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| Re: St0rm "Truth" [message #463281 is a reply to message #463279] |
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| TEAM MDK wrote on Thu, 01 March 2012 06:30 |
| Xpert wrote on Wed, 29 February 2012 18:50 |
lol hes ddosing atomix right now. yay! 
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Santa Claus.
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| Re: St0rm "Truth" [message #463314 is a reply to message #462549] |
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he did continue to do it... and made all sorts of cartoonish e-threats at the same time
he did everything he possibly could to avoid a resolution to the problem he created (created by a long series of deliberate decisions he could've reversed at any point)
the one thing he didn't try was the advice i gave him right at the start, i.e. "just stop being such a mean lady". he'd see his own community completely wiped off renegade before he tried that, and yet the st0rm community still think he was their friend rather than their enemy... oh well
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| Re: St0rm "Truth" [message #463326 is a reply to message #462549] |
Thu, 01 March 2012 13:39 |
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we don't treat him as a god or idol like all you hate mongerers have been implying...
its a game server.. free too.. no strings attached.. we wanted to play there because of the server mods, its that simple. We don't want the server because we love the owner, we want the server because the gameplay is fun... just because we're there doesn't mean we like the owner or approve of whatever acts he does.
its like.. how homeless people can hate the rich guy who made millions of people lose their homes and jobs... but they'll still go to a homeless shelter that's set up by the same rich guy. Its not like going there makes them worship him, they still hate his guts.. but they still need shelter.
and in this case, I still need entertainment, but it has been robbed from me. One of the main reasons to play on storm was the lack of ridiculous mvp/score/kdwhoring self-destructive gameplay that is encouraged on pretty much every other server I tried out. It's ridiculous but the gameplay on these servers (including jelly) actively encourages people to do stupid things like pointwhore when the enemy ref is down for an mvp rec/ladder, or waste time walking back to base slowly rather than die and respawn quickly for a kd rec, or intentionally lose the game before you lose your highest mvp/kd, or camp/sbh all day to avoid dying so you can keep your kd rec, and the list goes on and on. storm at least got rid of the rewards for mvp and kd, and uses a different ladder system that isn't pointwhore based (its more kill/repair whore based). Granted its not perfect, but at the very least the above examples of team hampering weren't so encouraged. nothing more annoying than telling some idiot to stop team hampering only to have him say "shut up noob, look at my awesome rank/ladder/recs/fame/etc that I got from these acts of team hampering." or something along those lines.
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| Re: St0rm "Truth" [message #463334 is a reply to message #463327] |
Thu, 01 March 2012 14:02 |
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| iRANian wrote on Thu, 01 March 2012 13:41 |
It's more how you keep listening to a dictator killing millions because he gives you money.
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iran, your analogy doesn't make sense... you're making us sound like hired goons of an evil organization...
If playing on storm servers required players to go bomb other servers or take orders from wilo somehow then yes.. but here it doesn't. He's giving us money sure, but we're not listening to him. In no way does playing there force us to perform any evil actions or listen to anything he says.
When a homeless guy goes to a homeless shelter... he gets the services for free.. he doesn't have to kill someone or do any evil acts to get the services, or even listen to whoever set up the shelter. Same thing here, playing on his server doesn't mean I have to do whatever he tells me lol. If he tried that we'd just ragequit his server forever. Hence my analogy works way better. We're more like innocent people who are served by evil but aren't doing anything evil...
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| Re: St0rm "Truth" [message #463337 is a reply to message #462549] |
Thu, 01 March 2012 14:07 |
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stop whingeing about how people don't have sufficiently high opinion of your "moral calibre"... how many times have you told wilo that his actions - both before and since the XWIS sanction - were killing st0rm? it wasn't anyone here who killed st0rm, it was wilo. he deliberately chose to see st0rm crumble rather than just stop e-attacking people. be honest now, did you make a serious attempt to tell him that? no, instead you rail on and on at the people who said "it's about time we stopped this". if you want your moral calibre to be recognised i must say i'm not impressed so far
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| Re: St0rm "Truth" [message #463338 is a reply to message #462549] |
Thu, 01 March 2012 14:09 |
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Dude, you keep supporting a community of which the owner attacked all the other Renegade communities to a point where the community got XWIS banned. Are you mentally disabled? How can you not see anything wrong wit this?
Long time and well respected Renegade community member, programmer, modder and tester.
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| Re: St0rm "Truth" [message #463340 is a reply to message #463326] |
Thu, 01 March 2012 14:12 |
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| falcod wrote on Thu, 01 March 2012 13:39 |
and in this case, I still need entertainment, but it has been robbed from me. One of the main reasons to play on storm was the lack of ridiculous mvp/score/kdwhoring self-destructive gameplay that is encouraged on pretty much every other server I tried out. It's ridiculous but the gameplay on these servers (including jelly) actively encourages people to do stupid things like pointwhore when the enemy ref is down for an mvp rec/ladder, or waste time walking back to base slowly rather than die and respawn quickly for a kd rec, or intentionally lose the game before you lose your highest mvp/kd, or camp/sbh all day to avoid dying so you can keep your kd rec, and the list goes on and on. storm at least got rid of the rewards for mvp and kd, and uses a different ladder system that isn't pointwhore based (its more kill/repair whore based). Granted its not perfect, but at the very least the above examples of team hampering weren't so encouraged. nothing more annoying than telling some idiot to stop team hampering only to have him say "shut up noob, look at my awesome rank/ladder/recs/fame/etc that I got from these acts of team hampering." or something along those lines.
