| Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465317 is a reply to message #465314] |
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| iRANian wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 08:41 |
The fuck is this 'Alex' guy talking about?
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Excuse me, which part did you not understand?
| Brandan wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 08:46 |
If you decompile it the code in general sucks and the strings get messed up.
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How so? There may be some optimizations like string concatenation done at compile-time but they are minor.
| Brandan wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 08:46 |
Also the server isn't being ddosed unless it's poorly executed because the server still answers ping requests at reasonable reply time. Unless the irc server itself was shutdown/partly dosed/or someone just doesn't want people to connect.
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Ping doesn't have anything to do with this. Xwis has rather massive bandwidth. Taking up all the bandwidth is not necessary when smashing their TCP/IP stack does what the attackers want just fine.
And did you really have to quote the whole post?
| liquidv2 wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 08:53 |
now the rumor is that him or someone associated with him is flooding XWIS so no one can play; if you honestly view what XWIS did as wrong then you should view this as very, very wrong
funny how you seem to think that sort of behavior is justified
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TBH, I'm not really a renegade player I also haven't played on Xwis in well over a year at all. I'm sorry you guys can't play, I know it must suck. I'm also being accused by various people who would like to play (RA2) all the time about attacking Xwis and I'm sick of it. I mean I haven't been around for 1.5 years.
Greetings,
Alex
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| Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465319 is a reply to message #465317] |
Mon, 02 April 2012 09:08 |
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| ThisLittleGirl wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 09:04 |
| iRANian wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 08:41 |
The fuck is this 'Alex' guy talking about?
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Excuse me, which part did you not understand?
| Brandan wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 08:46 |
If you decompile it the code in general sucks and the strings get messed up.
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How so? There may be some optimizations like string concatenation done at compile-time but they are minor.
| Brandan wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 08:46 |
Also the server isn't being ddosed unless it's poorly executed because the server still answers ping requests at reasonable reply time. Unless the irc server itself was shutdown/partly dosed/or someone just doesn't want people to connect.
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Ping doesn't have anything to do with this. Xwis has rather massive bandwidth. Taking up all the bandwidth is not necessary when smashing their TCP/IP stack does what the attackers want just fine.
And did you really have to quote the whole post?
| liquidv2 wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 08:53 |
now the rumor is that him or someone associated with him is flooding XWIS so no one can play; if you honestly view what XWIS did as wrong then you should view this as very, very wrong
funny how you seem to think that sort of behavior is justified
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TBH, I'm not really a renegade player I also haven't played on Xwis in well over a year at all. I'm sorry you guys can't play, I know it must suck. I'm also being accused by various people who would like to play (RA2) all the time about attacking Xwis and I'm sick of it. I mean I haven't been around for 1.5 years.
Greetings,
Alex
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Ping response time would be affected by a ddos of any kind. A good ddos would take down the entire server to prevent the administrator from blocking the attack in general. Is it a ddos or just a dos then XWIS server is shit.
~ Brandan Tyler Lasley
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| Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465321 is a reply to message #465192] |
Mon, 02 April 2012 09:19 |
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Back on topic... are there any servers that are populated via direct connect?
For example the old atomix used to get a lot of players via the RR launcher.
I don't have a game browser other than xwis.
Jamie is a guys name in Europe...
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| Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465322 is a reply to message #465321] |
Mon, 02 April 2012 09:26 |
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| The Guy in your Tree wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 09:19 |
Back on topic... are there any servers that are populated via direct connect?
For example the old atomix used to get a lot of players via the RR launcher.
I don't have a game browser other than xwis.
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If any server is using RR and my program it should still populate a list gamespy as well for the xwis servers with gamespy program things.
~ Brandan Tyler Lasley
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| Re: Is XWIS down again? [message #465326 is a reply to message #465283] |
Mon, 02 April 2012 09:43 |
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| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 01:04 |
It should be possible to do this easier. Since it's IRC, it would be possible to make the Ren servers connect to a different IRC/WOLAPI server which then could be linked to the real XWIS server. Advantage of this would be that it is unlikely that both would go down without notice and thus that the servers could stay up in XWIS mode.
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It's not just a IRC server a little bit more complex bit you're right you could just link them or have some DNS setting that shifts to another server if one of them fails. Pretty much summarized what I just said btw.
Can a mod merge both xwis down threads?
~ Brandan Tyler Lasley
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| Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465338 is a reply to message #465192] |
Mon, 02 April 2012 11:19 |
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Anyone know if the actual XWIS program actually works, now that my network is online i can serve minor amount of XWIS server traffic if anyone needs some.
