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| Re: MUDKIPS [message #459367 is a reply to message #459343] |
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| Crimson wrote on Sun, 13 November 2011 05:07 |
| liquidv2 wrote on Sat, 12 November 2011 20:58 |
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I'm sorry you don't like Jarhead. I also don't care. You have acted with absolutely NO maturity or intelligence and therefore your opinions and you as a person get NO respect from me or the rest of the n00bstories staff who shares the same opinion on your childlike behavior.
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a few people were beefing on jarhead, and the only two that defended him were yourself and azazel (though azazel defending anyone is probably a negative)
even spoony said it, and you know his logic goes down like 14 levels
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Hardly anyone here knows Jarhead... most people don't throw out their opinion when they don't know anything about the subject... but there are exceptions to that rule. (looks at EWD)
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Well, I guess we had a miscommunication then. I was not referring to mudkips in particular. I was referring to the fact that it seems that more people get banned here for something that happened on another server/website, than people getting banned for something that actually happened here.
Apparently in mudkips case it did happen all over the place, but at first it did look like he was banned for something that happened op NS.
Something that does not help in the matter is the posts asking for the reason they were banned. This could of course be due the the person being banned being stupid or perhaps the ban reasons not being clear enough in general (particular when you ban for something that happened on a different website/gameserver).
Not everyone makes that link directly, not in the least because they may not know you run both websites.
Perhaps I should have made a different topic about this, to make it clear that I don't care about the mudkips ban in general and more about the general banning principles being applied. Would that help Crimson? I mean, creating a different topic to clarify the principles and perhaps improve them where possible?
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Something I forgot... I find it odd that some people that are hated pretty much throughout the whole of Renegadeforums are not banned and someone that hasn't yet done direct harm to Renegadeforums is banned fast. To me it seems that the priorities for you are at NS. Something I'm OK with and is completely understandable. However I would appreciate it that either spend more time on (moderating) Renegadeforums than you do now. An example is the TT beta 2 topic, it's still not stickied/placed as announcement, while it has been posted more than 2 weeks ago.
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| Re: MUDKIPS [message #459370 is a reply to message #459319] |
Sun, 13 November 2011 07:51 |
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Wow, Crimson finally banned mudkipz. Good ban.
He's never gotten over the whole faildus split, which is why he still hates NS with a passion. If you're reading this mudkipz then I feel sorry for you. You should apologise for the insults you have made and then move on. Or arnt you man enough to do that? Some how I don't think you are.
Crimson you've explained his ban more than enough, more than what he deserves.
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| Re: MUDKIPS [message #459371 is a reply to message #459370] |
Sun, 13 November 2011 08:02 |
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| Azazel wrote on Sun, 13 November 2011 07:51 |
He's never gotten over the whole faildus split, which is why he still hates NS with a passion.
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wow dude, you're retarded. We've told you a 10000 times none of us remotely care about the fucking exodus thing anymore.
My beef is with jarhead, and jarhead only. I was just playing and he banned me for no reason, the faghead.
You are seriously the only one who even brings up the subject, nevermind calls it "faildus". Not even fucking lub2pb bothers with that anymore, grow up.
The good ban here would be to get rid of azazel since he's actually fucking damaged the community.
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| Re: MUDKIPS [message #459372 is a reply to message #459364] |
Sun, 13 November 2011 08:07 |
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C'mon guys you had a great opportunity to build a strong bulletproof case against a powerful mod in a highly ranked position you allege was abusive towards you. And you blew it good.
You should have been patient, persevered silently collecting SS/logs from every incident you allege such abuse happened so you could sell your case when you had so much evidence collected to the public (cos as it stands, a few guys who have a problem with this mod are getting stared @ by the Rene public that has no idea what the hell is going on). Instead, you had your "Rene Spring" and now what? Your original grievances remain unresolved and your alleged claims unproven. This is a textbook example of horrible mismanagement.
Anyone who alleges that a certain mod is giving out bans for getting killed by better players is a very serious allegation. If something likewise were to happen to me, that would be a serious issue for me but I would take my own tried and tested advice (like I have done countless times building cases to demolish all doubt and win a verdict in my favour). I have seen none of that here regarding the mod known as Jarhead; no SS, no logs, no well-worded gigantic posts that uses such SS/log evidence.
