. Never spoke to him though, still a nobody to me.
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http://jelly-server.com/forums/index.php?/topic/18988-banned-forever-ago/page__v iew__findpost__p__267278
What he does is makes server side plugins for people, and they tend to look the other way when he pulls shit like that. What's absurd is that BH in that topic is the one I(DJEYEK found it) gave him, for trying to make an anti-cheat for it.
It is funny he sucked ass at sniping before he started coding plugins, now he's "pro". He "lags" like a bitch with 4.0 running, every movement he makes is that way.
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I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
deliver on, or forum trolls who contribute nothing except to bloat the fragile egos of the same
rejects I despise.
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| Re: To all the servers out there [message #466707 is a reply to message #466674] |
Thu, 26 April 2012 11:53 |
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i'm not spewing out nonsense dearest derfcow; i'm merely telling you the truth, as i always have
for some reason the truth, as shown by the past, throws you into a fit of rage
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hmm, yes, yes
what we have here is the equivalent of someone posting a screenshot
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no one observed me doing anything illegal.
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of them running R-G-H in the corner, and then claiming Well whatever I just downloaded it as a joke; it doesn't even work anyways
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A direct picture showing someone using *cheat name removed*is less failable.
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you had cheat files exactly where cheat files go, my dearest derfcow
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again whatever makes you feel better.
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why do you expect anyone to believe you weren't cheating when you've casually demonstrated in the past how comfortable you actually are with cheating?
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you just dont read things, In my op on the jelly forums I said I didnt expect anyone to believe me and fully expected a ban anyway. I dont know why I bother.
Iv never found anything wrong with cheating in casual non important servers. eg the build servers/noobstories ect. Jelly was the server I never cheated on and I still wont even in the future.
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you seem to think the ban system was in some way responsible for how you were caught cheating
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How else was I "caught" lmao
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like i already said, and like you chose to ignore (not surprising, you fucking retard)
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another moot point, but go ahead and rage some more.
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is the plugin that caught you is a separate entity
there has been mistakes in the past of many kinds, but i can assure you derfie, this was no mistake
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the broken record continues...
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[color=skyblue]...what? where did you get that from lmao
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here
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i'm not sure that you understand how much of a proven cheater you are,
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the system was updated and the cheats you were using were detected
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nice update, was it called lockbox?
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i have reason to believe you were using them for quite a long time
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Oh please entertain me here!
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(considering you have been using cheats for well over two years now)
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You dont spectate my computer, the times I cheated were less than I can count on both hands. Thats including storm noobstories ect. I dont know what gives you this thinking of your knowing everything but you really dont..
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and that they had just gone unnoticed or unseen until now;
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smh,
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...what? where did you get that from lmao
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you're clearly quite furious at the fact that you were caught using cheats in the one server you claim to have never cheated in
go on lying about it; everyone believes you
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actually no one believes me, and why do you think im furious? Do you really think this whole thing has changed anything except the name I play under?
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that's the same for most gaming communities; do you honestly expect every member to join and be active on the forums? i'm not sure what point you're trying to make but i'm sure it made good sense in your head
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its clearly beyond you.
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Jelly has never expected to be uniform;
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until of course someone disagrees with you.
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for some reason you think everyone is out to get you,
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No not everyone, just a select few who happen to have the power to keep me out. The majority of ppl Im m8s with are ingame, some on the forums, used to be mods but no real admins/mods as they have changed.
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as i've said numerous times and will have to continue to repeat until you understand
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I dont understand anything remember?
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there's nothing wrong with disagreeing with anything; the fact of the matter is you were completely unable to back up anything you said, and when faced with the truth continued to spout bullshit and lie about topics
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How can I back something I said when Im banned from the forum to post anything in the first place? When my topic is locked within minutes of me posting it? Why do you ignore these facts?
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if you ever encountered resistance for being a dishonest fuck then you shouldn't be so confused as to why
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but, then again, you're derfcow and i almost expect that from you
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More maturity, your quite the face for jelly.
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you're*
idk if you realize this, but you're a very thick-headed individual
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How thick?
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i'm actually quite open-minded, which is the opposite of what you are
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Right, your open minded, ask anyone in the world I doubt they will respond with IM pretty closed minded actually...
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you haven't changed much from the first day i saw you ingame
what you did there is thick-headed, and what you are doing now is thick-headed
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of course it is.
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do you understand? i don't think you do, and that's why i suggested that you might be mentally ill
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right, continue face of jelly games. And you tried to make yourself to be a fair person.