~ Brandan Tyler Lasley
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| Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465339 is a reply to message #465321] |
Mon, 02 April 2012 12:10 |
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| The Guy in your Tree wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 09:19 |
Back on topic... are there any servers that are populated via direct connect?
For example the old atomix used to get a lot of players via the RR launcher.
I don't have a game browser other than xwis.
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Atomix doesn't seem to be affected too much by this problem as it runs on wolspy as well. Most of the mainstreem servers are taking a real hit though. I know n00bstories has lost alot of players, not too sure how Jelly is coping... Let's hope Olaf fixes it sooner rather than later.
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| Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465342 is a reply to message #465335] |
Mon, 02 April 2012 12:45 |
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| TankClash wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 12:05 |
You can use RenDirCon and find out the IP and port information for the servers you want by visiting their websites, they are bound to have the information in there, I know that n00bstories is up at the moment, possibly jelly's too.
http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&goto=397626&rid=0
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Or you could just peruse the same forum section you posted in earlier.
http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&th=38221&start=0&rid=4 996
Why bother wasting time going to each website when that server listing is going to show the GSA servers?
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deliver on, or forum trolls who contribute nothing except to bloat the fragile egos of the same
rejects I despise.
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| Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465344 is a reply to message #465342] |
Mon, 02 April 2012 12:49 |
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Jelly has a playerbase still, however ns is dead, since it doesnt run on gsa.
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| Re: Is XWIS down again? [message #465345 is a reply to message #465340] |
Mon, 02 April 2012 12:51 |
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| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 22:17 |
Shifting servers doesn't solve the problem, particularly because servers would still lose all players because of a restart. Also, DNS updates can take up to 24 hours, so that might be longer than the downtime.
This would just be a solution to keep servers from crashing or serverowners having to update their settings.
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can take even 48 hours. we can see tomorrow if they fixed it.
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| Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465347 is a reply to message #465344] |
Mon, 02 April 2012 12:58 |
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| ehhh wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 13:49 |
Jelly has a playerbase still, however ns is dead, since it doesnt run on gsa.
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jello: [15:57:16] <JellyMarathon> Gameinfo: (GSA) Map: C&C_Under.mix GDI: 8/50 players
n00b: [15:56:21] <phpRenBot> [08/50|Under]
| Aircraftkiller wrote on Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:38 |
I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
deliver on, or forum trolls who contribute nothing except to bloat the fragile egos of the same
rejects I despise.
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| Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465351 is a reply to message #465350] |
Mon, 02 April 2012 13:16 |
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well thats a suprise, it was dead last night though, but alot of people use renlist.
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| Re: Is XWIS down again? [message #465354 is a reply to message #465340] |
Mon, 02 April 2012 13:46 |
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| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 12:17 |
Shifting servers doesn't solve the problem, particularly because servers would still lose all players because of a restart. Also, DNS updates can take up to 24 hours, so that might be longer than the downtime.
This would just be a solution to keep servers from crashing or serverowners having to update their settings.
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Dynamic or DNS pools take seconds.
Sounds like a hell of a better way than to just be down for 4 days until xwis is fixed.
~ Brandan Tyler Lasley
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| Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465362 is a reply to message #465360] |
Mon, 02 April 2012 17:01 |
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| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 15:40 |
If it's a DDOS it would just mean that there would be more servers targeted.
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Some networks have outstanding ddos protection. Facebook is one of them but they also have a shit ton more server than we do. Google is unddosable. More servers = slightly harder to ddos and would weaken the attack any good network administrator could stop a ddos also.
~ Brandan Tyler Lasley
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| Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465368 is a reply to message #465363] |
Mon, 02 April 2012 18:47 |
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That would mean that they are a terrible service even I keep backups of my entire server (20 GB) every week and MYSQL database dumps.
Being totally wiped and cannot recover tells you that there is some terrible server administrator!
~ Brandan Tyler Lasley
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| Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465377 is a reply to message #465363] |
Mon, 02 April 2012 23:04 |
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| Animoskity wrote on Tue, 03 April 2012 03:18 |
A source of mine is telling me he knows what happened but he can't exactly tell me what it is, apparently due to legality issues... But from the latest rumors i've been hearing, they've been completely hacked and wiped.
Would kind of explain why the huge downtime. But I think it's ridiculous to atleast not update this community. I wouldn't be surprised if the playerbase was slightly affected due to this. They might think it's dead forever, when as a shitty reality, might even remotely be true..
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they are afraid of telling what happens?
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| Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465378 is a reply to message #465308] |
Mon, 02 April 2012 23:16 |
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ohhh herbert, i'm sure THEY are doing a wonderful job. i see that xwis has been down a day or so now, you know loafy has probably given up.
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