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I'm about to re-open the Renegade League over at Clanwars.cc.

This is due in no small part to the fact the anti-cheat seems to be holding out. It will actually be the first time in renehistory where the league didn't have a problem with cheats, unless you count a brief period when the game was new, and even then there were problems with bug abuse, pointpushing etc.

But now we finally have the opportunity for a competitive and fair gaming experience which is not only free from cheats, but is also able to take advantage of the bugfixes and balance tweaks that have proven themselves beneficial to the game's balance - removing the point bug, disallowing harvblock, infinite infantry ammo.

We have a couple of servers almost ready, just tweaking a couple of things and then we can get going. I'm greatly indebted to Caveman for helping me in this regard.

I know that the game is simply too old to expect the league to be as busy as it was, but there's no reason why we can't make it as good a gaming experience as it once was (and better than it was at some times in its history). All it'll take is respectful fair play and well-defined clans (in other words, make a clan with a strong identity, stick with that one clan of players, and keep botting to a minimum). It is also not necessarily such a bad thing that many of the Clanwars.cc regulars have quit the game - it means that players who are new to clan games can participate in the league with more success, and let's not forget that a lot of the Clanwars.cc community were - let's not put too fine a point on it - ********* ****burgers.

I've also - with reservations - decided to clear the banlist, although a clear banlist is not quite the same thing as a clean slate.

Stay tuned for more updates...


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Re: Clan gaming [message #461379 is a reply to message #461376] Sat, 07 January 2012 20:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Clan gaming [message #461380 is a reply to message #461376] Sat, 07 January 2012 20:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Waste of time.

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Re: Clan gaming [message #461403 is a reply to message #461376] Sun, 08 January 2012 10:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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perhaps you should make a clan with the atomix people or wherever it is you play, xpert
Re: Clan gaming [message #461404 is a reply to message #461376] Sun, 08 January 2012 10:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Good luck!

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Re: Clan gaming [message #461408 is a reply to message #461376] Sun, 08 January 2012 12:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nice that you're giving it another shot. Good luck, mate Smile.

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Re: Clan gaming [message #461439 is a reply to message #461408] Sun, 08 January 2012 17:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Should be interesting now people can't abuse... I might even get into Ren 3v3 style :/

CarrierII wrote

BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ

Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.


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Re: Clan gaming [message #461455 is a reply to message #461439] Mon, 09 January 2012 07:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Caveman wrote on Sun, 08 January 2012 17:11

Should be interesting now people can't abuse... I might even get into Ren 3v3 style :/

make a clan with some people u know
Re: Clan gaming [message #461477 is a reply to message #461376] Mon, 09 January 2012 16:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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g?G I give it one month till it closes again.
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stfu or i 1v1 u at CVS
Re: Clan gaming [message #461486 is a reply to message #461376] Mon, 09 January 2012 18:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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good work spoony. message me your steam/msn/whatever the fuck your using now.

im best rene
Re: Clan gaming [message #461490 is a reply to message #461483] Mon, 09 January 2012 20:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hitman wrote on Mon, 09 January 2012 17:17

stfu or i 1v1 u at CVS


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Re: Clan gaming [message #461494 is a reply to message #461376] Tue, 10 January 2012 04:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I see the regular CW.cc public hasn't aged a day Rocked Over

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Re: Clan gaming [message #461497 is a reply to message #461494] Tue, 10 January 2012 04:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Tue, 10 January 2012 04:11

I see the regular CW.cc public hasn't aged a day Rocked Over

i was just joking, or well... maybe i wasn't entirely

i just dont like people who come spread their negativity in a topic that doesn't concern them
Re: Clan gaming [message #461498 is a reply to message #461376] Tue, 10 January 2012 06:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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who's pretending to be c4smoke, then?

actually don't answer that, it doesn't matter... there isn't anybody who couldn't do it


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Re: Clan gaming [message #461505 is a reply to message #461376] Tue, 10 January 2012 09:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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servers are nearly ready, just tweaking a couple of things

Some of the stuff you can look forward to...

THE !READY COMMAND
Many players experience slower loads while running 4.0, and this needed addressing in competitive matches. There is a function in the CWservers that puts gameplay on hold until all players indicate that they are loaded and ready. Once all players type '!ready' in F2 chat, the game will 'reset' and gameplay then begins. 'Reset' means everyone spawns afresh with 0 credits, and the harvesters will be newly deployed.
There's a maximum of two minutes wait for the reset if some players don't type the !ready command.

So here's how to start a clanmatch, in such a way that means neither clan chooses side. Get everyone in the server and onto separate teams - the first map is a non-playable buffer map. Skip the map using !poll gameover, or simply have one team basekill the other. When the next map loads, use the !ready command to kick things off for real.

If both clans consent, you can decide which clan gets GDI and Nod; however, the approved method is for sides to be random.

INFINITE INFANTRY AMMO
I've been advocating this for some time, and it has proven successful where it has been tested. The results of this change have been entirely positive, and I've never heard a good reason why infantry should run out of ammo in multiplayer, nor has anyone managed to point to a downside of this change.
It affects all infantry weapons except the various c4 types and beacons.

CHEAPER INFANTRY
I've taken it upon myself to tweak the costs of most of the infantry. I feel most of them ought to be cheaper than they are. As follows:
GDI/Nod Officer: 50
Tib Sydney: 50
Rocket Officer: 150
Patch: 200
Laser Chaingunner: 250
Deadeye/Black Hand Sniper: 400
Mobius/Mendoza: 600
PIC Sydney/Raveshaw: 800
Havoc/Sakura: 800
Usual prices for Chem Warrior, Gunner, Stealth Black Hand and Hotwire/Technician.