You actually suggested I dont have children, I dont see what type of open minded fair logical person would ever attack a person in such a way. Especially over a video game.
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all i said is that it would make perfect sense to me if i found out you were mentally ill; it would explain much
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what were the signs and symptoms aligned with direct quotes from myself that gave away a certain mental ailment? which ailment specifically?
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are you saying that, because i say you're an idiot for saying idiotic things, that i'm a bad person? i'm merely being honest, or stating the obvious
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Im saying that you calling me an idiot at all is your own opinion. The extent to which you go to call me an idiot just shows alot about your character.
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what might have helped you long ago was if someone had had the heart to tell you when you were being an idiot, because you seem perplexed whenever it happens
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still continuing with the idiot rage?
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you don't encourage people to question your statements or beliefs
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Where did I not encourage such?
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and also, when they do you don't even read or understand it; it goes in one ear and out the other
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Not a surprising response from someone who thinks im a mentally ill idiot who shouldnt have children.
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that has never been my line of thinking; i hope you can back up such an accusation
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of course it hasnt.
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i've had several people tell me that i'm an arrogant, cocky asshole that is unreasonable
in the end it always turned out to be the people i disliked for legitimate reasons; i'm sorry if the fact that i think you're an idiot shines through in my posts, but it's true
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No you just go out of your way instead of making a legitimate point youd rather defame someones character. You have really proved this the more you continue to respond naturally.
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here's basically what happens: in your mind you have a valid point
i read and give everything a fair chance, i really do
but nothing you say makes it past that, because it's usually just plain wrong or delusional horse shit
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Why did you even tell me this? I dont care about your fake "fair chance"
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all of the garbage you come up with on various issues gets filtered out, as it should
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So you are admitting to having a previous bias to everything I say.
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i honestly don't care if people disagree with me about anything; they have every right to
but when they can never back it up in any sensible or reasonable way then i don't much value their opinion
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Seems quite contrary to everything youv said so far.
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for example, your opinion could be that "stank rushes on city are not overpowered because GDI gets stanks too"
am i supposed to just agree with you because that's your opinion? no, i will not, and i may even call you an idiot for suggesting it
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gdi cant get stanks too so I really dont get what your getting at here.
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really? i do a good job backing everything that i say up,
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You claimed Im mentally ill, shouldnt have children and am a complete idiot, surely youll be able to make a decent evident argument to this since you back everything up so well.
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something you have never done and likely will never do
is that my problem? no; what you do is your own business
however, don't expect anyone to give you any credibility
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You may start to notice that its just you here. If I wasnt form banned I could go through many polls topics ect where others thought I was correct I provided evidence ect. Do you really think I NEVER in the history of my existence backed anything up?
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did you ever stop to think that, perhaps the way you are, is the reason people dislike you?
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You mean your social group on jelly?
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it's not that you disagree, though you quite clearly seem to think so
i almost think you have a problem with *gasp* being wrong about things
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The same can be said for you.
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you can say the same about me but in all honesty i have no problem admitting when i'm wrong and telling people about it
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Of course youll say that now.
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in the past on Jelly a player named majid was getting cheat accusations and told me a plan he had to post a screenshot with R-G-H in the corner and pretend it was an accident
i said that, if he was going to do it, that he should post 3 screenshots, but only one with the R-G-H in the corner so it truly looked like an accident
a moderator saw it and instantly banned him, citing that it was full proof and that it couldn't possibly be anything else (i had not said anything, for it would have ruined his joke)
i hadn't the slightest idea that anyone would notice that quickly or actually take it that seriously, let alone act on it
in the end it wasn't a very mod-like move to allow such a thing to happen (though i still thought it was humorous that several players that had been riding majid for months made fools of themselves in the few hours before he could say it was a joke)
i did formally apologize for it, and accepted it and moved on
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Thats fucked up. You let someone cheat as a joke, yet I havent even been caught cheating and Im banned. Its this hypocrisy that really shows your true colors.
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the worst-case scenario is you'll evade and play again and still be terrible despite whatever cheats you choose to run
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Im not so sure what my gameplay skill levels have to do with cheating. If you think people cheat because they are trying to make up for a lack of skill in a game then your looking at cheating completely wrong.
Assume your worst case scenario is in play btw. I dont run cheats.
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if you cause problems with in-game chat you'll likely get dealt with as would anyone else
Jelly Games doesn't discriminate
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I know how to not be found.
