| OT: The RIAA [message #46411] |
Wed, 10 September 2003 16:44  |
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boma57
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Just something else to talk about...
First off, I certainly realize that the RIAA has a right to be angry with people who download music, and I'd also certainly say that they have a right to be compensated for it...but give me a break.
261 people were issued subpoenas yesterday, and the lowest a case has been settled for so far is around $3,000. If each person got that minimum, it's still $783,000 for the RIAA.
If each of those people had an average of 50 songs, and were ordered to pay a fine worth double the value of what they'd "stolen" (assuming a $15 CD with 20 songs), the RIAA would get $20,000 for 261 people. Now, I think repaying double the price is more than fair; normally, shoplifting of something such as a CD is treated as a misdemeanor.
So $20,000 is fair, but $783,000 is what their getting...hmm.
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| OT: The RIAA [message #46429] |
Wed, 10 September 2003 19:17  |
xSeth2k2x
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Registered: July 2003
Location: In my room in the chair
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it will tkae them forever to sue everyone and besides
*cough*peerguardian*cough*
/me walks slow and looks around and runs
Farewell.
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| OT: The RIAA [message #46435] |
Wed, 10 September 2003 19:36 |
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boma57
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it will tkae them forever to sue everyone and besides
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They don't have to sue everyone...I have no doubt that they're able to shut down a few P2P networks. They can only "find" you if you're sharing music, so the simple solution for most people is to stop sharing. Yeah, well, that'll save your own skin just fine, but the RIAA is still winning because they'll have succeeded in shutting down the P2P networks when everyone stops sharing.
The issue is deeper than that, though. If they do close down P2P networks, next they'll be after burned CDs. Someone can buy a CD, burn it, give it to all their friends and then resell it. Same as a P2P network, just physically and not digitally. That'll be a much, much tougher fight, though...
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| OT: The RIAA [message #46482] |
Thu, 11 September 2003 06:50 |
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Epyon
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The RIAA needs a hot burning slow painful death
They took a 13 year old girl to court, as well as an old man who had a computer that his great grandchildren used, but not him.
I can't wait for somebody big to call for a boycot on all RIAA sales, it will be a marvelous day.
ph34r!
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| OT: The RIAA [message #46486] |
Thu, 11 September 2003 07:05 |
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England
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Registered: February 2003
Location: High Wycombe, England
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One word
mIRC
Riaa cant trace that, fuck 'em
In the end it doesn't matter if you are who you say you are. You will still mean nothing to me.
When i have kids, everytime i drive past a fast food restaurant, im gonna punch my kid in the face, then they'll never wanna come..
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| OT: The RIAA [message #46491] |
Thu, 11 September 2003 07:43 |
Neo
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Actually, everytime soemthing like this comes up all they are doing is giving these places free advertising. Think about how popular Napster got from the whole Metallica thing. They more than doubled in size. Fact is that no matter what the RIAA does they will not stop p2p sharing.
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| OT: The RIAA [message #46633] |
Thu, 11 September 2003 15:20 |
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smwScott
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They're fighting a losing battle. Sure they can ruin a few peoples lives and maybe slow down file sharing for about a month, but they can't stop it. As long as there is an internet with unrestricted downloads there will be ways to get anything you want. The RIAA won't win this, it's costing them a lot of money to carry out all those law suits.
Oh, and I noticed a lot of the songs I get are fucked up at some point or another now. Is this those RIAA pricks or just the fact that Kazaa is shitty?
-smwScott
47% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
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| OT: The RIAA [message #46651] |
Thu, 11 September 2003 20:52 |
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YSLMuffins
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There's always Kazaa lite...
-YSLMuffins
The goddess of all (bread products)
See me online as yslcheeze
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| OT: The RIAA [message #46761] |
Fri, 12 September 2003 14:24 |
Ultron10
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Location: England
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I honestly couldn't give a fuck what the RIAA say or do.
It's all about the money...
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| OT: The RIAA [message #46778] |
Fri, 12 September 2003 14:54 |
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Griever92
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Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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I was just about to post a topic about the riaa when i saw this topic. well i download music off the kazza network and i dont freeking care about the damn RIAA. Hey think n00bstoires could make there own version of kazza? it would be cool, and if kazza goes down we could use this.
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oh yeah, cause Crimson really wants to get sued for helping to distribute illegally obtained music.
Alex "Griever92" Bracken
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| OT: The RIAA [message #46806] |
Fri, 12 September 2003 17:13 |
setstyle
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The RIAA's just in a fit because people naturally seek to bypass the outrageous prices set by the industry. I can sum it up in one word: Greed. How the hell am I supposed to hear a band's sound if I can't hear the songs? CD stores' sampling machines aren't always an option, since they often carry only whatever's "cool" at the time (which I usually look down upon). Some sites may have samples, but that could be the best/worst song on the album, leaving me with little understanding of it as a whole. If that "copyrighted material" is really good, and merchandise isn't overpriced (yeah right), I may even buy some stuff. If I don't like it, I'm obviously not going to let it on my computer and listen to it.
your = possessive adjective
you're = you + are
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| OT: The RIAA [message #46859] |
Sat, 13 September 2003 03:39 |
MonkeyPhonic
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Registered: August 2003
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Ok so a quick math lesson.
There's 250 mil people in the US, aproximately.
250 of them were sued by the RIAA.
So you have a one in a million chance of being sued.
Compare that to your chances of being run over by a car this week.
Do you stop crossing the road?
Kazza might be brought down by this, but probbaly not, and even if they are there are plaenty of other peer to peer networks that are a lot better than Kazza for protecting your identity.
The Music industry went to shit years ago, they'll happily rip you off in a second and cry like babies when they get the shaft. For example, the unit cost of producing a DVD is far lower than the unit cost of producing a video casset, however the industry knows that because the quality is much higher and it's all new fangled technermological wizadry that you the punter will be all impressed and expect it to cost more, and far be it from them to dissapoint your expectations.
I used to work for a media reproduction company a few years ago, and the cost on CD's for a short run of 100 or so is quite high, but when your talking in the 100,000's then it's waaaay lower.
Games are a different kettle of fish tho, the development cost is way higher than for music and there's no box office recuipment like in the fil biz. However they could be cheaper too, but your high street store takes a 50% cut, the publisher takes a big chunk so the developer quite often barely breaks even, baring games like GT3 and so on. Don't bitch about companies like Westood going under if you have a chipped playstation and a stack of coppied titles. Your part of the problem.
/Soap box ranting
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