CRATES
The stock maps have more crate spawns than you might be used to, but some of them were not properly implemented, it seems. 4.0 fixes this and implements the originally designed spawn locations. For example, on City Flying the crate is sometimes in the middle of the map, which is a nice change; it means there's more likely to be a fight over it, as well as something of an edge for GDI.

2.5 CREDITS PER SECOND
This was supposed to be the case anyway, but it doesn't happen properly. 4.0 fixes that. You alternate between 2 credits one second, then 3, then 2, then 3. If you miss the stupidly inflated extra credits you used to get thanks to the ridiculous point bug, see how you like this instead.

MESA DEADZONES
If you played Mesa2 then you already know what I'm talking about.
There are a few problems with the old version of Mesa - damage from certain spots and angles was not dealt properly. Tanks on the bridge had difficulty hitting buildings, did only partial damage to tanks on the ground, and couldn't splash infantry. Tank shells from the side path behaved oddly against the Nod refinery, turret and airstrip. Grenadiers had difficulty hitting the Airstrip from the infantry area. Etc.
All of these problems have now been fixed. So, for example, tanks on the bridge do their normal damage to targets on the ground. This makes the bridge much more important, and opens up a new dimension to the map's general strategy.

SNIPER SCOPING
When snipers scope and strafe at the same time, they don't flicker like they used to. They'll just walk slowly. Get used to that on flying maps... it seems like it will make the sniper fight a more skilful affair.


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Re: Clan gaming [message #461514 is a reply to message #461505] Tue, 10 January 2012 12:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nice one, thanks for helping Caveman. (You're still an AMAZON ASIAN BASHER, but yeah) <3

Best of luck, sir.


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Re: Clan gaming [message #461518 is a reply to message #461376] Tue, 10 January 2012 13:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This should be fun, I'll pass this on to Jason etc.

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Caveman wrote on Fri, 21 January 2011 08:26

Well this topic is still going on. I have to say I haven't watched much Anime recently (maybe a year or so) the last thing I saw was GITS (for the third time)

Im not too sure whether I just dont enjoy Anime anymore or whether its just I dont have time really to shit and watch it.






Re: Clan gaming [message #461522 is a reply to message #461505] Tue, 10 January 2012 15:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CHEAPER INFANTRY

some of those seemed strange to me, but then i remembered that they never run out of ammo
gonna be interesting seeing how it all plays out Razz



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2.5 CREDITS PER SECOND

3 per second is far too much - i've seen and played on it, and i ended up with far more credits than i could have gotten with the original points (the ones with the green health bug)


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MESA DEADZONES

as far as i know all the altitude glitches and deadzones are fixed on the other maps as well; it's like everyone is using Mesa2, but it's still Mesa


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Re: Clan gaming [message #461527 is a reply to message #461376] Tue, 10 January 2012 16:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Each to his own, but Spoony, you are aware that in terms of damage per second a laser chaingunner and a raveshaw do pretty much the same damage right? The rave is *slightly* better, but not much.

Of course the rave has some other advantages like being able to go into cover while the LCG needs to keep hitting the target, but still.


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Re: Clan gaming [message #461529 is a reply to message #461376] Tue, 10 January 2012 17:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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thanks for the info, but a rav is a lot better than an LCG in a clanmatch.

You've read my posts about my intentions to revive the Clanwars.cc Renegade league. The servers are now ready. Thus, the league is open for business.

All clan matches need to be played in one of the official servers.
CWserver1: Popular Maps (cityfly, field, islands, volcano, complex, canyon, wallsfly)
CWserver2: all of the above plus mesa, walls, under
CWserv3: Field 1v1
Password to all of the above is 'havoc'.
You need to download the Clanwars map pack: modified versions of the stock maps. Put them in your data folder. You need to run 4.0 as well. Check the sticky threads on the Clanwars forum for stuff like in-game rules.

Roster limit is four, for now. We need small, well-defined clans, and more of them. You can only be in one clan at a time. Maximum of one botname.

Please report your losses.

I think we should all pick one medium to find games; something like a specific teamspeak server to join, or the Renegade chatrooms, or something. I'm open to suggestions about this.

I'm not sure about this month's F2F finals; we'll decide about a week before the month ends. Depends how active things are until then.

Contact myself or hitman for a 2v2 anytime we're both on. Contact me for a 1v1 - including HaTe - so long as you have a warrior account in a clan, that is. Contact me if you have any questions about how to make a clan/use the league/whatever.


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Are the clanwars.cc maps auto-downloaded? Also I would choose another hoster for the maps, they're currently linking my dropbox folder.

Also, cw.cc server 2 isn't listed on GSA, the other two servers are.


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iRANian wrote on Wed, 11 January 2012 00:51

Are the clanwars.cc maps auto-downloaded? Also I would choose another hoster for the maps, they're currently linking my dropbox folder.

Also, cw.cc server 2 isn't listed on GSA, the other two servers are.


I see all 3 servers.

No the maps aren't auto downloaded I dont have website for it atm.


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BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ

Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.


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fixed, uploaded them in mod release section.

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Yeah, I see all three servers on GSA now.

edit: Also when you want to add the maps to the auto-map downloader in the future, you need to use the PackageEditor.exe from the beta 1 server files as the beta 3 one doesn't work.


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