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but let me clear this up again: you still maintain your innocence
ok, that's all you needed to say
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excellent
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come see me when you don't have to lie about what you've done and can accept it for what it is
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You mean come see me when you take my side and accept the cheats you werent using.
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it took you this long to come clean about cheating in other servers years ago so i don't expect anything anytime soon
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I came clean about the cheats to many people the moment I did it. Just because you werent one of them doesnt mean anything. You think your supposed to be involved in alot of things but frankly your really not. This is old news, I just publicly released the info for shits and gigs.
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the most populated server in Renegade dislikes you for cheating on it, which is why you were banned from it
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For life? Hm so your telling me anyone who is caught using any cheats on jelly is now banned for life?
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i'm not sure if you realize that using cheat files is considered cheating (aka bighead, etc.)and that is why you were banned
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Which for the last time and I wont address this again, I was ok with because said files existed in my folder at the time and so I was ready to accept punishment and own up to having cheat sounding files in my folder. However first response to my ban topic was life ban. You can figure out the rest.
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i care about Renegade in a fanatical way? tell me, when is the last time i played Renegade derfcow
i enjoy the game, and i would like it to continue for as long as it can
i fail to see how that makes me a fanatic
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You seem to get quite worked up over it. Your still replying to my posts for some reason.
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again, you were banned for having cheat files in your game folder
you were using them as you played;
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Your staff proved I had files in my folder, no one proved I was using them. This is also the last time Im addressing this because Its annoying. I didnt use any files, none were active and no one can prove I used anything actively because there inst the tineyest shred of proof for it. When someone shows me evidence of my actively using the cheats at the time of this ban or EVER in my history of playing at jelly then ill be as shocked as having the ability to fly.
nope
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i don't understand why you're denying it; there's no denying what you had
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Theres no proving what I had, what did I do in game that was fishy/showed I used cheats. All you have are names from a bot.
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the fact that you continued to lie about it then (and choose to lie about it now) is likely why you were forum banned
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Glad to hear an explanation. Though it looks like non mods have more power than the mods there as lurker suggested it and then it happened.
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i think the world would be better off without people as thick-headed as yourself, and if you not having children could possibly contribute to this notion i think it could only be a good thing
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You off your soapbox yet?
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i asked why you think i'm a terrible administrator; are you suggesting that this is so, because i seem to dislike you as an individual and am not courteous and polite to you?
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Id have to say letting someone run *cheat name removed*and then withholding information seems proof enough right there. If youv done this who knows what else youv done but wont tell anyone about because it might fuck you in the ass?
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why you think certain moderators should be removed, namely ones that have had problems with you in the past (aka dave2916, who banned you for teamkilling and teamhampering based off the words of xxxozxxxx and the corresponding IRC logs proving it)
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Mike needed to be removed as when he was a trial mod he kicked me for destroying a humvee mass he was busy th'ing with.
skeptical is new to the modship and kicked me for 2 weeks for supposedly giving tanks away.
scruffy just form banned me because a non moderator told him to.
You allowed someone to use *cheat name removed*post a ss, get them in a heat of trouble and didnt say a damn thing.
Of course I cant remember years of poor modship incidents specifically so it would be pointless for me to describe them.
I dont even know who dave29516 is...
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you seem to have a real problem with people that have a problem with you, but you're looking at it the wrong way: what you should be considering is that, perhaps, there's a one in a million chance that the fault is actually *gasp* your own
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I can only think of a handful of people that actually have a problem with me. Its the possession of power they have gained since I started at jelly that has gotten me where I am.
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something to think about
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Thanks dr phil
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| liquidv2 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 10:49 |
shai, is that the topic where Iran directed some guy to bighead and then the guy got banned? to be clear on that one, the guy actually went to Iran in the first place asking for cheats so he could kill players he thought were cheating[/color]
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You can be as "clear" as you want to be. It doesn't take away from the fact he's known for doing that type of stuff.
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I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
deliver on, or forum trolls who contribute nothing except to bloat the fragile egos of the same
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(&JellyMarathon) [CHEAT] therefhop has file w_ionb_closed.w3d
(&JellyMarathon) [CHEAT] therefhop has file nukeemitter.w3d
(&JellyMarathon) [CHEAT] therefhop has file ionemitter.w3d
(&JellyMarathon) [CHEAT] therefhop has file MandaiNoScreenShake.ddb
Alright, there you go - now explain to me how you were not cheating?
