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Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465240 is a reply to message #465192] Sun, 01 April 2012 12:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If this was an April Fools joke, I say we put up a petition to allow someone else run XWIS.
Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465241 is a reply to message #465240] Sun, 01 April 2012 12:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It is still the first of April, take nobody words seriously.

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Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465242 is a reply to message #465192] Sun, 01 April 2012 12:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i don't
Olaf has done a nearly flawless job of it for years now, and people are far too quick to criticize him whenever something happens

i don't think it's an April Fool's joke by him (more likely it's by Wilo or another st0rm member that incorrectly feels it's justified)


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Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465244 is a reply to message #465214] Sun, 01 April 2012 13:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Animoskity wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 05:46

Rumors are XWIS got DDoS'd... (More on this rumor claims a member of St0rm is doing it)

The "LAN" mode allows players to join over the Internet for some reason.

The downtime for XWIS is just ridiculous, when was the last time the GameSpy master list was down?


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Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465249 is a reply to message #465244] Sun, 01 April 2012 13:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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iRANian wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 16:37

when was the last time the GameSpy master list was down?


Last month for 6hours ;o


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Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465254 is a reply to message #465238] Sun, 01 April 2012 14:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Animoskity wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 20:27

because i'm a full moderator over at Atomix


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Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465257 is a reply to message #465244] Sun, 01 April 2012 15:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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iRANian wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 22:37

Animoskity wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 05:46

Rumors are XWIS got DDoS'd... (More on this rumor claims a member of St0rm is doing it)

The "LAN" mode allows players to join over the Internet for some reason.

The downtime for XWIS is just ridiculous, when was the last time the GameSpy master list was down?

The reason is not that weird. It assumes that if you don't know the IP and port, you won't join. There are some IP ranges reserved for lan, but if you want, you could even use IP's like 1.1.1.1 in your LAN. Hence, it can't filter on IP's for lan more


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Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465260 is a reply to message #465192] Sun, 01 April 2012 16:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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iRANian wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 08:30

If someone would write third party software to connect to a WOL master server and handle everything that would be great


I actually made a backup XWIS server for Roleplay 2 so when XWIS does go down it does not affect our operations. Its actually very easy for any mildly skilled programmer to make a fake xwis server that renegade will accept. I wrote a documentary on the roleplay 2 forums on how to do it but Jerad deleted it and never made a backup copy of it.

I was able to contact one of my servers to get the source code. Heres an XWIS Emulator that will allow your FDS to start and load along with accepting connections from a IP Address and port (unlike lan, gamespy).

XWIS Server Emulator (ALPHA)
http://brandanlasley.com/releases/WOL/XWIS%20Server%20Emulator.zip

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This is the first public test of this application and I would like to know the results from it. It may or may not work since its still a unstable version. Please note that this is not a WOLProxy as soon as XWIS Resumes operations in order to be listed once again on XWIS you have to close the application this will not transmit FDS code to XWIS!

Directions:
1. Close FDS
2. Extract application anywhere.
3. Open application
4. Run FDS
Not tested on 4.0!

(on some computers you may need to make sure that hosts file has write access and you run the program as administrator!)

It should be ever server owners right to enjoy free uninterrupted XWIS service.


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Re: Is XWIS down again? [message #465274 is a reply to message #463687] Sun, 01 April 2012 22:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How would you get new players to join the new XWIS? Or would they be joining the old? Not sure how it works, but if it involves splitting the community then don't do it. Not that many players look at these forums and wont know what settings they need to join any new XWIS's.

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Re: Is XWIS down again? [message #465275 is a reply to message #465274] Sun, 01 April 2012 22:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Can be easily done, but you're right about splitting the community in two. I already made a replica of the xwis server (posted in other thread) and I've studied xwis for 2 years and pretty much have it covered if anyone needs help just ask.

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Re: Is XWIS down again? [message #465276 is a reply to message #463687] Sun, 01 April 2012 23:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's just a way to join a server. All xwis clones could just fill up the same servers.

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Re: Is XWIS down again? [message #465279 is a reply to message #465276] Mon, 02 April 2012 00:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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why are two posts about same thing?

xwis didn't payed the bills or what? they moving again?
ren and other wol games losing players.
they could just tell us 'our servers have blabla' or just 'we are down.. we will be back soon'.


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Re: Is XWIS down again? [message #465281 is a reply to message #465276] Mon, 02 April 2012 00:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 23:31

It's just a way to join a server. All xwis clones could just fill up the same servers.

Doesnt make sense, but what I think you're trying to say is it wont have the same function as XWIS. I guess later on ill make a backup XWIS server (like WOLProxy) that has a modfied WOLAPI.dll so when you lose connection to XWIS it will drop FDS and the Renegade Client on to a backup XWIS until normal XWIS is restored. But this server would have to be hosted on a dedicated server with a dedicated ip.