Resorting to nasty PM's, flooding the server, ad hominem and generally throwing a one-liner here and there gets you nothing. That's all I have seen in this entire Jarhead business from those who made the allegations. Take a lesson from real life; can you barge into a court and start screaming? EVEN if you are right in your allegations you still have to calm yourself, get a grip, and come back in and present your case with some decorum that will make people want to listen to your case. If the public buys it, you automatically win no matter what the powers-that-be do.
As it stands now, nobody has a clue what you guys are talking about specifically since no evidence is being presented. I have seen abusive mods in the past for no reason and so I think you guys may have a case considering these serious allegations:
| Dave2916 wrote on Sat, 12 November 2011 17:22 |
4. If jarhead doesnt want to get insulted he should be such a piece of shit. Threatening players who kill him too often, threatening fellow mods, banning people simply because he doesnt like them, muting them, kicking them. And when people complain about any of that he bans them too. If he expects to not get insulted when hes being a nazi like that he's even got less braincells than I thought.
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| YesNoMaybe wrote on Sun, 13 November 2011 04:46 |
And that is exactly why, I am so violent about jarhead, and now you. People like you completely fuck up renegade. You've both got this attitude of "LISTEN TO ME OR PAY!!!" and take insult to every little thing, and think everybody is out to get you, and you'll gladly get rid of innocent people to bet set your mind at ease and have your way. People like you are fucking dangerous to renegade because it's power-abusing fucks like you that drive people away from this game.
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But till you have some evidence going, the problems will continue. I know it's against human nature to stay calm under any condition of perceived injustice but sometimes that's just what you gotta do. It works.
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| Re: MUDKIPS [message #459374 is a reply to message #459138] |
Sun, 13 November 2011 08:27 |
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No case will get justice against Jarhead's mistakes - tried and tested many of times. He is as stubborn and ruthless as they come and for that reason he should not be in a position of power. Unfortunately he has been around from pretty much day 1 and people at n00bstories are so far up each others asses they're afraid to say boo to a goose.
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| Re: MUDKIPS [message #459375 is a reply to message #459138] |
Sun, 13 November 2011 08:53 |
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<Jarhead> hey fuck you andrew....
<andr3w282> lol
<Jarhead> you are piss poor example as an adming here
<jimmyny> even tho i dont particually like some of the names people use, its hardly worse than banning people who clearly dont cheat and/or personally attcking people on the forum when the posts they make arnt agreed with
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This was when some of the mods and admins were using nicks, andrew used TUB OF TITS or something. Jarhead said that stuff in a public channel btw, and jimmyny is referring to jarhead harrassing people on the mod forums for disagreeing with him.
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(21:00:00) (phpRenBot) [49/50|33SFPS|City_Flying] 9mm: (75.131.REST OF IP HIDDEN LOL) 26/Apr/08
@n00bsvr01 ¦ Jarhead57: suspicious to say the least 9mm
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Later jarhead found out that 9mm was in fact the mod ilonaus, using an alias. And started insulting him and threatning him in pms.
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(@andr3w282) i almost just quoted that and replied "or be like jarhead and ban with 0 evidence"
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This should be obvious enough
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(grant89uk) jarhead thinks i cheat
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(MUDKIPS)(16:49:48)(@n00bsvr01) UDshadow killed Jarhead57 (Nod Engineer/Nod Light Tank vs GDI Mobius)
(MUDKIPS)(16:50:15)(%Jarhead) !forcerg uds
(MUDKIPS) this guy fucking SUCKS
(MUDKIPS) udshadow can barely play
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(@n00bsvr01) Kytten9 killed Jarhead57 (Nod Sakura/Ramjet Rifle vs GDI Havoc)
(@n00bsvr01) Jarhead57: bitch
(@Cunin) odd
(@Cunin) i would have expected !forcerg 
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(nikki6ixx[AFK]) Cunin
(nikki6ixx[AFK]) Why is Jarhead editing and deleting my posts?
(@Cunin) uh?
(@Cunin) which ones
(nikki6ixx[AFK]) He made a post about some 'Living Will' joke
(nikki6ixx[AFK]) Then I responded with a link to the same joke that he did back in January.
(nikki6ixx[AFK]) And then he edited my post saying that the people were different.