P.S. this particular plugin can only detect files in your \data, which ironically, is where all of these cheats must be placed in order for them to work. So kindly explain to me how these cheats were not loaded (literally, explain to me how you managed to get these files to be in your \data folder but NOT load them into Renegade).
| -TLS-DJ-EYE-K wrote on Mon, 18 March 2013 07:29 |
Instead of showing us that u aren't more inteligent than a Toast, maybe you should start becomming good in renegade
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| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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hmm, yes, yes
what we have here is the equivalent of someone posting a screenshot
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no one observed me doing anything illegal.
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your car was searched and a bunch of cocaine was found in the trunk
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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you had cheat files exactly where cheat files go, my dearest derfcow
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again whatever makes you feel better.
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i don't need to feel better; all this did was prove your title further
i'm fine; you're obviously not because you chose to use cheats
it would have helped had you come clean about it; you're in denial and i don't expect you to anytime soon, since it took you literally years to admit to using R-G-H in n00bstories and st0rm (not like we didn't already know that)
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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why do you expect anyone to believe you weren't cheating when you've casually demonstrated in the past how comfortable you actually are with cheating?
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you just dont read things, In my op on the jelly forums I said I didnt expect anyone to believe me and fully expected a ban anyway. I dont know why I bother.
Iv never found anything wrong with cheating in casual non important servers. eg the build servers/noobstories ect. Jelly was the server I never cheated on and I still wont even in the future.
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using the files you were is considered cheating; they are cheat files
n00bstories does not differ much from Jelly Marathon, and we in no way appreciate you claiming to be a Jelly player in any sense of the word
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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you seem to think the ban system was in some way responsible for how you were caught cheating
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How else was I "caught" lmao
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certainly not by the same process that covers serial bans
as i so clearly stated numerous times already
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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is the plugin that caught you is a separate entity
there has been mistakes in the past of many kinds, but i can assure you derfie, this was no mistake
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the broken record continues...
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i'm a fixed record, working properly
it is actually you that is broken
if i didn't know any better i'd say you're just a successful troll
i have no problem correcting you though
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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i'm not sure that you understand how much of a proven cheater you are,
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the system was updated and the cheats you were using were detected
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nice update, was it called lockbox?
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i believe you were forum-banned due to the PM convos that you had with moderators; there was likely no need to allow you to continue posting when you were clearly going to continue lying about it
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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i have reason to believe you were using them for quite a long time
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Oh please entertain me here!
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well derfie, it goes like this
if i didn't know any better i'd give you the benefit of the doubt, but that's not the case here
since i know you've cheated for years in other servers and just recently got caught using cheats on Jelly Marathon why should i believe you haven't been using cheats on Jelly Marathon for months?
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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(considering you have been using cheats for well over two years now)
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You dont spectate my computer, the times I cheated were less than I can count on both hands. Thats including storm noobstories ect. I dont know what gives you this thinking of your knowing everything but you really dont..
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i never claimed to know everything, and i don't honestly think i know everything
if i thought i knew everything i would likely try to use my knowledge to win in casinos!
the first incident with st0rm was literally years ago; are you trying to dispute my statement of "considering you have been using cheats for well over two years now"? you used R-G-H at least several times in the past few years; do you deny this truth?
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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and that they had just gone unnoticed or unseen until now;
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smh,
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you should quit shaking your head and try to be honest here
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
actually no one believes me, and why do you think im furious? Do you really think this whole thing has changed anything except the name I play under?
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i don't actually believe you still play
though, if you did, you'd likely go unnoticed unless you started using aimbot or something like you did in n00bstories and st0rm
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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that's the same for most gaming communities; do you honestly expect every member to join and be active on the forums? i'm not sure what point you're trying to make but i'm sure it made good sense in your head
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its clearly beyond you.
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i'm going to assume you're spouting nonsense since you can't back it up in any way, shape, or form
if you're going to venture an opinion out there on a matter you should at least be able to back it up
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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Jelly has never expected to be uniform;
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until of course someone disagrees with you.
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that's a lie, and i already covered it in my previous post
i have no problem with people disagreeing with me, but i hope they have a reason for it
there have been many occasions where people with differing opinions changed my mind on them because their reasoning made far more sense than my own
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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for some reason you think everyone is out to get you,
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No not everyone, just a select few who happen to have the power to keep me out. The majority of ppl Im m8s with are ingame, some on the forums, used to be mods but no real admins/mods as they have changed.
