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Re: Looking For Renegade CD [message #461443 is a reply to message #329002] Sun, 08 January 2012 19:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Looking For Renegade CD [message #461588 is a reply to message #461443] Wed, 11 January 2012 17:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sharing CD's IMO legitimate. Sharing serials is not.


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Re: Looking For Renegade CD [message #461598 is a reply to message #329002] Thu, 12 January 2012 01:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Downloading games/products isn't illegal. Sharing serials for those or cracking them is.

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Re: Looking For Renegade CD [message #461606 is a reply to message #461598] Thu, 12 January 2012 03:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Omar007 wrote on Thu, 12 January 2012 09:42

Downloading games/products isn't illegal. Sharing serials for those or cracking them is.

Eh... You might be mixing movies/music with software. In the Netherlands downloading movies or music is legal (but not uploading!), the downloading of software however is illegal if you do not have the required license. If you have a serial you don't always have a license (keygens might generate serials, but do not generate licenses for example).


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Re: Looking For Renegade CD [message #461617 is a reply to message #461606] Thu, 12 January 2012 08:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Thu, 12 January 2012 11:59

Omar007 wrote on Thu, 12 January 2012 09:42

Downloading games/products isn't illegal. Sharing serials for those or cracking them is.

Eh... You might be mixing movies/music with software. In the Netherlands downloading movies or music is legal (but not uploading!), the downloading of software however is illegal if you do not have the required license. If you have a serial you don't always have a license (keygens might generate serials, but do not generate licenses for example).

I'm not. I said pretty much what you said. Downloading isn't illegal in any of the cases. And with sharing serials, I also ment keygens and shit like that Razz

If I where to download a program/game which I don't own myself it's still legal. Basically if you're not using the app if you don't own it you're good.
There is nothing that says you aren't allowed to download it and leave it idle on your PC.


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Re: Looking For Renegade CD [message #461618 is a reply to message #461617] Thu, 12 January 2012 09:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Omar007 wrote on Thu, 12 January 2012 08:47

There is nothing that says you aren't allowed to download it and leave it idle on your PC.


So you can steal, as long as you don't use what you stole for anything.


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Re: Looking For Renegade CD [message #461626 is a reply to message #461617] Thu, 12 January 2012 14:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Omar007 wrote on Thu, 12 January 2012 16:47

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Thu, 12 January 2012 11:59

Omar007 wrote on Thu, 12 January 2012 09:42

Downloading games/products isn't illegal. Sharing serials for those or cracking them is.

Eh... You might be mixing movies/music with software. In the Netherlands downloading movies or music is legal (but not uploading!), the downloading of software however is illegal if you do not have the required license. If you have a serial you don't always have a license (keygens might generate serials, but do not generate licenses for example).

I'm not. I said pretty much what you said. Downloading isn't illegal in any of the cases. And with sharing serials, I also ment keygens and shit like that Razz

If I where to download a program/game which I don't own myself it's still legal. Basically if you're not using the app if you don't own it you're good.
There is nothing that says you aren't allowed to download it and leave it idle on your PC.


Err... There is, at least in the Netherlands. It's called copyright. You are not allowed to copy information unless you have permission by that person to do so. You're probably mistaking because we are allowed to copy art, scientific articles and literature for personal use and study, as these are excluded from the rules around copyright due to a specific law.
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Re: Looking For Renegade CD [message #461629 is a reply to message #461626] Thu, 12 January 2012 15:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The dutch law says nothing about an exception on software and games.
Because I had 2 against me, I searched a bit more; the part where software and games are different is due to an European law that gives them extra protection. It was legal though.

I was wrong that it is (still) legal, although you where wrong about it being part of the dutch law ;P
(or I just really couldn't find it there)


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Re: Looking For Renegade CD [message #461632 is a reply to message #461629] Thu, 12 January 2012 16:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Omar007 wrote on Thu, 12 January 2012 23:52

The dutch law says nothing about an exception on software and games.
Because I had 2 against me, I searched a bit more; the part where software and games are different is due to an European law that gives them extra protection. It was legal though.

I was wrong that it is (still) legal, although you where wrong about it being part of the dutch law ;P
(or I just really couldn't find it there)

You're wrong.
Software has never been legal to "just download" (create/own a copy) without a license.
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auteursrecht


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Re: Looking For Renegade CD [message #461633 is a reply to message #461632] Thu, 12 January 2012 16:27 Go to previous message
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IDK when the European law became active but before that it was.

I remember when there was tapes some radio stations would even broadcast programs Satisfied


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