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Re: Is XWIS down again? [message #465283 is a reply to message #463687] Mon, 02 April 2012 01:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It should be possible to do this easier. Since it's IRC, it would be possible to make the Ren servers connect to a different IRC/WOLAPI server which then could be linked to the real XWIS server. Advantage of this would be that it is unlikely that both would go down without notice and thus that the servers could stay up in XWIS mode.

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Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465288 is a reply to message #465192] Mon, 02 April 2012 04:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Brandan wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 07:58

I've studied xwis for 2 years and pretty much have it covered if anyone needs help just ask.

How can you "study" XWIS for 2 years and still make mistakes like "Winodws" "Westwod". This would make me think there are a lot of mistakes in the rest of your code as well.


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Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465289 is a reply to message #465192] Mon, 02 April 2012 04:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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He must be using a shitty compiler if it doesn't catch syntax errors then.

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Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465300 is a reply to message #465288] Mon, 02 April 2012 07:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dethdeath wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 04:31

Brandan wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 07:58

I've studied xwis for 2 years and pretty much have it covered if anyone needs help just ask.

How can you "study" XWIS for 2 years and still make mistakes like "Winodws" "Westwod". This would make me think there are a lot of mistakes in the rest of your code as well.

I don't fix typos as an actual bug. It doesn't effect the way the application runs and no compiler has a spell check I've known that for quite some time. Also how can you say there's mistakes in the code itself when it's closed source. Of course it has some issues since I compiled 2 of the same servers into one application in 30 minutes. Don't like it don't use it.


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Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465306 is a reply to message #465300] Mon, 02 April 2012 08:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Brandan wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 16:40

I don't fix typos as an actual bug. It doesn't effect the way the application runs and no compiler has a spell check I've known that for quite some time. Also how can you say there's mistakes in the code itself when it's closed source. Of course it has some issues since I compiled 2 of the same servers into one application in 30 minutes. Don't like it don't use it.

It just makes the way you work seem messy. It doesn't matter that it's closed source, when someone doesn't take the time to re-read their own code for spelling mistakes it could make people assume they haven't paid much attention to the rest of the application either.


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Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465307 is a reply to message #465306] Mon, 02 April 2012 08:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dethdeath wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 08:21

Brandan wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 16:40

I don't fix typos as an actual bug. It doesn't effect the way the application runs and no compiler has a spell check I've known that for quite some time. Also how can you say there's mistakes in the code itself when it's closed source. Of course it has some issues since I compiled 2 of the same servers into one application in 30 minutes. Don't like it don't use it.

It just makes the way you work seem messy. It doesn't matter that it's closed source, when someone doesn't take the time to re-read their own code for spelling mistakes it could make people assume they haven't paid much attention to the rest of the application either.



Or paid more attention to the rest of the code in general. The Westwood and spelling errors were done by my laziness and poorly using the "replace all" and made a typo. I believe I fixed those issues that picture was from half a year ago I didn't want to upload another one. Yes, it's also poorly coded and doesn't meet my quality control checks but it works just fine on our servers and I felt that it worked good enough to help other people

Taking the time to reread 5000 lines of code and GUI code each time I publish it doesn't sound fun. It was a rush job yes I agree on that.
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Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465308 is a reply to message #465192] Mon, 02 April 2012 08:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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reckneya wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 02:38

Don't forget XWIS is a free service. I and everyone can use it and not pay a dime for it.

Xwis is *NOT* a free service. To play on it you need valid serials that you have paid for or an Xwis account that they sell for a ridiculous 10 €.

Animoskity wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 05:46

Rumors are XWIS got DDoS'd... (More on this rumor claims a member of St0rm is doing it)

Appears like it. The server is actually up but a SYN is answered with RST-ACK. Whoever is doing it is doing a damn fine job so far. Thumbs Up

YesNoMayb wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 11:37

Where can I get in touch with Olaf? This is ridiculous. He needs to be more involved in this community.

He only cares about the money not the community. If you really want to waste your time then mail him at olafvdspek@gmail.com. He will read and if you're lucky he'll also reply with a one-liner, you can send him some nice regards from myself too. Smile

Brandan wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 07:40

Also how can you say there's mistakes in the code itself when it's closed source.

VB.NET apps are hardly closed source. Stuff seems legit though, good job. Alternatives to Xwis are always welcome.

I don't know st0rm but I sure as hell sympathise with them. I've been both permanently banned from S-T before with false warn-log entries by an admin and from the game as well for a totally ridiculous reason with no proof disclosed by them whatsoever. The way Xwis "the official server" is treating the community they really don't deserve to have one and they certainly don't deserve to be running these games either. It's no wonder these attacks are only increasing and I wouldn't be surprised if this is the end of Xwis or may be it soon.

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ThisLittleGirl wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 08:33

reckneya wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 02:38

Don't forget XWIS is a free service. I and everyone can use it and not pay a dime for it.

Xwis is *NOT* a free service. To play on it you need valid serials that you have paid for or an Xwis account that they sell for a ridiculous 10 €.