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you're more than welcome to think that this is just a conspiracy theory to get rid of you because you're an outspoken individual that challenges the mod staff on issues because everyone else is just too afraid to speak up
you're quite a mighty hero there derfcow; i hope someone writes an epic poem about you someday
that, or you were banned for cheating and are trying entirely way too hard to deny it
you would never have been banned had you not been cheating; had it been someone else on that name they would have been banned too because - guess what - they were cheating
had it been me i would have been banned and demodded / likely banned from everything Jelly-related
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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as i've said numerous times and will have to continue to repeat until you understand
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I dont understand anything remember?
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it's certainly starting to seem that way
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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there's nothing wrong with disagreeing with anything; the fact of the matter is you were completely unable to back up anything you said, and when faced with the truth continued to spout bullshit and lie about topics
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How can I back something I said when Im banned from the forum to post anything in the first place? When my topic is locked within minutes of me posting it? Why do you ignore these facts?
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like i mentioned above, your case was discussed with moderators via PM
they allowed you the chance to come clean, but since you opted to lie instead they decided to lock the topic
the piece of my post that you quoted is referring to your years of being on the Jelly forums, for the record
i'm sure it doesn't help your case that people know how thick-headed and unreasonable you are; were you just a random player they would likely be more lenient, but since you're a long-time regular and expected to know better you were probably not given any leniency
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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if you ever encountered resistance for being a dishonest fuck then you shouldn't be so confused as to why
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that's the thing; i don't think you actually realize it when it happens
that explains why you're still denying this to the grave
some people can't help but lie; they can be caught red-handed shoplifting by a police officer and on video camera and still they lie about it
i'm beginning to think you just may be one of those people
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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but, then again, you're derfcow and i almost expect that from you
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More maturity, your quite the face for jelly.
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i'm speaking to you as a person, not a moderator
you can hold that against me if you'd like, but no one ever said i have to be courteous to you
especially not after you've cheated and lied about it in a server i've moderated on and been a part of for years
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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idk if you realize this, but you're a very thick-headed individual
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How thick?
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i don't know derfie; is there a way to measure thick-headedness?
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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i'm actually quite open-minded, which is the opposite of what you are
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Right, your open minded, ask anyone in the world I doubt they will respond with IM pretty closed minded actually...
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you can ask anyone that's observed you on the Jelly forums and knows what of you that i know; i'm sure you'll get a similar response
i spoke on Mumble to a former ren player last night and was going to mention you cheating and getting banned; i said "Remember fredcow?" he said "The annoying retarded guy?" i didn't have to say anything; he came up with that all on his own
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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do you understand? i don't think you do, and that's why i suggested that you might be mentally ill
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right, continue face of jelly games. And you tried to make yourself to be a fair person.
You actually suggested I dont have children, I dont see what type of open minded fair logical person would ever attack a person in such a way. Especially over a video game.
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it's just my observation, as un-biased as i can make it
i'm being completely honest with you
the way you're acting after having cheated in a video game is why i said what i said, if you're wondering
it has nothing to do with cheating in a video game, though i'm sure a correlation could be made somewhere
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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[color=skyblue]all i said is that it would make perfect sense to me if i found out you were mentally ill; it would explain much
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what were the signs and symptoms aligned with direct quotes from myself that gave away a certain mental ailment? which ailment specifically?
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i'm no psychiatrist derfie, and i'm not sure what mental ailment would most fit your description
i don't have to quote anything; look at what's happening with this entire situation
just put huge quote tags around it
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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are you saying that, because i say you're an idiot for saying idiotic things, that i'm a bad person? i'm merely being honest, or stating the obvious
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Im saying that you calling me an idiot at all is your own opinion. The extent to which you go to call me an idiot just shows alot about your character.
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perhaps my character has an issue with ignorant idiots who continue to spew idiocy even after being shown that they're wrong
in your case though, i'm accepting that you can't help it and that i should try to be nicer to you
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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you don't encourage people to question your statements or beliefs
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Where did I not encourage such?
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i don't recall you ever encouraging people to question you
interesting point, however, because you ignored most everything that didn't agree with your position
perhaps you think moderators should be more like yourself; that's how you end up with a dictatorship 
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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and also, when they do you don't even read or understand it; it goes in one ear and out the other
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Not a surprising response from someone who thinks im a mentally ill idiot who shouldnt have children.
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no, it's certainly not
you've done nothing to prove otherwise in all the time i've known of you either
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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that has never been my line of thinking; i hope you can back up such an accusation
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of course it hasnt.