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if you crave an environment where you must play to help the team without much thought of personal score/killcount etc if you want success, clanwars > any public server.
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| Re: St0rm "Truth" [message #463341 is a reply to message #463337] |
Thu, 01 March 2012 14:18 |
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| Spoony wrote on Thu, 01 March 2012 14:07 |
stop whingeing about how people don't have sufficiently high opinion of your "moral calibre"... how many times have you told wilo that his actions - both before and since the XWIS sanction - were killing st0rm? it wasn't anyone here who killed st0rm, it was wilo. he deliberately chose to see st0rm crumble rather than just stop e-attacking people. be honest now, did you make a serious attempt to tell him that? no, instead you rail on and on at the people who said "it's about time we stopped this". if you want your moral calibre to be recognised i must say i'm not impressed so far
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but you're not stopping this at all... all you achieved was shut down the storm server.. that doesn't stop him from e-attacking whatsoever... if anything it encourages it more (no this is not a threat, its just an observation on human psychology)
for the record, I didn't tell him myself, because there's already plenty of other people doing exactly that and I don't have anything extra to add. I rail on here because I do have something extra to add... mainly logic and reason, which the mass hatred has left many blind to and causing them to commit logical fallacies like guilt by association or "you're either with us or with the terrorists" type of statements.
Lastly.. moral calibre should only be defined by what we do, not what we don't do. If its defined by what we don't do, then everyone here (and almost everyone on earth) is human scum because we should stop wasting our money on games and instead donate it all to the hungry and saving their lives rather than wasting it on cheap entertainment.
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| Re: St0rm "Truth" [message #463342 is a reply to message #463340] |
Thu, 01 March 2012 14:20 |
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| Spoony wrote on Thu, 01 March 2012 14:12 |
| falcod wrote on Thu, 01 March 2012 13:39 |
and in this case, I still need entertainment, but it has been robbed from me. One of the main reasons to play on storm was the lack of ridiculous mvp/score/kdwhoring self-destructive gameplay that is encouraged on pretty much every other server I tried out. It's ridiculous but the gameplay on these servers (including jelly) actively encourages people to do stupid things like pointwhore when the enemy ref is down for an mvp rec/ladder, or waste time walking back to base slowly rather than die and respawn quickly for a kd rec, or intentionally lose the game before you lose your highest mvp/kd, or camp/sbh all day to avoid dying so you can keep your kd rec, and the list goes on and on. storm at least got rid of the rewards for mvp and kd, and uses a different ladder system that isn't pointwhore based (its more kill/repair whore based). Granted its not perfect, but at the very least the above examples of team hampering weren't so encouraged. nothing more annoying than telling some idiot to stop team hampering only to have him say "shut up noob, look at my awesome rank/ladder/recs/fame/etc that I got from these acts of team hampering." or something along those lines.
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if you crave an environment where you must play to help the team without much thought of personal score/killcount etc if you want success, clanwars > any public server.
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what's the name of the server? I can't find it on ren list
edit: I read that again more carefully.. you mean the once in a blue moon actual community wars? or is there some special server that regularly has this type of gameplay?
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| Re: St0rm "Truth" [message #463347 is a reply to message #462549] |
Thu, 01 March 2012 14:35 |
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yea so.. where is it? How does one get in it? What is it even lol.. I don't see this information anywhere and renlist doesnt seem to show any clanwar servers.
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| Re: St0rm "Truth" [message #463349 is a reply to message #463341] |
Thu, 01 March 2012 14:39 |
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| falcod wrote on Thu, 01 March 2012 14:18 |
but you're not stopping this at all... all you achieved was shut down the storm server..
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sorry, who's "you"? it wasn't anyone here who laboured to that effect.
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that doesn't stop him from e-attacking whatsoever... if anything it encourages it more (no this is not a threat, its just an observation on human psychology)
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well then, give scum like wilo everything they want. don't resist them, you'll make them mad and they'll attack you again and it'll be your fault.
dude, drop this line of reasoning, all it does is blame the victim.
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for the record, I didn't tell him myself, because there's already plenty of other people doing exactly that and I don't have anything extra to add.
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hah! you should've said that about the petition, then.
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I rail on here because I do have something extra to add... mainly logic and reason
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fucking awful attempts at logic and reason
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which the mass hatred has left many blind to and causing them to commit logical fallacies like guilt by association or "you're either with us or with the terrorists" type of statements.
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statements? quit crying about statements. don't read them if they upset you so much.
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Lastly.. moral calibre should only be defined by what we do, not what we don't do. If its defined by what we don't do, then everyone here (and almost everyone on earth) is human scum because we should stop wasting our money on games and instead donate it all to the hungry and saving their lives rather than wasting it on cheap entertainment.
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is this another crack at "logic and reason"? if so don't pat yourself on the back too hard, you're pretty dumb if you think you're making a good point here
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| Re: St0rm "Truth" [message #463350 is a reply to message #463346] |
Thu, 01 March 2012 14:41 |
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clanwars.cc - clanwars league.
get on xwis. btw you don't need to worry about the admin - that's me btw - cheating against you, or making cartoonish e-threats if you annoy me somehow. but i'm sure if i did, you'd find a way of saying it was someone else's fault, and nobody should do anything in response to it...
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| Spoony wrote on Thu, 01 March 2012 14:12 |
if you crave an environment where you must play to help the team without much thought of personal score/killcount etc if you want success, clanwars > any public server.
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I love when spoony throws clanwars into the conversation! 
We need more teams or more population in that server
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i'm getting new ppl into TC, games this weekend?
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