(nikki6ixx[AFK]) SOMEONE EDITED MY FIRST POST.
(nikki6ixx[AFK]) And I called them out on it, and then they deleted the thread
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(17:21:05) (@MUDKIPS) (17:20:45) (@n00bsvr01) jarhead57: now that was suspicious
(17:21:13) (@MUDKIPS) someone should keep track of how often he says that
(17:22:38) (@Cunin) like once every kill?
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(01:09:01) (@andr3w282) grits takes after jarhead
(01:09:18) (@andr3w282) theres a reason u never see me and jarhead talk
(01:09:30) (@andr3w282) hes all GIMME RESPECT AND GROW UP and im all "SUCK A DICK AND LERN2INTERNET"
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(01:10:54) (@daduke) jarhead thinks everyone cheats
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(18:53:05) (@DaN) jarhead is a fucking cock..
(18:53:13) (@Ethenal) why's that 
(18:53:15) (@jason761) ^
(18:53:26) (@Ethenal) I mean I already knew that but what did he do
(18:53:44) (@jason761) forcerg cos dan hs his sbh
(18:53:59) (@DaN) had one of the last havocs, bar dead, headshot his sbh and he's like "the next time i see you, you better be running RG" so i told him RG is useless and just forced me
(18:54:01) (@DaN) PRETTY GOOD
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(23:00:32) (@MUDKIPS) whenever I kill jarhead he says "bs"
(23:00:37) (@MUDKIPS) wont be long before he bans me ffs
(23:01:36) (%osoyonki) he always does with everybody when he gets headshotted
(23:01:41) (%osoyonki) dont worry lol
(23:02:57) (@MUDKIPS) I headshot him all the bloody time
(23:02:59) (@MUDKIPS) he's so easy to hs
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17:42:18) (%bu11c3nts) I killed Jarhead 6 times in a row when he was a havoc
(17:42:21) (%bu11c3nts) he was pissed
(17:44:08) (@AnThRaX) he's a jerk
(17:44:16) (@AnThRaX) he knew it was me once
(17:44:19) (@AnThRaX) on a smurf
(17:44:26) (@AnThRaX) and i killed him and he forcerg'd me anyways
(17:44:29) (@AnThRaX) and pages from IRC
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I frogot he used to threaten Anthrax too, that's FOUR mods lol.
These are just he logs from before I was a mod at ns, nevermind all the logs i have on discussions from the mod channel, or discussions about topics in the mod section.
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| Re: MUDKIPS [message #459376 is a reply to message #459138] |
Sun, 13 November 2011 09:02 |
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who cares.. its common knowledge that most of the mods at noobstories have always been full retard ever since the days of forceRG.
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| Re: MUDKIPS [message #459380 is a reply to message #459379] |
Sun, 13 November 2011 10:45 |
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| TankClash wrote on Sun, 13 November 2011 10:41 |
The people who haven't even heard of him let alone have played with him in-game jump on the "he's a badie admin and sucks i h8 him he r made me mad, bro" wagon.
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who exactly are you referring to with this?
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| Re: MUDKIPS [message #459382 is a reply to message #459359] |
Sun, 13 November 2011 10:56 |
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| YesNoMaybe wrote on Sun, 13 November 2011 04:46 |
1. You are a known liar. (I really don't need to give any examples here, everybody here can recall at least one major situations where you flat out lied about everything)
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Too stupid to even respond to.
| YesNoMaybe wrote on Sun, 13 November 2011 04:46 |
2. You are a known power abuser (the reactions from everybody in this topic say enough about that)
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Ditto.
| YesNoMaybe wrote on Sun, 13 November 2011 04:46 |
3. You are a childish and very low person (fucking up devitto's attempts at starting a savage 2 server, breaking into exodus with old n00bstories passwords)
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LOL... what? Devitto had some of the most popular servers in Savage 2 and he left because the game sucks and may never get patched. S2 fucks up anyone's attempts at running a decent server. I didn't interfere with him at all. And I didn't "break into" your dead-ass "community". I can see how much you guys don't get it by looking at how little activity you get on your forums and Renegade server.