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i detect a hint of sarcasm!
however, this is an accusation that you cannot back up
i hope you have the decency to retract your baseless statement; it's essentially a lie
i don't expect that of you though derfie 
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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i've had several people tell me that i'm an arrogant, cocky asshole that is unreasonable
in the end it always turned out to be the people i disliked for legitimate reasons; i'm sorry if the fact that i think you're an idiot shines through in my posts, but it's true
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No you just go out of your way instead of making a legitimate point youd rather defame someones character. You have really proved this the more you continue to respond naturally.
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perhaps you can show an example of this; i don't believe it actually happened
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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here's basically what happens: in your mind you have a valid point
i read and give everything a fair chance, i really do
but nothing you say makes it past that, because it's usually just plain wrong or delusional horse shit
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Why did you even tell me this? I dont care about your fake "fair chance"
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you said it all right there
"Why did you even tell me this? I dont care"
you needn't say more; you've made it quite clear that you don't much care about anything that doesn't agree with you in the first place
since the Jelly mod staff doesn't agree with your claim of innocence you don't care about them (even though they're right)
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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all of the garbage you come up with on various issues gets filtered out, as it should
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So you are admitting to having a previous bias to everything I say.
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absolutely not; where is this baseless accusation coming from? you have a habit of spouting nonsensical garbage that cannot be supported in any manner
in the past i have agreed with you on various issues, though i doubt you remember
you can think all you want that i'm a closed-minded, biased individual
i know you will anyways, but i would like if you could prove such a thing
i'd like to say we both know you can't, but at this point i'm wondering what reality you actually exist in
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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i honestly don't care if people disagree with me about anything; they have every right to
but when they can never back it up in any sensible or reasonable way then i don't much value their opinion
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Seems quite contrary to everything youv said so far.
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not seeing it
please, do tell 
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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for example, your opinion could be that "stank rushes on city are not overpowered because GDI gets stanks too"
am i supposed to just agree with you because that's your opinion? no, i will not, and i may even call you an idiot for suggesting it
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gdi cant get stanks too so I really dont get what your getting at here.
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LOL
jesus christ dude, it was an example
not sure if trolling or just an idiot
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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[color=skyblue]really? i do a good job backing everything that i say up,
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You claimed Im mentally ill, shouldnt have children and am a complete idiot, surely youll be able to make a decent evident argument to this since you back everything up so well.
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i never claimed you are mentally ill; i said i wouldn't be the least bit surprised if you actually were
i said i think it would be for the greater good of mankind if you don't reproduce; that's my opinion based off of everything i know of you thus far
for all i know you could really be nothing like you portray yourself on the internet and be fooling me good!
from what i can tell you're an extremely ignorant, thick-headed individual; i shouldn't have to go back and gather evidence of situations where you did a good job of making yourself look this way
you should be able to use this very situation as a good example, rather than trying so hard to maintain your false innocence
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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something you have never done and likely will never do
is that my problem? no; what you do is your own business
however, don't expect anyone to give you any credibility
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You may start to notice that its just you here. If I wasnt form banned I could go through many polls topics ect where others thought I was correct I provided evidence ect. Do you really think I NEVER in the history of my existence backed anything up?
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of course not; where did i say such a thing?
there were some times where you tried to back something up, but your reasoning made no sense and was refuted by others' logic or reasoning
that didn't seem to matter to you though, because you likely dismissed it or filtered it out because it differed from your own opinion
if you really are mentally ill, i'm sorry for giving you such a hard time
i had the impression you were just an ignorant assclown on the other side of Lake Michigan
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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did you ever stop to think that, perhaps the way you are, is the reason people dislike you?
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You mean your social group on jelly?
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the person that i spoke to isn't even someone i know well; he's a former player and played in Ren-Archive
he posted occasionally and knows some people that i do actually know
this person, at random, had come to the same conclusion about you that i have
are you surprised?
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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it's not that you disagree, though you quite clearly seem to think so
i almost think you have a problem with *gasp* being wrong about things
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The same can be said for you.
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when i'm wrong about something i have no problem admitting to it
you're nothing like me; you cheated and lied about it for years to dozens, if not hundreds, of people
and that's about something as silly as using cheats in a computer game; you couldn't even be honest about that 
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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you can say the same about me but in all honesty i have no problem admitting when i'm wrong and telling people about it
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Of course youll say that now.
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why wouldn't i? it's true 
just because it doesn't match the picture of me you painted in your head does not make it untrue
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
Thats fucked up. You let someone cheat as a joke, yet I havent even been caught cheating and Im banned. Its this hypocrisy that really shows your true colors.