Animoskity wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 05:46

Rumors are XWIS got DDoS'd... (More on this rumor claims a member of St0rm is doing it)

Appears like it. The server is actually up but a SYN is answered with RST-ACK. Whoever is doing it is doing a damn fine job so far. Thumbs Up

YesNoMayb wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 11:37

Where can I get in touch with Olaf? This is ridiculous. He needs to be more involved in this community.

He only cares about the money not the community. If you really want to waste your time then mail him at olafvdspek@gmail.com. He will read and if you're lucky he'll also reply with a one-liner, you can send him some nice regards from myself too. Smile

Brandan wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 07:40

Also how can you say there's mistakes in the code itself when it's closed source.

VB.NET apps are hardly closed source. Stuff seems legit though, good job. Alternatives to Xwis are always welcome.

I don't know st0rm but I sure as hell sympathise with them. I've been both permanently banned from S-T before with false warn-log entries by an admin and from the game as well for a totally ridiculous reason with no proof disclosed by them whatsoever. The way Xwis "the official server" is treating the community they really don't deserve to have one and they certainly don't deserve to be running these games either. It's no wonder these attacks are only increasing and I wouldn't be surprised if this is the end of Xwis or may be it soon.

Greetings,
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Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465310 is a reply to message #465192] Mon, 02 April 2012 08:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The fuck is this 'Alex' guy talking about?

Does the WOL server emulator only emulate the connection to WOL itself? That's pretty interesting.


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ThisLittleGirl wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 08:33

reckneya wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 02:38

Don't forget XWIS is a free service. I and everyone can use it and not pay a dime for it.

Xwis is *NOT* a free service. To play on it you need valid serials that you have paid for or an Xwis account that they sell for a ridiculous 10 €.

Animoskity wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 05:46

Rumors are XWIS got DDoS'd... (More on this rumor claims a member of St0rm is doing it)

Appears like it. The server is actually up but a SYN is answered with RST-ACK. Whoever is doing it is doing a damn fine job so far. Thumbs Up

YesNoMayb wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 11:37

Where can I get in touch with Olaf? This is ridiculous. He needs to be more involved in this community.

He only cares about the money not the community. If you really want to waste your time then mail him at olafvdspek@gmail.com. He will read and if you're lucky he'll also reply with a one-liner, you can send him some nice regards from myself too. Smile

Brandan wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 07:40

Also how can you say there's mistakes in the code itself when it's closed source.

VB.NET apps are hardly closed source. Stuff seems legit though, good job. Alternatives to Xwis are always welcome.

I don't know st0rm but I sure as hell sympathise with them. I've been both permanently banned from S-T before with false warn-log entries by an admin and from the game as well for a totally ridiculous reason with no proof disclosed by them whatsoever. The way Xwis "the official server" is treating the community they really don't deserve to have one and they certainly don't deserve to be running these games either. It's no wonder these attacks are only increasing and I wouldn't be surprised if this is the end of Xwis or may be it soon.

Greetings,
Alex


If you decompile it the code in general sucks and the strings get messed up.
Also the server isn't being ddosed unless it's poorly executed because the server still answers ping requests at reasonable reply time. Unless the irc server itself was shutdown/partly dosed/or someone just doesn't want people to connect.

Shit iPhone double replied instead of edited, my bad.


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Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465313 is a reply to message #465308] Mon, 02 April 2012 08:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ThisLittleGirl wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 10:33

I don't know st0rm but I sure as hell sympathise with them. I've been both permanently banned from S-T before with false warn-log entries by an admin and from the game as well for a totally ridiculous reason with no proof disclosed by them whatsoever. The way Xwis "the official server" is treating the community they really don't deserve to have one and they certainly don't deserve to be running these games either. It's no wonder these attacks are only increasing and I wouldn't be surprised if this is the end of Xwis or may be it soon.

Greetings,
Alex


you compare a false-ban that you once experienced on some obscure server to this situation? that's horribly inaccurate, at best
Wilost0rm was flooding and crashing other servers multiple times a day for literally months on end, non-stop
the only server that still filled up on a daily basis was his main target, and his goal was to get all of those players to join his server; this game is over 10 years old now, and terrorism of that magnitude isn't good for Renegade as a whole
once it was determined that it was indeed him both he and his servers were banned
it was made clear that if he was removed from the st0rm picture that st0rm would be allowed back on and everything would be fine
the fact that he did not offer to step down shows how much both he cares about Renegade

now the rumor is that him or someone associated with him is flooding XWIS so no one can play; if you honestly view what XWIS did as wrong then you should view this as very, very wrong
funny how you seem to think that sort of behavior is justified


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iRANian wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 08:41

The fuck is this 'Alex' guy talking about?

Does the WOL server emulator only emulate the connection to WOL itself? That's pretty interesting.

It allows connections on port 4003,4005.

Port 4005 is a list of servers available for the xwis.
Port 4003 does the actual xwis work.

It replies to the FDS requests makes and over all tries to make FDS happy with not running on XWIS. If the hosts file doesn't work I can always send to a modified WOLAPI.dll


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