| YesNoMaybe wrote on Sun, 13 November 2011 04:46 |
4. You are irresponsible (shown mainly from your conduct at the n00bparty, but mainly in the way you treat people you don't like, kind of like jarhead does)
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"My conduct at n00bparty"... LOL again. There have been 5 n00bparties - if you're referring to the incident where we trolled you and your buddy who were smurfing and being dicks to your teammates (some of which happened to be us), then we're guilty... heaven help it if people start using the !n00b and !rec commands in Renegade - we're DOOMED!
| YesNoMaybe wrote on Sun, 13 November 2011 04:46 |
In the end, your word means less than nothing to anybody with a bit of sense, since you've proven yourself to be a egocentric, power-abusing dangerous bitch obsessed with fuck up shit for other people (not just in ren) so you can have your way.
Me supposedly spamming these forums is the biggest bullshit reason you could ever come up with since we all know you really don't actually care about these forums, just your reputation, and everybody who even knows me a bit knows I don't spam neutral forums, at most start a controversial topic.
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That's funny, considering your behavior since your ban is completely justifying it and proving me right in doing so. Since you're using other people's names to make accounts, now I can't approve people's requests for accounts for a while, so now if I'm not approving someone who isn't you, they are being denied the service of this website.
| YesNoMaybe wrote on Sun, 13 November 2011 04:46 |
Also, since I used to mod n00btories for like 2 years, I know very very well how to ban evade, and I could do it in an instant, change my IP, change my nick, change my serial, voila. But I really don't care playing there anymore, and I only joined on nicknames insulting to jarhead, on my normal IP since, well, I love insulting him. Especially since he takes being an ex marine so seriously, its a wonderful target to me, especially since to me being a US Marine is an insult in itself haha.
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I know you're just saying that because you're an ignorant European with your media-created bias against Americans but just because our politicians are retarded and our media likes to make us look stupid to further their own political agendas doesn't make the whole country that way. Insulting someone who risked their lives for our country is just about the stupidest thing you've said yet.
| YesNoMaybe wrote on Sun, 13 November 2011 04:46 |
Let me just say this. I fucking love renegade, its a wonderful game. And I wish people to have the best playing experience, and matches unimpeded by faggots who have their own agendas and shit. I can honestly say that when ren is concerned, I just care about justice, cheating faggots getting banned for life, hampering dicks getting removed, and power-abusing game-ruining fucks to get fucked off as well.
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We did that. We removed you (or at least I tried, but rules aren't for you, I guess), and you fall under the category of "faggots who have their own agendas and shit". You shit all over Renegade with your attitude that you can just go about doing anything you want. You had several opportunities to act like an adult and you have failed every single time. You decide it's better just to burn your bridges with the most rude insults that anyone can imagine and blatantly break forum rules over and over.
| YesNoMaybe wrote on Sun, 13 November 2011 04:46 |
And that is exactly why, I am so violent about jarhead, and now you. People like you completely fuck up renegade. You've both got this attitude of "LISTEN TO ME OR PAY!!!" and take insult to every little thing, and think everybody is out to get you, and you'll gladly get rid of innocent people to bet set your mind at ease and have your way. People like you are fucking dangerous to renegade because it's power-abusing fucks like you that drive people away from this game.
You really are an outrageous overweight slag. You should go on a diet and do some fucking cardio instead of fucking about in the ren world where nobody honestly wants you, they only tolerate you, or, when they don't they get banned.
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You don't know the first thing about me as a person. My weight has NO bearing whatsoever on this discussion, the internet, or Renegade. Losing or gaining weight isn't going to change my brain, or my decisions that you're an immature little child. There is NO rational argument that includes such blatant ad hominem insults and you're convincing NO ONE to join your side by doing so.
Did Jarhead ban you for a bad reason? Maybe, but who even cares to look at the evidence at this point? Your disgraceful, immature conduct after the fact just shows to me that you hold no respect for people who shell out money to run a server for years on end, no respect for the people who volunteer their time to help keep the game running smoothly (ironic since you used to be one and you know what a big job it can be), so you were most definitely going to do something to deserve a ban sooner or later (probably sooner) since you have proven you don't care about rules and just do whatever the hell makes you happy at the time.
I'm the bawss.
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| Re: MUDKIPS [message #459383 is a reply to message #459381] |
Sun, 13 November 2011 11:05 |
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| TankClash wrote on Sun, 13 November 2011 10:52 |
Players who haven't even heard of him, obviously...