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the player did not cheat; he put R-G-H in the corner of the screenshot as a joke
no one realized it had been a faked screenshot
why would i allow anyone to cheat? that's just silly
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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the worst-case scenario is you'll evade and play again and still be terrible despite whatever cheats you choose to run
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Im not so sure what my gameplay skill levels have to do with cheating. If you think people cheat because they are trying to make up for a lack of skill in a game then your looking at cheating completely wrong.
Assume your worst case scenario is in play btw. I dont run cheats.
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i doubt that, but ok
and whether you run cheats now or not is beyond me; you were banned for having and using them at the time that you were banned
and now that you've admitted to using *cheat name removed*in communities that have neighbored Jelly you probably aren't very welcome
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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if you cause problems with in-game chat you'll likely get dealt with as would anyone else
Jelly Games doesn't discriminate
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I know how to not be found.
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by not playing because you're banned for cheating? 
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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come see me when you don't have to lie about what you've done and can accept it for what it is
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You mean come see me when you take my side and accept the cheats you werent using.
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the coke was in the trunk; you can't rewrite history, no matter how many times you try
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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it took you this long to come clean about cheating in other servers years ago so i don't expect anything anytime soon
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I came clean about the cheats to many people the moment I did it. Just because you werent one of them doesnt mean anything. You think your supposed to be involved in alot of things but frankly your really not. This is old news, I just publicly released the info for shits and gigs.
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you likely would have been banned from Jelly a long time ago
not once did you do anything remotely suspicious that i can recall in all your time there, and i applaud you for that
what makes you think i'm supposed to be involved in anything? this is another pointed statement with no actual basis
i hope you can back it up in some way
because a handful of people knew about it does not mean that n00bstories or st0rm knew, which is what actually mattered
for the record, you were a serious dipshit on both of their forums when the bans came around
your little one-line apology in the OP is almost a slap to the face of the people that had to spend their time dealing with your immaturity
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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the most populated server in Renegade dislikes you for cheating on it, which is why you were banned from it
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For life? Hm so your telling me anyone who is caught using any cheats on jelly is now banned for life?
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are you just anyone? no, you're not
you were a longtime regular, and as such are expected to follow the rules more than just anyone
you even participated in inter-community wars (and maybe even a community war or two - i'd have to check to be sure)
you also openly cheated on two neighboring communities, and managed to get banned at least once for breaking rules on the Marathon server
had you admitted to it like a man you'd likely be unbanned in time, but like a child you chose to deny it exactly like you did at n00bstories and st0rm when you were banned on their servers
you were a real prick about that too
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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i'm not sure if you realize that using cheat files is considered cheating (aka bighead, etc.)and that is why you were banned
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Which for the last time and I wont address this again, I was ok with because said files existed in my folder at the time and so I was ready to accept punishment and own up to having cheat sounding files in my folder. However first response to my ban topic was life ban. You can figure out the rest.
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that's a half-admission, but not a full one
you're so very close!
the fact that you, a longtime regular and known player, decided to use cheats is in a way a betrayal
if the mod in question decided to give you a lifetime ban it wouldn't be unwarranted
were it my call though, it wouldn't be a lifetime ban
had you at least admitted to it in the first place
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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i care about Renegade in a fanatical way? tell me, when is the last time i played Renegade derfcow
i enjoy the game, and i would like it to continue for as long as it can
i fail to see how that makes me a fanatic
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You seem to get quite worked up over it. Your still replying to my posts for some reason.
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because someone on the internet was wrong!
i'm trying to set the record straight, but in your case the record is broken and i'm likely just wasting my time being reasonable and rational with you
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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again, you were banned for having cheat files in your game folder
you were using them as you played;
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Your staff proved I had files in my folder, no one proved I was using them. This is also the last time Im addressing this because Its annoying. I didnt use any files, none were active and no one can prove I used anything actively because there inst the tineyest shred of proof for it. When someone shows me evidence of my actively using the cheats at the time of this ban or EVER in my history of playing at jelly then ill be as shocked as having the ability to fly.
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oh dear
the fact that they were in there is proof that you were using them; they are active there
it's like having a map in the data folder; it's active and on without having to be turned on
this excuse is almost as bad as "Steam put R-G-H on my computer" or "MUDKIPS' cat did it"
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
nope
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i'll give you a cookie if you tell the truth!