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| Re: MUDKIPS [message #459394 is a reply to message #459138] |
Sun, 13 November 2011 12:25 |
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Dave has been a member long enough to know better. Also, because of "z0mg taking a screenshot" the action of removing the post became worthless, so it's on to phase 2 of that rule.
I set the ban for a week so he can come back then.
I'm the bawss.
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| Re: MUDKIPS [message #459399 is a reply to message #459138] |
Sun, 13 November 2011 13:59 |
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Lol, I should reinstall Ren and play on NS when Jarhead is on. Wanna bet I'll be banned in a few weeks for stealth seeing cheats?
Don't know anything about him though it seems he is ban happy.
Edit: To admit, a lot of mods on other servers are like that too.
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Sun, 13 November 2011 14:07 |
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So why exactly did Dave get banned, don't the rules say you get warned first for posting on behalf of banned members? Very Spoony-esque banning. Really low, even for a person like you.
When does n00bstories' trolling of the Renegade community stop? We don't need to have the huge amount of fail of the NS forums leaking over to the rest of the Renegade community, thanks! This is the fucking official Renegade forums, NOT the n00bstories forums if you failed to notice that.
Isn't joining the army considered being a huge loser in the USA? Considering a person with such low intelligence as Jarhead managed to be a marine..lol
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| Re: MUDKIPS [message #459403 is a reply to message #459400] |
Sun, 13 November 2011 15:38 |
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| iRANian wrote on Sun, 13 November 2011 14:07 |
So why exactly did Dave get banned, don't the rules say you get warned first for posting on behalf of banned members? Very Spoony-esque banning. Really low, even for a person like you.
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Isn't joining the army considered being a huge loser in the USA? Considering a person with such low intelligence as Jarhead managed to be a marine..lol
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Absolutely not. Our men and women in uniform are among the most honored people in the country.
I'm the bawss.
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| Re: MUDKIPS [message #459404 is a reply to message #459399] |
Sun, 13 November 2011 15:40 |
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| DutchNeon wrote on Sun, 13 November 2011 13:59 |
Lol, I should reinstall Ren and play on NS when Jarhead is on. Wanna bet I'll be banned in a few weeks for stealth seeing cheats?
Don't know anything about him though it seems he is ban happy.
Edit: To admit, a lot of mods on other servers are like that too.
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Jarhead puts in more hours than pretty much all of our other mods and he's usually the most active when the server is most active. As a result, when someone has to be removed, he's more often the one to do it over anyone else. That's why it seems like he's ban-happy. It's plain and simple math.
I'm the bawss.
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| Re: MUDKIPS [message #459408 is a reply to message #459138] |
Sun, 13 November 2011 16:17 |
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Something I agree with is that Jarhead's military service has no place in this discussion.
However the problem lies with his militant approach to a fucking video game. Something that should have been dealt with a very long time ago but has since decayed into a state of disrepair because you will never have the courage to slap his wrist. There is no need for you to even downplay his misconduct, it is blatantly obvious to anyone with half a brain.
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| Re: MUDKIPS [message #459409 is a reply to message #459138] |
Sun, 13 November 2011 16:18 |
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"Posting on behalf of banned users will be considered as bypassing a ban. For doing this, you will be issued a single warning and topic removal. If you do it again, you will be banned for the same duration as the person you posted for."
"These Rules of Conduct have been agreed upon by the administration, and are subject to change at any time. Any changes made or required due to an unanticipated action by a forum member may be acted upon immediately and without warning at the discretion of the Administration."
Learn to read you dumb bitch, I'll point it out for you:
1. You need to change the rules of conduct first. Which you haven't done.
2. Changes that have to be made because of UNANTICIPATED actions can be in effect immediately. Only those.
3. Positng on behalf of a banned user earns you a warning at first, which didn't happen yet.
Considering you don't seem to care a fuck about randomly banning people Spoony-style, why have the rules of conduct in the first place?
Also it's pretty sad you're denying hacking Exodus and stealing Devitto's S2 forum nick or whatever it was.
I still haven't seen any evidence of MUDKIPS UDP flooding n00bstories server, but please show me the packet logs.
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