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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i don't understand why you're denying it; there's no denying what you had
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Theres no proving what I had, what did I do in game that was fishy/showed I used cheats. All you have are names from a bot.
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not all cheats are easy to detect
you also could have been using them for years and just sucked so badly that no one noticed anything out of the ordinary
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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the fact that you continued to lie about it then (and choose to lie about it now) is likely why you were forum banned
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Glad to hear an explanation. Though it looks like non mods have more power than the mods there as lurker suggested it and then it happened.
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Lurker is a former mod, and he's a good guy
however, i really doubt that Lurker forum-banned you or was the deciding factor in you being forum-banned
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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i think the world would be better off without people as thick-headed as yourself, and if you not having children could possibly contribute to this notion i think it could only be a good thing
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You off your soapbox yet?
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i'm unfamiliar with the expression, but if you understand then great - i don't have to keep explaining it
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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i asked why you think i'm a terrible administrator; are you suggesting that this is so, because i seem to dislike you as an individual and am not courteous and polite to you?
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Id have to say letting someone run *cheat name removed*and then withholding information seems proof enough right there. If youv done this who knows what else youv done but wont tell anyone about because it might fuck you in the ass?
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do you have anything other than that, because you were mistaken when you thought i let a player cheat as a joke? the player didn't cheat; again, he edited a screenshot in Paint or Photoshop and put the tag in the corner
he was going to put shit on the radar too but i said that was probably unnecessary to be convincing
again, i had no idea it would fool so many people
a harmless joke turned into a huge ordeal, and i accepted the fault and moved on
i wouldn't do anything similar in the future because of how that turned out; my sense of humor is not always modlike
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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why you think certain moderators should be removed, namely ones that have had problems with you in the past (aka dave2916, who banned you for teamkilling and teamhampering based off the words of xxxozxxxx and the corresponding IRC logs proving it)
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Mike needed to be removed as when he was a trial mod he kicked me for destroying a humvee mass he was busy th'ing with.
skeptical is new to the modship and kicked me for 2 weeks for supposedly giving tanks away.
scruffy just form banned me because a non moderator told him to.
You allowed someone to use *cheat name removed*post a ss, get them in a heat of trouble and didnt say a damn thing.
Of course I cant remember years of poor modship incidents specifically so it would be pointless for me to describe them.
I dont even know who dave29516 is...
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dave2916 is skeptical
you have no proof whatsoever that Scruffy forum-banned you or his reasoning for it; all you know is that you were forum-banned
Mike kicked you for destroying a mass? why are you surprised that that happened?
the "banned for two weeks for giving tanks away" doesn't sound familiar to me; was that an error with the bot not letting you back in, or was that the incident where you were teamkilling and xxxozxxxx talked to skeptical about it?
i didn't allow a player to use R-G-H, and you misunderstood my post
i allowed a player to post a faked R-G-H screenshot, and it ended up being so convincing that he was banned for it
the mistake was mine, and i unbanned him and apologized to the moderator both in private and in public
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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you seem to have a real problem with people that have a problem with you, but you're looking at it the wrong way: what you should be considering is that, perhaps, there's a one in a million chance that the fault is actually *gasp* your own
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I can only think of a handful of people that actually have a problem with me. Its the possession of power they have gained since I started at jelly that has gotten me where I am.
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so it's because people that dislike you and are biased against you became mods that you are banned now, and not because you used cheats? ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook there derfcow
can you show me one time where a player was banned simply because "the mods did not like them"?
if you try to cite your own case now then you're not only an idiot, you're also a liar
| fredcow9 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 13:53 |
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something to think about
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Thanks dr phil
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i'm likely hoping for too much when i ask that you be honest instead of lying in this case
what's the worst that could happen? the mods would say No guess what we don't give a shit you're staying banned anyways
then you could ban evade or whatever made-up shit you said prior to this
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| Re: To all the servers out there [message #466722 is a reply to message #466715] |
Thu, 26 April 2012 16:37 |
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| liquidv2 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2012 14:35 |
Holy fuck Spoony post.
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:38 |
I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
deliver on, or forum trolls who contribute nothing except to bloat the fragile egos of the same
rejects I despise.
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| Re: To all the servers out there [message #466734 is a reply to message #466486] |
Thu, 26 April 2012 23:49 |
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Summary, he's cheated everywhere else but not on our server. If you were banned you deserved it regardless of being caught or not.
See how easy was that to sum up? It's our decision on who we let in. You weren't wanted, move on.
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